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General Category => Amstrad CPC hardware => Topic started by: XeNoMoRPH on 21:58, 17 March 18

Title: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 21:58, 17 March 18
It seems that an interesting project for Amstrad is being developed. Something that already exists in Spectrum and such a good result gave the game The Sword of Ianna:

(http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/download/file.php?id=5069)

source: http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=6823 (http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=6823)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: tjohnson on 22:43, 17 March 18
Please excuse me for my ignorance, but what is it???
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 23:07, 17 March 18
look this video it's from Spectrum .. but .. it will be the same on Amstrad i think  ;)

https://youtu.be/C_DT9LF78NQ (https://youtu.be/oXZHUCq1k7w)

https://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/zx-dandanator-mini-2.1-red-edition-fully-assembled-for-zx-spectrum-16k-~~-48k-~~-48k%2B~~-128k%2B-30560 (https://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/zx-dandanator-mini-2.1-red-edition-fully-assembled-for-zx-spectrum-16k-~~-48k-~~-48k%2B~~-128k%2B-30560)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 00:04, 18 March 18
That's nothing than a copy of the MegaFlash from Bryce. The same SST 39SF040 chip, so 512 KB Flash, that's it. And if you need a nice menu-system for it... paint it!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 09:53, 18 March 18
I don’t know if you could bankswitch with the megaflash.


The idea is to have a game cartridge where you can have access to all 512kb, and the ability to save games to the eeprom chip.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 10:11, 18 March 18
Yeah, it appears to be a bit more advanced in function, though whether it'll keep that functionality on the CPC remains to be seen I guess?


Any more info?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 13:09, 18 March 18
Oh, and the pcb is designed so it fits inside a standard electronics plastic case like the BB-6 if I remember it right.


So it makes affordable to publish games in cartridge format, as the pcb and components are cheap, and you don’t have to manufacture plastic cases.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 20:24, 18 March 18
I don’t know if you could bankswitch with the megaflash.
The idea is to have a game cartridge where you can have access to all 512kb, and the ability to save games to the eeprom chip.

Bankswitch:
LD BC,&DF00 + ROM-Number (0...31)

To write a "cartridge" use ROManager or the source I released.

There is no difference. The spectrum only has some menu, but that's it.  :) :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 21:18, 18 March 18
Well, didn't knew that about the megaflash, thanks!


I soldered myself the ZX Spectrum version, found the plastic case readily available in my favourite electronics shop and with a little work got a nice bankswitched programmable cartridge where I put The Sword of Ianna.


Everything reasonably cheap.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:14, 18 March 18
There is no difference. The spectrum only has some menu, but that's it.  :) :)


I beg to differ, but I guess you know exactly how it works already.  :D  I'm still figuring it out
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 17:45, 19 March 18
The main "difference" seems to be the menu system. However I can only talk about what I see from the PCB and video.  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Bryce on 11:33, 20 April 18
First I've heard about this. Although it uses a similar Flash chip and most likely is just a MegaFlash type of ROMBoard, the big difference here is the CH340 which means that the data / games are loaded via USB instead of via the CPC. So you could see it as a sort of mix between the MegaFlash and the C4CPC.

Bryce.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: khaz on 21:23, 04 May 18
So basically a cartridge slot for the CPC? That's super cool if so.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 23:34, 06 May 18
https://youtu.be/4eqxNa8eXUA
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 22:36, 07 May 18
https://youtu.be/RhJCPF1BEFc
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 11:07, 25 May 18
Some progress in the project.


- Now loads compressed games from memory, any game in SNA format
- USB transfer and memory update work so content can be updated from the PC/MAC
- USB port is now bidirectional
- Minor changes in hw (basically adding some buttons and moving around things)
- Board is now compatible with "ZX Dandanator Retroworks" case (an under 2€ ABS case)


PC/MAC tool adaptation from the current ZX Romset creator is in progress. You just drop games there and transfer via USB to the CPC Dandanator, all-in-one tool.
Component pricing fluctuates, but I believe it will amount under 10€, pcb/case included. This is for an unassembled board.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: khaz on 12:59, 25 May 18
- Board is now compatible with "ZX Dandanator Retroworks" case (an under 2€ ABS case)

Cool! Do you have pics of the case?
I remember someone here mentioning that the edge male connectors were somewhat difficult to source. Your first PCB picture is of a male connector, while on the videos you have soldered a female connector. Which is meant as the final design/product? I believe having cartridges as Male and using an extra Female/Female adapter to connect to the computer would be the cheaper and more interesting option for the end user.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 13:56, 25 May 18
Go Ahead !!! Dandare !!!  8) 8)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: roudoudou on 15:42, 25 May 18
Some progress in the project.
- Now loads compressed games from memory, any game in SNA format


Which version of SNA supported? v2? v3?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:15, 25 May 18
Cool! Do you have pics of the case?
I remember someone here mentioning that the edge male connectors were somewhat difficult to source. Your first PCB picture is of a male connector, while on the videos you have soldered a female connector. Which is meant as the final design/product? I believe having cartridges as Male and using an extra Female/Female adapter to connect to the computer would be the cheaper and more interesting option for the end user.
Male edge is simply a pcb board, no need to add any other component. The female connector goes soldered to what you've seen. Although what you say about the F-F adaptor is true, the cartridge will be used for game distribution (starting by 4Mhz with some incredible games of theirs coming) so we're aiming at a compact approach.
Case is Supertronic PP6N, custom machined from factory.  --> https://www.tme.eu/es/details/pp6n/carcasas-universales/supertronic/pp6-n/



Which version of SNA supported? v2? v3?

Both
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:24, 25 May 18
Although I'll publish all details, code, schematics as "public domain" once I put it all together, here are some technical details


- board can map up to two simultaneous slots of 16k anywhere in the memory (16k aligned)
- It does not use IO ports, but OPCode traps and bushacking for communication
- It does not interfere nor changes the rom settings (rom configuration and upper rom mapping). Instead it "overlays" when requested.
- USB is bitbanged and uses a serial USB chip, ch340g, to do the hard USB communication part.
- Actions may be delayed until an optrap. This means you can send a command, do whatever you want and the mapping will only happen when an specific opcode is issued
- All logic is done in VHDL for a XC9572xl, 44 pins. A lot of Z80 code is also needed for all to work.
- No CPC has been damaged or harmed during the tests  :laugh:

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: khaz on 18:00, 25 May 18
Male edge is simply a pcb board, no need to add any other component. The female connector goes soldered to what you've seen. Although what you say about the F-F adaptor is true, the cartridge will be used for game distribution (starting by 4Mhz with some incredible games of theirs coming) so we're aiming at a compact approach.
Case is Supertronic PP6N, custom machined from factory.  --> https://www.tme.eu/es/details/pp6n/carcasas-universales/supertronic/pp6-n/

Thanks, that's a pretty cool case!

I get the compact approach, but I believe people will buy more than one cartridge, and on your side it would be easier to make a few adapters and streamline the cartridge manufacturing process to a PCB in a shell. As you want to open source the whole project for other people to use it, It would be beneficial for them too, people wanting to make cartridges only needing to make a PCB.

An adapter would also have the added benefit of being able to be used as a pass-through, with an exposed edge connector at the back so that conventional expansions can be kept plugged in the computer. Another benefit is that it would mean the cartridge would fit vertically, for an easier access, less depth space needed, and a constant display of its label.

But I get the simple approach of a cartridge that is simply plug-and-play on a naked CPC. It's certainly a worthy approach. I just fear it may be "too" simple and end up annoying people who would need to constantly disconnect their expansions, or have to reach blindly behind the computer to pug the cartridge. The current scene is one of enthusiasts, and I suspect most have extra stuff plugged to their computer at all times, and none would be deterred by having to use an extra adapter.

Sorry, just resting my case (eh) as it's something I gave a bit of a thought some time ago when I learned about Lower ROM overwrite.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 23:30, 25 May 18
Little video showing SNA loading of 7 different games. No menu yet!


https://youtu.be/e36xb0Pwqmc
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:39, 26 May 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Thanks for the good work.


Are there 3D Printer files for the Box to suit CPC Dandanator Mini and The ZX Dandanator Please


I am unable to find these boxes (PP6n)over here in Australia.


Thanks    Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 06:10, 26 May 18

I have found some boxes on ebay, ordered 2


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/302742232269 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/302742232269)

Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 12:58, 28 May 18
I have found some boxes on ebay, ordered 2


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/302742232269 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/302742232269)

Ray


Hi Ray, I'm afraid those are not the boxes, but they may work with some hot glue :).


Anyway, I'm confident there will be 3D models available for printing a custom box. I'll keep you all posted.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 12:59, 28 May 18
...
But I get the simple approach of a cartridge that is simply plug-and-play on a naked CPC. It's certainly a worthy approach. I just fear it may be "too" simple and end up annoying people who would need to constantly disconnect their expansions, or have to reach blindly behind the computer to pug the cartridge....


I'll see if I can come up with something. Thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: edd on 12:14, 30 May 18
it seems interresting, I'm looking for a "ramcard" (to use Parados, etc.), will it do the job?Whee can I buy it? (price?)Thank you.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:34, 30 May 18
it seems interresting, I'm looking for a "ramcard" (to use Parados, etc.), will it do the job?Whee can I buy it? (price?)Thank you.
I'm afraid this card has no extra RAM. However, parados is a AMSDOS replacement ROM. Could you be looking for a "rombox" instead of a "ramcard"?. There are many good projects for romboxes out there.
This card is not finished yet, I expect some online retro-shops will build and sell them once is ready, most likely this fall.


Cheers.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 13:38, 02 June 18
Hi All


I was wondering if Parados can be used as a stand alone file ? Not just a rom
Or if somebody can convert ??
It may be able to work with the CPC Dandanator ?? (soon)


Thanks
Ray

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 19:44, 03 June 18
I don't believe it is useful to run parados as a standalone file. However. Parados could work as a hi rom in the dandanator as it features an auto rom replacement function.
However, as I wrote a couple of post above, a Rombox seems to be what you're looking for since Dandanator is somehow limited for this purpose.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 02:17, 04 June 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Ok Thanks.
I was just looking for options for the Dandanator that may work.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 14:26, 14 June 18
I believe CPC Dandanator is ready for prime time now  :D .
release 1.0 will be GM in short including the following:


- Runs on 6128/464/664/Plus series (not tested in other hw so far). 64K computers will disable 128k games automatically in the menu
- Loads 64/128k compressed games from a a menu in 1 to 3 seconds, depending on compression and size.
- Includes a CPC testing rom that can be booted without no RAM/Keyboard intervention.
- Updates itself from USB.
- All menu composing/transferring is fully automated in a multi-language PC software (GUI)
- Can be deactivated without unplugging from the CPC
- Includes a reset button
- Zero configuration, just plug & play.
- fits nicely in a PP6N plastic case
- components, including case, under 10€. Targeting at around 20€ Recommended selling price.
- Public Domain, open source, open hardware, no licensing whatsoever. Do whatever you want with it or parts of it.




Game menu:
(https://i.imgur.com/yNGaRdUl.jpg)




PC Tool for importing games and transferring by USB (Java 8 based, runs on Win/Mac/Linux)


(https://i.imgur.com/P2YKm16l.png)




I'll be posting all project details after summer. I'll probably organize a small batch as well and contact retroshop.pt and other HW sellers that showed interest in selling these.
Remember, it's a public domain project. Anyone can make/sell their own boards. No need to even tell me about it.


Credits: Java program by overCLK, parts of Z80 code by Mad3001, Zx7 compressor by Einar Saukas, Logo by Pagantipaco, Test Rom by McLeod.


PD: We have a ton of new features in the pipeline for next releases. ;)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 15:02, 14 June 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Well done.


Thanks
Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: johnlobo on 15:03, 14 June 18
wow, looks great...  willing to have one.


Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 16:33, 14 June 18
Yup, looks great! Hope we get to see it soon...


Just one small remark regarding the menu - it'd probably be more practical if it was in mode 2. Scrolling through a list can be a pain...


Also, is the trainer/poke function of the ZX version gone?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 17:07, 14 June 18
Nice menu, nice specs. Great work!  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 11:01, 15 June 18
Thank you all for your comments  :D


...Just one small remark regarding the menu - it'd probably be more practical if it was in mode 2. Scrolling through a list can be a pain...
Also, is the trainer/poke function of the ZX version gone?


The board fits around 14-18 games, so only two pages of games are shown (10 games max each). You can change page with the space bar or with left/right cursor or joystick.


trainers/pokes are coming. They're simply not implemented yet :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 11:03, 15 June 18
1 - oh, fine then. But I do love the mode 2 font :D


2 - oooh nice!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 09:11, 08 August 18
I see it's now on sale, but only on the spanish forum (apologies, just saw the tweet last night and don't have the URL)?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 10:24, 08 August 18
I see it's now on sale, but only on the spanish forum (apologies, just saw the tweet last night and don't have the URL)?
Hi, that's correct. I organized what I thought it was going to be a small batch for the local Amstrad users, 50 units.
So far there are 120 units reserved and I'm afraid I can't build more in this first batch.
I don't know at the moment if I'm going for a second batch anytime soon, but I'm putting together all documentation to make the project public domain. Also, I'll send all specs to Ricardo, at retroshop.pt so he can produce and sell the CPC dandanatos. He is already selling the ZX Dandanators and has shown interest in the CPC ones.


As a quick overview. Pokes are already there. I have asked permission to Richard, author of the winape emulator to integrate his poke database as well. Also, board is designed to fit into a commercially available ABS box, the Supertronic PP6N. This first batch will include the box, machined with the necessary holes from factory.
RetroVirtualMachine V2 and Arnold will emulate the CPC Dandanator.
4Mhz, Spanish CPC developer group, has adopted the CPC dandanator as its distribution format. All new games will be physically sold in a cartridge. Among other things, this enables their games to run in 464 computers, not only 6128.
USB is used for changing the contents of the cartridge.


First batch is going to be delivered by late September, I hope, assembled and in the plastic box. Price is 20€ + p&p.


Some pictures:


the cartridge itself in its box:


(https://i.imgur.com/xLsW2BGl.jpg)


RetroVirtualMachine v2 (internal beta) emulating the CPC Dandanator:


(https://i.imgur.com/vjJnm1tl.png)


The romset creator:


(https://i.imgur.com/dxhKsbyl.png)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 13:02, 08 August 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


YES


Thanks    Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 18:05, 08 August 18
Ah darn, those lucky Spaniards...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: deepfb on 23:09, 24 September 18
Dandare gave me a pair of prototype boards, and thanks to him, I have managed to make them work :D


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1942/43981726195_90a7d0462d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1vQU4)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1945/43981726005_4c048250f5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a1vQQM)

I believe it is a great solution to market new software developtments -taking into account that it is getting hard to find disks reliable enough to distribute any program on them.

Btw, the RAM test program included is very useful to diagnose broken memory ICs!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 04:54, 25 September 18
Hi deepfb


Do you have a link to the Docs (English) Please for the CPC Dandanator.


Thanks    Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: deepfb on 11:58, 25 September 18
Do you have a link to the Docs (English) Please for the CPC Dandanator.

I am sorry, Dandare has not yet published the documentation for it. But take it for granted that you will have a proper manual & schematics once it is ready to use!

They are still updating the software & functionalities of the Spectrum version, even when they launched that device and published the first schematics two years ago :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 12:15, 25 September 18
Hi Jamie


OK Thanks


Ray

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: LambdaMikel on 17:23, 25 September 18
Is it still only for folks in Spain?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:54, 26 September 18
@LambdaMikel (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2172)


Contact DanDare Via Pm


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:40, 26 September 18
Hi, I'm afraid the current batch is sold out. I never imposed a nationality limitation on the list, but it was already sold out in five hours, so almost all of them will be shipped within Spain.


Nevertheless, I already sent the schematics and files to Retroshop.pt and Ricardo is building a test batch, so he may put them for sale soon. Bear in mind that this is a Public Domain project. All schematics and files will be published very soon and anyone can do with them whatever he/she likes. No limitations, no licenses... nothing.


With the ZX Dandanator for spectrum I did the same thing and many people have built their own boards in forums, others are selling them on eBay or SellMyRetro.... same thing here.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:12, 04 October 18
Thanks to the magnificent work of overCLK and the help from Habisoft, the CPC Dandanator now supports .CDT files. It's still in beta and not all of them work, but a good set of them are working fine.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 22:37, 04 October 18
This is exciting news!


Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 00:33, 14 November 18
And now... it also reads DSK files. (still in beta though).
Thanks again to overCLK.




Dandanator CPC cartridges ready to start shipping in two-three weeks!!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 08:38, 14 November 18
And now... it also reads DSK files. (still in beta though).
Thanks again to overCLK.




Dandanator CPC cartridges ready to start shipping in two-three weeks!!
Good news  :laugh:
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 10:03, 14 November 18
Has a price been mentioned?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 10:51, 14 November 18
@Gryzor (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1)


25.00 Euro Plus Postage


Over on VA-De-Retro.

Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 10:54, 14 November 18
Oh that's cool :)


Tried googling for VA-De-Retro and I got this:



Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 11:04, 14 November 18
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D7142%26start%3D20&prev=search




Page 1 for price. page 18 for last message.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 11:07, 14 November 18
Thanks for the pointers :) I see people are already buying there...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 13:13, 14 November 18
Hi,
Some information about the current batch run at VadeRetro, Retrowiki, ZonadePruebas and Amstrad.es



Back in August, I opened a list for people interested in the CPC Dandanator. I originally intended for a limited, local 50-unit run, but it went up to 150.
Now the boards are assembled and the cases are in production and expected to arrive in less than 3 weeks.
Therefore I'm collecting payments and shipping info for the people in the list.


The price for the cased cartridge is 25€ + p&p
Although all the units are "sold-out" already, I ordered a few spares and, sometimes, a few people in the list don't go ahead with the purchase. So I may have some units available after I finish with this batch.


I'm taking into account all people that are showing interest and keeping them in a "wait list". I can't guarantee that everybody there will get a unit, but I'll keep you posted.


Thanks for your interest in the project
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 13:41, 14 November 18
Darn I hope there's juuuust one left for me... :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: villain on 20:28, 15 November 18
I'm taking into account all people that are showing interest and keeping them in a "wait list". I can't guarantee that everybody there will get a unit, but I'll keep you posted.

I would like to be part of your list.  8)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: DanyPPC on 22:28, 15 November 18
So this card support DSK, CDT, CRT and SNA files ?
For a max of 14 - 18 games on memory.
Is it right ?
How could be it connected to an Amstrad PLUS ?


Thanks for the answers.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:29, 15 November 18
Thanks for your interest. I'll put you in the waiting list.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:34, 15 November 18
So this card support DSK, CDT, CRT and SNA files ?
For a max of 14 - 18 games on memory.
Is it right ?
How could be it connected to an Amstrad PLUS ?


Thanks for the answers.


Hi, It supports SNA, MOST of the CDT (no multi load) and several DSK (still in alpha/beta). Again no multi loads.


The software in the card itself only support Snapshots, but the PC Tool to create the game compilations converts automatically those CDTs and DSKs.
This is transparent for the user, you just drop the file and there it goes (well, dsk/cdt takes a bit more to import).


Internal memory is 512kb but all games are ZX7 compressed, also in a transparent way, so 10-15, even 20 is a good guess, depending on what games you put inside.


It can be connected to an Amstrad+ using a standard Centronics-edge converter. It's tested on both 464+ and 6128+.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: DanyPPC on 09:10, 16 November 18
Many thanks for the exhaustive explanation.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: kawickboy on 12:27, 16 November 18
Could you add me to the list please ?
thanks
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 15:16, 16 November 18
Ist there a way to get one batch of the Dandanator ROMs? Could they be posted here? Why?

Well, I'm just curious if they could be installed into an X-MEM or MegaFlash - just for fun.  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: ukmarkh on 17:08, 16 November 18
Hi,
Some information about the current batch run at VadeRetro, Retrowiki, ZonadePruebas and Amstrad.es



Back in August, I opened a list for people interested in the CPC Dandanator. I originally intended for a limited, local 50-unit run, but it went up to 150.
Now the boards are assembled and the cases are in production and expected to arrive in less than 3 weeks.
Therefore I'm collecting payments and shipping info for the people in the list.


The price for the cased cartridge is 25€ + p&p
Although all the units are "sold-out" already, I ordered a few spares and, sometimes, a few people in the list don't go ahead with the purchase. So I may have some units available after I finish with this batch.


I'm taking into account all people that are showing interest and keeping them in a "wait list". I can't guarantee that everybody there will get a unit, but I'll keep you posted.


Thanks for your interest in the project


Praying that I'm on this list?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:03, 16 November 18
Ist there a way to geht one batch of the Dandanator ROMs? Could they be posted here? Why?


Well, I'm just curious if they could be installed into an X-MEM or MegaFlash - just for fun.  :)


That will not work.
Dandanator uses Z80 opcode traps as commands whereas MegaFlash/X-mem use IO ports.


PS: One could think of "translating' the commands, but Dandanator implements a "delayed-action" directive that is not available (and can't be simulated or emulated) on the other devices.
Try and imagine this situation:
On a Megaflash, you send a command to change page and it changes immediately.
On a Dandanator, you could do that as well, but you can also send a command to change a page, lock further changes and or disable the USB port and ask the board not to execute the command right away, but after you issue a "RET" command.
This is very useful for loading snapshots, so you can leave all registers as they are supposed to be and then RET to the game --> all pending commands are executed then.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:23, 16 November 18

Praying that I'm on this list?


I'm still to check the waiting list.
This is what I intent to do.


1) Distribute all dandanators to people that made a reservation.
2) Should some units remain, I'll check all forums/facebook/email/twitter.... for people that showed interest after the list was full.
3) I'll start contacting them in the same order they showed interest..
4) When I run out of units, I'll stop the process and notify it on all forums.


I think this is a fair system for all people interested.


Let me take this opportunity to thank you all for your interest in the project and to remind you that this is a absolutely free - Public Domain project with no license at all. So anyone can build their units, sell them, modify them, even put his name on the board if that makes him happy.
In a few weeks I'll post the code/schematics and definitions to build CPC Dandanators at http://www.dandare.es

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: remax on 21:40, 16 November 18
Thanks for your interest. I'll put you in the waiting list.
Me too please :)

Envoyé de mon SM-G930F en utilisant Tapatalk

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 10:33, 19 November 18
No step 5: order a new batch? :D


Some people are going to party over eBay...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Stwert on 13:57, 19 November 18
I probably don’t need one of these, but, coooool I want one.


Oh, I suppose that means I do need one then :D
Snapping one of these up as soon as they go on sale somewhere, or a new waiting list is created.


Great work.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 16:01, 19 November 18
No step 5: order a new batch? :D


Some people are going to party over eBay...


I won't likely make another batch personally, but since this is a Public Domain, anyone can make one.
I'd be very sad if this project is re-sold at a higher price. The price I put, 25€ including machined ABS case, is a fair one (no profit, though).


I'm already talking to some retro-stores so they can produce and sell CPC Dandanators at a just price. I have a very good experience with retroshop.pt selling ZX Dandanators at 20€, and now manuferhi.com as well for the same price (Some individuals at SellMyRetro a well). Also, a lot of forum members have made their own batches in several countries, so now, almost 2.000 ZX Dandanators are out there at their right price.


Please, DO NOT PAY HIGHER PRICES for this board, make your own forum-based batches! That's the idea behind this whole project.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 16:53, 19 November 18
Here's hoping someone with the skills takes it up :)


Also, I wouldn't mind paying a fair premium over its cost.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.0 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 19:28, 09 December 18
(https://i.imgur.com/23Z1PXJl.jpg)
Quote
Thanks to the MojonTwins, all CPC Dandanator will be Preloaded with the collection of their games for CPC
(https://i.ibb.co/khgh1hK/photo-2018-12-07-00-05-41.jpg)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 13:40, 11 December 18
That is sweet indeed - something to play out of the box :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 21:06, 11 December 18
Do we have a link to a detailed manual? (In English).  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 13:34, 13 December 18
No manual yet. But I'll put it up soon. :)
Programming & Technical manual is already done and sent to some interested parties (mainly emulator developers)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 17:15, 13 December 18
No manual yet. But I'll put it up soon. :)
Programming & Technical manual is already done and sent to some interested parties (mainly emulator developers)
Any link for this?

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:00, 17 December 18
Any link for this?


Here is the PDF Doc I have sent to CPC and Emulator developers.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 20:08, 17 December 18
https://youtu.be/zcQaz5RLalU
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 22:26, 17 December 18

Here is the PDF Doc I have sent to CPC and Emulator developers.


Thank you very much!  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:43, 18 December 18
Hi, 136 Dandanators are already delivered, sent or about to be sent within one day.


The remaining 14 will be held for the people who reserved them until this weekend. (They are not paid nor confirmed)
Afterwards they will be freed and made available for those in the waiting list.


here is the list of unconfirmed units so far:


Vdr : Va-de-retro.com
RW : Retrowiki.es
amstrad.es: idem.


 - Cyril61 (RW)
 - jepifidel (RW)
 - DaviXD (RW)
 - Turb (VdR)
 - evas2 (VdR)
 - Vakapp (RW)
 - drachco (RW)
 - Muack (amstrad.es)



Total: 8 units
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 00:14, 19 December 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Thanks for all the effort that you have been involved in to get these out to the people.
I have 2 coming - Yeaaaah


Polite request :-  the Dandanator Jar file for the CPC and some English Documents Please


Thanks.   Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 14:34, 19 December 18
Hopefully I'll put the manual and the software online during the Holidays.



Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Fedeo on 17:00, 19 December 18
Hello,I´m interested in getting one. Too late?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 20:08, 19 December 18
Hello,I´m interested in getting one. Too late?


I'm afraid so.
I'll put you in the waiting list just in case...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 04:00, 20 December 18
After a lot of digging, this is the status of the waiting list:



CPCWIKI - Gryzor - 8-Ago
Amstrad.es - AragOn - 11-Sept
RW - vicioushex - 15-Sept
Amstrad.es - DrLivingstone -15-Sept
Amstrad.es - Spiderman2099 - 15-Sept
Amstrad.es - Pacomix - 16-Sept
CPCWIKI - LambdaMikel - 25-Sept
Amstrad.es - Nirvanero81 (2 dandanators)- 25-Sept
VDR - bedbat - 26-Sept
Amstrad.es - Kasty - 26-Sept
Amstrad.es - Pabloingreece - 26-Sept
VDR - drivers - 11-Oct
VDR - jacaba - 11-Oct
VDR - Antonio5988 - 1-Nov
Amstrad.es - Franky52 - 13-Nov
CPCWIKI - villain - 14-Nov
CPCWIKI - robbarton - 14-Nov (PM)
RW - tera00 - 14-Nov
Amstrad.es - adolfo.pa - 14-Nov
CPCWIKI - SOS - 15-Nov (PM)
CPCWIKI - kawickboy - 16-Nov
CPCWIKI - Gunhed - 16-Nov
CPCWIKI - ukmarkh - 16-Nov
CPCWIKI -remax - 16-Nov
CPCWIKI - gros_minet - 18-Nov (PM)
VDR - duca750 - 18-Nov
CPCWIKI - Stwert - 19-Nov
VDR - Rebobinando - 26-Nov
RW - metsamies - 12-Dic
RW - bruce101 - 15-Dic
RW - VickTOS - 16-Dic
CPCWIKI - Fedeo - 18-Dic
VDR - kapi21 - 18-Dic
RW - Bruce101 (+1) - 19-Dic
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 11:06, 21 December 18
Since Gryzor is the first person in the waiting list, I’ve already sent him a cartridge. I hope you enjoy it!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:54, 21 December 18

.
.
CPC Dandanator software and user manual already available at http://www.dandare.es (http://www.dandare.es)  :D


(Spanish version, use google translator  ::) . English version coming soon  ;D
.
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Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 00:33, 22 December 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Here is a quick (A Bit Rough) English translation.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 00:49, 22 December 18
Thanks Audronic.
The actual manual is a bit deeper in the website : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdandare.es%2FProyectos_Dandare%2FManual_CPCDDTRMini.html
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:55, 22 December 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Oops. 


Thanks for the link.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: deepfb on 13:34, 22 December 18
We had a meeting in Madrid last weekend: Syx came from Brasil and 6128 from León to show us a new game they are developing, and Dandare gave out the Dandanator among the users that came to cpcmaníaco's home to pick their unit.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/31416120907_2aa5a7cd5b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PS8Qe2)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4883/45632372524_25f287f990.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cwnQxw)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4885/32483420768_94899e2c44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rus2hL)
We have a mailing list to call for these meetings. Please let us know if you want to be included! -even if you are not in Madrid: Robcfg lives in Sweden, Joseman in Galicia and Jevicac is located in Canary Islands, and all of them receive messages from the list so they can arrange their trips to Madrid the weekend we have a meeting :-) It is preferable to understand spanish to be in the list because we use to chat about other issues (we use it as a network to buy, order, sell and offer things, mainly; i.e. if I see somebody is selling Commodore games in Galicia and I want them, I can ask someone from there who is in the list to buy them for me).
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: deepfb on 23:10, 22 December 18
Does the CPC Dandanator work on a Kc Compact? Yes, it does:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4888/32551402998_0c7869a91f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RAss3b)

Is this the beginning of a new life for these computers? :D
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 00:18, 23 December 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Hi Dan

Is there a Rom Generator for the CPC Dandanator ?
Do you have a link Please.

Or will the ZX Version work ?

Seasons Greetings

Thanks.  Ray

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 00:44, 23 December 18
Hi Ray. Yes, there is a Romset generator & transfer tool, but the Zx one will not work
Just go here http://dandare.es/Proyectos_Dandare/Descargas.html (http://dandare.es/Proyectos_Dandare/Descargas.html)
Scroll down and select the first link under the CPC Dandanator logo.



Hi Dan Is
there a Rom Generator for the CPC Dandanator ?Do you have a link Please.Or will the ZX Version work ?Seasons GreetingsThanks.  Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:39, 23 December 18
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Thanks I missed it.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 13:29, 24 December 18

After the waiting period for the people in the reserve list to claim a dandanator CPC, there are six units that go to the people on the waiting list.:

 - Cyril61 (RW)
 - DaviXD (RW)
 - Turb (VdR)
 - evas2 (VdR)
 - Vakapp (RW)
 - Muack (amstrad.es)


Total: 6 units


Now, anyone on the waiting list can claim one unit


Please, contact me in advance and make your PayPal payment and send your shipping address. I'll be shipping these units after the Holidays.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: zhulien on 15:12, 24 December 18
I am wondering... what would be the effort to make this work on a Sega SC3000H?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:08, 26 December 18
I am wondering... what would be the effort to make this work on a Sega SC3000H?
While some parts maybe reused, it's a completely different project.
I never owned a SC3000H, but doesn't it have a cartridge port?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 20:08, 26 December 18
Yes, it has a cartridge port  ;D
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: zhulien on 13:00, 27 December 18
The SC3000 is very MSX-like. It's an almost-MSX or an almost-Colecovision.


from the awesome SMSPower website:


http://www.smspower.org/maxim/Documents/Pinouts (http://www.smspower.org/maxim/Documents/Pinouts)


I believe from a hardware expansion point of view, it is likely easy to adapt between it and CPC - maybe even with the MSX adapter... SC3000 also uses 3" discs that copy fine on CPC with discology6.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:32, 27 December 18
I believe from a hardware expansion point of view, it is likely easy to adapt between it and CPC - maybe even with the MSX adapter... SC3000 also uses 3" discs that copy fine on CPC with discology6.


I'm afraid it's not that easy.


For starters, the CPLD is synchronised with the wait cycles of the CPC, a world apart of those of the MSX or alike, furthermore, the mapping heavily relies on RAMDIS and ROMDIS signals, not likely to be present on the SC3000. Also FollowromE signal is hardware connected to RomRead signal from the CPC and hardcoded to respond on A14=A15, very unlikely to be MSX Compliant....


And that's only the reconfigurable part (CPLD), the cartridge has a 3,5kb packed Z80 asm code that interacts directly with the CPC hardware. It would need to be rewritten. The PC/Mac Java Part implements a CPC464 and CPC6128 embedded emulator that would also need to be rewritten.


These are only some of the things that would need to be changed to make this work on an MSX-like computer, so you can see it's a completely different project.



Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 02:21, 03 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


The CPC Dandators arrived in good condition.  Thanks
All working well.


A small question :- Has anybody made a label ( Or template ) that I can put on the Box
That I could print out.


Ps Is there a Test program in the CPC version like The ZX Version ?


Thanks Ray

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Gryzor on 09:48, 03 January 19
Yessss mine arrived yesterday as well! Too bad I currently don't have a CPC available to play with it but I will remedy that soon :)


I was wondering about the label, too, btw.


Thanks so much for your efforts and for the unit, @Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018) !
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 10:31, 03 January 19
Hi,
There are no labels AFAIK, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone makes them soon as they did before with the ZX. I'll keep an eye on it.


About the test program, there is a basic test by McLeod that gets installed once you use the standard menu (update your games from the Java tool). There is also one in the making by Llopis, I'm helping him with the CPC initialisation and Dandanator routines. There is no estimated delivery time so far, though.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 11:13, 03 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Thanks, I will have a look at the update procedure.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 05:15, 04 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Thanks again for the CPC Dandanator.
I am using it as a piece of test equipment.
When I plug the Dandanator in I get some Music GOOD


I have a sound fault on a CPC 464 and its good to have Instant Music to trace where the sound had gone.


Thanks Again.  Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 12:20, 04 January 19
New small batch of CPC Dandanators available in late January-Early February.


Hi all, I'm glad to report that a small batch of 10 CPC Dandanators will be available for delivery soon.


If you are interested, please contact me (PM)  for getting the details to proceed with the payment and sending of your postal address


Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: TotO on 17:38, 04 January 19
We had a meeting in Madrid last weekend: Syx came from Brasil and 6128 from León to show us a new game they are developing, and Dandare gave out the Dandanator among the users that came to cpcmaníaco's home to pick their unit.
Sadly, I was not able to came for only 1 day. I hope you have fun with SyX, Rafa and others!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: LambdaMikel on 21:00, 04 January 19
New small batch of CPC Dandanators available in late January-Early February.


Hi all, I'm glad to report that a small batch of 10 CPC Dandanators will be available for delivery soon.


If you are interested, please contact me (PM)  for getting the details to proceed with the payment and sending of your postal address


Done! Thanks for making this great piece of hardware!! Looking forward to it.   :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 21:01, 04 January 19
New small batch of CPC Dandanators available in late January-Early February.


Hi all, I'm glad to report that a small batch of 10 CPC Dandanators will be available for delivery soon.


If you are interested, please contact me (PM)  for getting the details to proceed with the payment and sending of your postal address


5 remaining. Thank you all.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Rennert on 19:43, 05 January 19

5 remaining. Thank you all.
OK I will buy a board
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Sebastian Blanco on 20:02, 09 January 19
What the board have to do to sword of ianna ?, the game can be load from tape or floppy theres a especial version also in cartrige ?.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: deepfb on 20:14, 09 January 19
Sword of Ianna is a game for ZX Spectrum that was realeased on ZX's Dandanator. I have seen some graphics of the game converted to CPC, but the author was not part of Retroworks team, and I don't know of any "real" project aimed to make a CPC version of it.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: kawickboy on 11:38, 10 January 19
I tried it on msx2 too, excellent game.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:58, 12 January 19
Hi, I'm sad to report that there is a slight problem with the board with the standard 6128 when booting to Basic.


Unfortunately, the only fix is to reprogram the CPLD of the cartridge, and that's something that requires a CPLD programmer.
This problem only becomes visible in a small number of 6128's. Others, while still having the issue, it doesn't cause usage problems, but it has to be corrected anyway.


This does not affect 464 and the plus series, but it also affects 664's.
The problem arises when the CPC is trying to initialize and/or use the AMSDOS rom.


So I strongly suggest that you don't boot into basic with the cartridge plugged in until you have the chance to reprogram the CPLD.
The new code will be up in www.dandare.es in a few days.


I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. This would normally have been a confined problem easily solved in future batchs, but the first batch is 178 units and none of my 6128 had any symptoms.


Please try and find someone near you that can reprogram a Xilinx xc9572xl CPLD (the one in the cartridge).
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 18:07, 12 January 19
What is the nature of the problem? Is is because the ROM 7 can't be replaced in some CPCs?


Maybe we can make a "test" to check if one personal CPC has the problem or not, this would decrease the number of chips to be reprogrammed.  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:11, 12 January 19
What is the nature of the problem? Is is because the ROM 7 can't be replaced in some CPCs?


Maybe we can make a "test" to check if one personal CPC has the problem or not, this would decrease the number of chips to be reprogrammed.  :)


No matter the problem produces visible effects or not, it is still there.


The source is the way the cartridge drives the Romdis signal, alternating between 1 and 0 instead of the correct 1 and Z.
When this happens, and due to the way 6128s implement romdis, the AMSDOS rom tries to disable the internal Firmware rom but it can't, causing collisions.


I'm afraid if you plan to use the cartridge from basic or alongside AMSDOS, it should get reprogrammed.
I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:59, 12 January 19
Yo can now get the fixed JED file (for programming the CPLD) from the downloads section of www.dandare.es
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:21, 13 January 19
Good news,


Thanks to mad3001 and overCLK, we've now been able to reprogram the Dandanator CPLD using only an arduino nano (€2.0 aprox.) hardware.
We've used a lot of info and resources from different Internet pages in the process, and adapted them a bit.


In the following days/weeks, we'll be integrating this upgrade into the Romset Generator, so you would just need to plugin your Arduino nano, connect it to the CPC Dandanator Board and press a button. Then your cartridge CPLD will be upgraded.


I'll keep you posted..
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 20:23, 13 January 19
That's a great idea!!! If it works then please post us a link where to get the hardware and the connection cable.  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 00:38, 14 January 19
Good news,
Thanks to mad3001 and overCLK, we've now been able to reprogram the Dandanator CPLD using only an arduino nano (€2.0 aprox.) hardware.
We've used a lot of info and resources from different Internet pages in the process, and adapted them a bit.
In the following days/weeks, we'll be integrating this upgrade into the Romset Generator, so you would just need to plugin your Arduino nano, connect it to the CPC Dandanator Board and press a button. Then your cartridge CPLD will be upgraded.
I'll keep you posted.. 


Hi Dan


YES thats what I call SUPPORT/SERVICE.


Thanks.  Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 03:56, 15 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)

Is this the Arduino Nano to purchase
It takes a while from china.
Thanks.  Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: LambdaMikel on 08:37, 15 January 19
Good news,


Thanks to mad3001 and overCLK, we've now been able to reprogram the Dandanator CPLD using only an arduino nano (€2.0 aprox.) hardware.
We've used a lot of info and resources from different Internet pages in the process, and adapted them a bit.


In the following days/weeks, we'll be integrating this upgrade into the Romset Generator, so you would just need to plugin your Arduino nano, connect it to the CPC Dandanator Board and press a button. Then your cartridge CPLD will be upgraded.


I'll keep you posted..
Excellent, it takes courage and character to own that there is a bug!
Some hardware developers just stay silent when a bug gets discovered... (not mentioning any names)
 
Great that there is such an easy solution to it - everone should own an Arduino anyhow  :)

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 09:12, 15 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)

Is this the Arduino Nano to purchase
It takes a while from china.
Thanks.  Ray


That one is ok. An arduino Uno will also work.

In any case take two things into account:
1) make sure it has a bootloader already installed from factory. Otherwise you will have a hard time programming the arduino itself. The ones I bought clearly state that.
2) if you don’t have any means to solder the pins, either buy it with the pins soldered or get some male-male DuPont cables. At the end of the day, you’ll need to “plug” the arduino into the CPC Dandanator JTAG connector.  Getting those super cheap cables is always a good idea (three combinations, MM, MF, FF)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 10:35, 15 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


Ok I will wait.
Do you have a link to the one you purchased Please.


I will order some leads (3 types)


Thanks.   Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 13:13, 15 January 19
These are the ones I've bought. They haven't arrived yet though, so I can't be sure the seller's claim about the bootloader is true.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-10PCS-LOT-Nano-3-0-controller-compatible-with-arduino-nano-NO-CABLE/1950565375.html (https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-10PCS-LOT-Nano-3-0-controller-compatible-with-arduino-nano-NO-CABLE/1950565375.html)
(do not mind the title "10PCS Lot...", they are sold in units.)


Here is another option if you'd rather have an Arduino Uno. You need to choose the blue one. I also purchased one but hasn't arrived yet either. It will also work with our solution. (no explicit mention to the bootloader, but I hope it comes preloaded with it)
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Un-negro-azul-rojo-UNO-R3-CH340G-MEGA328P-Chip-16-MHz-UNO-R3-para-arduino/32831857482.html (https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Un-negro-azul-rojo-UNO-R3-CH340G-MEGA328P-Chip-16-MHz-UNO-R3-para-arduino/32831857482.html)


And this is one option for Dupont cables. Choose the whole lot (M-M, M-F, F-F) so you are served.
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-Dupont-line-120pcs-10cm-male-to-male-male-to-female-and-female-to-female/318950_2041500641.html (https://es.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-Dupont-line-120pcs-10cm-male-to-male-male-to-female-and-female-to-female/318950_2041500641.html)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 21:53, 15 January 19
Well, all java code is ready and tested. In one button press, the Arduino gets programmed and the Dandanator updated. Nothing else to do but plug the arduino to the PC and to the Dandanator.


overCLK is integrating the code into the main Romset creator and I'll also write an step-by-step manual for Nano and Uno, including purchase links for arduinos.


And this is how it looks. Just press "Programar"

(https://i.imgur.com/lDFSPdhl.jpg)







13 people from the forum have ordered a total of 15 CPC Dandanators


Only 5 are affected (total 6 CPC Dandanators) (Please, read the end of the message)
 - Audronics (2)
 - Asertus
 - Gryzor
 - Gunhed
 - ComSoft6128


The other 8 people (9 CPC Dandanators) will receive the cartridge with the correct JED loaded. So you guys just forget all this :) .
 - remax
 - villain
 - zhulien (2)
 - LambdaMikel
 - gros_minet
 - rennert
 - Jungsi
 - Fedeo




Since this is MY FAULT and mine only, and you are too far away for getting together in a retro event, I'm willing to pay for the arduinos nano you need to correct it.  So, for those of you in the first list, just drop me a PM with your PayPal account and I'll send you 2€ for the Nano. I'm sorry for the hassle, but I believe we are making the upgrade process quite painless.


I hope the manual will be online by the end of January.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:06, 16 January 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)


NO Payment required, Thanks anyway.


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 09:23, 16 January 19
As my primary use of the Dandanator will be with a 6128+ (Parados on cartridge) I don't anticipate that this will be a problem.

And thanks - for the product support.

Cheers,

Peter
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: asertus on 09:57, 16 January 19
No payment required for me.., actually, I own a 464 and a plus, none having the problem. But I will try to test the "reprogramming"... I think I can borrow an Arduino...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 00:03, 18 January 19
And overCLK shared a video of the updated process.
He is using a patched 1.2 dandanator board to become a 1.3 so don't mind the PCB mods.


https://youtu.be/Cs28mSGc6f8
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 01:05, 19 January 19
One question please: If I press the button, and the Dandanator is off, I do see the usual sign-on message, yellow on blue. Like usual. But... the AMSDOS is not there. How can I get Amsdos back?  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 05:36, 19 January 19
One question please: If I press the button, and the Dandanator is off, I do see the usual sign-on message, yellow on blue. Like usual. But... the AMSDOS is not there. How can I get Amsdos back?  :)


This is actually the bug we are trying to correct with the arduino update.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 16:21, 20 January 19
... and I'll also write an step-by-step manual for Nano and Uno, including purchase links for arduinos.


Thank's that's a great idea!  :)  Probably there is no way to perform the update using the CPC??

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:53, 26 January 19

Thank's that's a great idea!  :)  Probably there is no way to perform the update using the CPC??


I'm afraid not
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:02, 26 January 19
Romset creator V2.0 launched with the following new features:
you can get the new romset creator at the project webpage (http://www.dandare.es/Proyectos_Dandare/Projects_EN.html), look at the end of the downloads section.


also check the google-translated manual  (https://translate.google.es/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dandare.es%2FProyectos_Dandare%2FManual_CPCDDTRMini.html)for instructions and arduino purchase links
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 17:06, 27 January 19
Great news!  :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 23:59, 29 January 19
mad3001 has produced a set of videos with step by step English instructions to disassemble, update CPLD and reassemble the CPC Dandanator.


Here are the links:


Disassembly:


https://youtu.be/PxddTntf7W0 (https://youtu.be/PxddTntf7W0)



]Update CPLD with Arduino Uno:



https://youtu.be/GQoJ0uGtEuA (https://youtu.be/GQoJ0uGtEuA)


Update CPLD with Arduino Nano:


https://youtu.be/ZN1jN9j9ThI (https://youtu.be/ZN1jN9j9ThI)


Reassembly:

https://youtu.be/_POoohPNYtM (https://youtu.be/_POoohPNYtM)


I hope you find them useful

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 21:06, 04 February 19
A lot of units have already been updated using arduinos.
Any feedback from the users of this forum?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 00:24, 05 February 19
HI Dan


Still waiting for parts from China


Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: robcfg on 01:44, 05 February 19
Mine was successfully programmed with a Nano.


I’ll be telling more as soon as I can test it...


[edit] corrected arduino model. Nano instead of Uno.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 08:38, 05 February 19
Hi Dan


The NANO arrived today, (BUT).  NO But,  it programmed the Dandanator.



This is as far as I get ??
The Detected light just flashes. ??


AND IF RAY WAITS FOR 1 MINUTE it then goes and programs the Dandanator .

Thanks.   Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 09:36, 05 February 19
Hi Dan

Sorry for the garbled messages above.

The first Dandanator that was updated Took about a Minute to go from Detected to Validated, and then straight to Programmed.
It then took about 1 Minute to do the Job

The second Dandanator took about 2 Seconds to go from Detected to Validated and then straight to Programmed.

Thanks Now are both Updated.

Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 10:59, 05 February 19
Hi Dan

Sorry for the garbled messages above.

The first Dandanator that was updated Took about a Minute to go from Detected to Validated, and then straight to Programmed.
It then took about 1 Minute to do the Job

The second Dandanator took about 2 Seconds to go from Detected to Validated and then straight to Programmed.

Thanks Now are both Updated.

Ray


I'm glad it worked.
The culprit of the delay is the mess around Arduino bootloaders... there are tons of variations with different speeds and conditions. Instead of making you guys use a tool to program the Arduino, we implemented a kind of jack-of-all-trades stk protocol (the boot loader protocol) and tuned it here and there.
Of course it's not optimised, so with certain bootloaders or hw configurations, it may take a while to detect the Arduino.


In your specific case, the first dandanator took a bit more because we only program the Arduino if it is not already programmed with the CPLD software, so your Arduino was only flashed once, the first time.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 11:06, 05 February 19
Hi Dan


Thanks.
It was the first time I have used a NANO so was sure of what was to happen (The Video was fine).
Please thank all the people who got this flasher up and running.
and thanks for the Support that you (and your team) provide,




Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.2 - WIP
Post by: Audronic on 01:42, 06 February 19
@Dandare (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2018)

A small question :- Has anybody made a label ( Or template ) that I can put on the Box
That I could print out.

Any Label makers out there ? ?
Bump


Thanks. Ray
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 11:37, 15 February 19
Hi,
All your units are already posted in the mail.
Remember that these units are already updated (CPLD code). No need to change anything for you guys.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: LambdaMikel on 19:51, 15 February 19
Great, thank you!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Fedeo on 21:55, 19 February 19
I have already received my Dandanator. Thank you!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 22:06, 19 February 19
Nice!
I hope you like it
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: remax on 22:15, 19 February 19
Hi,
All your units are already posted in the mail.
  • remax
  • villain
  • zhulien (2 units)
  • LambdaMikel
  • gros_minet
  • rennert
  • Jungsi
  • Fedeo
Remember that these units are already updated (CPLD code). No need to change anything for you guys.


Just in time for the hollidays... the period where i have time for the cpc !
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 20:51, 24 February 19
Little offtopic: All the cables etc. are in Aliexpress. They don't use PayPal. What would you suggest to use to pay products?

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 16:38, 26 February 19
Little offtopic: All the cables etc. are in Aliexpress. They don't use PayPal. What would you suggest to use to pay products?
I use Alipay, never had a problem.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 23:58, 26 February 19
The Ardurino and cables arrived and I did try to update!

Now... the video shows well how to connect the cables. But the software...

Well, I started "CH341SER.EXE" and clicked at install

Then I started the "dandanator-cpc-2.0.jar" and started it.

Then I did as shown in the video!


AND IT WORKS!!!!!  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


There was no need to do an extra install or an extra download! That's amazing!!!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 23:55, 02 March 19
CPC Dandanator Romset Creator 2.1 is available at the downloads section of  www.dandare.es (http://www.dandare.es)
It corrects some bugs we introduced in 2.0 (ooops  :picard: ) and enhances CDT load with some tweaks here and there.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 13:46, 07 March 19
Preview of the upcoming feature in the next release. Direct Load of games from the PC via USB in about 6 seconds





https://youtu.be/AaWIGeH-VAU
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: ikonsgr on 20:41, 07 March 19
I think we found a new candidate (the other is surely "M4" board...  :P ) for Amstrad CPC oscar awards, in the category of:

"UNBELIEVABLE HARDWARE FOR CPC"    :o

And as someone else commented in the past, about M4 board:

"Indeed, Amstrad CPC seems a nice peripheral for Dandanator"...  :D

Respect!
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Mr. DVG on 16:16, 30 March 19
Hi guys, I noticed this thread now and was interested in buying a Dandanator, but is it still available? What are the purchase methods? Who should I contact? How much?  :P

Unfortunately, my M4 has stopped working after a year of intensive use and I need to restore my CPC gaming station (abstinence crisis) as soon as possible!  ::)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 23:15, 31 March 19
Hi guys, I noticed this thread now and was interested in buying a Dandanator, but is it still available? What are the purchase methods? Who should I contact? How much?  :P

Unfortunately, my M4 has stopped working after a year of intensive use and I need to restore my CPC gaming station (abstinence crisis) as soon as possible!  ::)


Hi, I,ve sent you a PM
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 19:32, 01 April 19
Do we already have some kind of page which collects the "romsets" / ROM-packs for the Dandanator?
If not it could be a great idea to create such a page for the CPC-Wiki.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 19:35, 01 April 19
Not that I know of.


I'm not too familiar with the distribution rights of the CPC games, but I guess most of them are now either not restricted or directly allowed for distribution, aren't they?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 19:52, 01 April 19
Yes, I would think so. If someone of use will make a kind of "personal favorites game pack" or what ever it would be nice to have them somewhere. Similar to the C4CPC cartridge conversions.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 01:39, 05 April 19
Version 2.2 of Dandanator CPC is released at www.dandare.es (http://www.dandare.es).


You can now load games directly from the PC without burning them to the cartridge.
Also, first generation CPC 464s transmission issues should be fixed in this version. Please provide your feedback.


There are now over 400 CPC Dandanators delivered. Thank you all. Remember this is a Public Domain project and you can use whatever you want from it with no restriction whatsoever.

Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 16:06, 05 April 19
Congratulations! 400+ is awesome!  ;) :) :)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: zhulien on 09:27, 09 April 19
There are now over 400 CPC Dandanators delivered. Thank you all. Remember this is a Public Domain project and you can use whatever you want from it with no restriction whatsoever.


did someone order 350 of them or are there really close to 400 individual buyers?  nice to know the size of active hardware base.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: KaosOverride on 12:02, 09 April 19
At spanish forums this hardware did sell very well and the initial batch had to be expanded. Numbers make sense also if the "Repoker de ases" packs are counted. I bought 2 reprogramable units and a "repoker" btw
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: villain on 18:00, 09 April 19
Since it's an "open source" (or whatever you call it...) project it may be difficult to count. M4 quantities should be more valid...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 16:31, 10 April 19
Well, I already got this nice hardware. But where can I get the "Repoker de ases"? Is there a download? Can it be bought? (Asking since I don't need the hardware twice).
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: zhulien on 18:12, 10 April 19
haha the ads for Repoker de ases are funny as.  I want one too, where can I get one?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: KaosOverride on 22:09, 10 April 19
I'm sorry, looks like it's sold out...


https://www.4mhz.es/producto/amstrad-repoker-ases/ (https://www.4mhz.es/producto/amstrad-repoker-ases/)


It's just a regular Dandanator but with the usb header and the buttons removed, so it's for easy storage and to use the dandanator as "ROM replacing RAM" to make the 128kb games work at 64kb machines.


At the software side, it has a custom selector and doesn't look is SNA based... Sorry but there is not download until someone at 4Mhz makes a decision or someone crack opens it's "Repoker pack" and reads the eeprom...
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: GUNHED on 23:16, 10 April 19
They should IMHO provide a digital download. (cost or free, doesn't matter).
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:58, 14 April 19
They should IMHO provide a digital download. (cost or free, doesn't matter).


They will. ;) (for free AFAIK)
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:00, 14 April 19

did someone order 350 of them or are there really close to 400 individual buyers?  nice to know the size of active hardware base.


The numbers I have:


4Mhz : 200 units
Individual Buyers directly from me : 203 units.
Small batch from other Spanish forum : 10 units.


At the end of the day, units go to individual buyers (since 4mhz is sold out already). It may be the case that some users have two units. Very few users (2 or 3) have 3 units.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 18:03, 14 April 19
Since it's an "open source" (or whatever you call it...) project it may be difficult to count. M4 quantities should be more valid...


Many times people contact me when building their own boards, either for permission (you don't need it btw), or heads-up (thanks), or asking technical or logistics questions.


But you're right, I can only track those I know of. If someone builds 100 tomorrow and decides not to tell me, I would miss the count for those units.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 19:13, 14 April 19
...
It's just a regular Dandanator but with the usb header and the buttons removed, so it's

At the software side, it has a custom selector and doesn't look is SNA based... Sorry but there is not download until someone at 4Mhz makes a decision or someone crack opens it's "Repoker pack" and reads the eeprom...


It’s a standard CPC dandanator with no buttons and no USB circuitry. Not only the usb header, but the usb chip, xtal and related capacitors.


Loader is custom made by 4mhz and myself and it’s not based on the sna format.
4mhz will post the digital download for free as they always do with their games. I don’t know any estimated date though.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Jungsi on 16:08, 20 April 19
Hey Dan,
today I wanted to test the ROM Generator with the Mojon Twins Romset. With drag&drop the rom into the ROM Generator and also with importing the ROMset
I have the German message ""Fehler beim Datei-Import" - Unerwarteter Dateiinhalt für die benötigte Funktion" :-)
If you can remember there was the same problem with the ZX Dandantor in 2018. :-)
Is there something broken or am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: Dandare on 17:37, 20 April 19
Hey Dan,
today I wanted to test the ROM Generator with the Mojon Twins Romset. With drag&drop the rom into the ROM Generator and also with importing the ROMset
I have the German message ""Fehler beim Datei-Import" - Unerwarteter Dateiinhalt für die benötigte Funktion" :-)
If you can remember there was the same problem with the ZX Dandantor in 2018. :-)
Is there something broken or am I doing something wrong?


Hi, the Mojon Twins romset is not a standard dandanator CPC romset, so it cannot be imported into the ROMset generator by dragging it. If you want to resend it to your CPC Dandanator, please use the "Send alterative file" from the preferences menu, Loader tab.
Title: Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
Post by: yannis_uno on 16:57, 22 April 19

The numbers I have:


4Mhz : 200 units
Individual Buyers directly from me : 203 units.
Small batch from other Spanish forum : 10 units.


At the end of the day, units go to individual buyers (since 4mhz is sold out already). It may be the case that some users have two units. Very few users (2 or 3) have 3 units.


Dandare, could you please put me down on the waiting list for one?


Thanks! :)