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Also has anyone checked out these ANSI terminals for better "graphics" and faster baud/character comms rates!

http://ewen.mcneill.gen.nz/programs/cpc/ansiterm/

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Bbs_terminal
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Hey thanks for trying! I've had a few users login and register accounts, but they may be connecting from PCs. Can you *not* specify a username, as then in should just sign you up for an account on login or ask if you want to view as "guest".


So just "telnet amstrad.simulant.uk 464" should do it...


I hope you can get in!! :)


Nop. It refuses my connection. I'm trying to connect from my MacBook Pro, but that shouldn't be the problem.

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I think most web sites now days do not allow telnet as there was a security issue (if i remember about 3-4 years ago).

I would ping the web site first to see if it responds meaning it is available otherwise the web site is no longer there.

If pings says the web site is there and the telnet request fails then that web site may have telnet disabled.

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Nop. It refuses my connection. I'm trying to connect from my MacBook Pro, but that shouldn't be the problem.

Hi thanks this is why more testing is needed before we are ready!! I've restarted the BBS as it may just be our firewall blocking your IP if you can try again?

Thanks again!

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I think most web sites now days do not allow telnet as there was a security issue (if i remember about 3-4 years ago).

I would ping the web site first to see if it responds meaning it is available otherwise the web site is no longer there.

If pings says the web site is there and the telnet request fails then that web site may have telnet disabled.

rpalmer

Hi you're right that telnet isn't encrypted so it is not as secure. That is why I've also setup ssh too (and rlogin to boot just cos!! haha) but yes it should be working as I've telnetted in from a few wifi cafes and things like that while testing.

The url is both for the website and for the BBS, but http/https use different ports, so they are nothing to do with the actual BBS telnet connection on port 464. This isn't blocked or restricted, other than that our server firewall may block an ip if it looks suspicious or tries to get access too much with different usernames or wrong credentials etc.

I think we're just having a few firewall issues currently blocking some IPs or repeated attempts - so I'll look at this and hopefully get it resolved asap. But you *can* telnet in (at least after I reboot the BBS server fresh again) and it should work. I've left telnet there as an option despite lack of encryption just as it is the "original" way to access BBSes and is still safe enough to connect with just to take a look around as a guest, or if you're stuck on older retro hardware that can't ssh in - at least you can then still get access.

Let's hope with a bit more testing and more users connecting I can narrow down the problems and get any connection issues fixed! I'm hoping the BBS will allow us all to use our old Amstrads for stuff like email and upload/downloading files directly to the internet which is pretty cool :)
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tried telnet and it works like a charm.
I just have some trouble with extended chars whereas I'm using a cygwin term.


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tried telnet and it works like a charm.
I just have some trouble with extended chars whereas I'm using a cygwin term.


see attachment...

Hey thanks for testing it out! That is completely awesome that you were able to telnet in ok.  Let's talk about CPCs!! haha. For your extended characters you can try disabling ANSI by pressing D on the main menu, followed by T to set your terminal display type on the BBS. Best of luck and let me know how things go or if I need to adjust anything my end :)

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Maybe it'd be fun to incorporate it into a page somewhere on the wiki? :)

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Maybe it'd be fun to incorporate it into a page somewhere on the wiki? :)

Hey that would be an awesome idea. Is there anyway to embed this link into the wiki so it shows up correctly and lets users connect:

http://embed.ftelnet.ca/?Hostname=amstrad.simulant.uk&Port=464&Proxy=proxy-us-ga.ftelnet.ca&ProxyPort=1123&ProxyPortSecure=11235&AutoConnect=false&ConnectionType=telnet&Emulation=ansi-bbs&TopButtons=true&VirtualKeyboard=on

 :)
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Unfortunately, for security reasons, Mediawiki (the platform behind the wiki) won't let you load/run pages with code. But we could have a totally separate page perhaps?

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Managed to connect successfully via telnet as guest using the iterminal app on my phone.


One of my pending home projects is to turn my cpc into a linux terminal using rs232 and then connect through one of my linux machines.
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One of my pending home projects is to turn my cpc into a linux terminal using rs232 and then connect through one of my linux machines.


I did that with M4WiFi and Duke's client.
Connected successfully to all my PC's, RPis even on my Amiga.
The only thing you don't get is to run programs as it doesn't support the output.
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I did that with M4WiFi and Duke's client.
Connected successfully to all my PC's, RPis even on my Amiga.
The only thing you don't get is to run programs as it doesn't support the output.
Do you know where Duke's telnet client is available for download? It no longer seems to be on Github or in the old forum links, I wonder if he stopped development or no longer supports it?

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You should be able to grab it from this post: http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/applications/telnet-client-for-cpc/msg157981/#msg157981


I just checked to be sure it was still hosted on spinpoint.org, and it worked fine for me. It's also directly attached to that post so you can grab it there.

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Do you know where Duke's telnet client is available for download? It no longer seems to be on Github or in the old forum links, I wonder if he stopped development or no longer supports it?


Yeap, if you didn't got it already please tell again so I can upload it for you.
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Do you know where Duke's telnet client is available for download? It no longer seems to be on Github or in the old forum links, I wonder if he stopped development or no longer supports it?
It's still in the thread with the telnet client. I haven't uploaded the source code for the client yet as I wanted to clean it up & fix some stuff first. But if someone is eager to improve on it, pm me and I'll send the source code. Got caught up with a M7 project, cant let go atm :)