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CPC Plus cartridge replacement : one more

Started by gerald, 16:39, 01 November 14

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Are you interested in buying a 3D-printed case for the cartridge? Hoe many units? (only vote if you want one or more!)

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dragon

Quote from: CraigsBar on 19:03, 01 April 15
OK I got my Eprom version out and tested it in my 6128 plus... All games work.


checked the C4CPC in the same machine... Only a few work.


Checked the size of my classics eprom, it's a M27C4001 (512kb) so much larger than either image in this thread so far.
> on inspection the fill 512kb is not full, a lot of the end is filled with FF, but the data section is longer than 256kb. I guess the other dumps were truncated at some point in the past.


Dumped it from the eprom to BIN then BIN->CPR


tested that one in the C4CPC


All Games works perfectly in both the 464plus and 6128plus


Attached here is the 513kb CPR file

I tested it in gx4000 All games boot except donkey kong lol .

PD: Yes arnold the glitches you described are my defects.

TFM

Quote from: gerald on 19:09, 01 April 15
Agreed, I did not even know about .crt file (cathode ray tube  ::) ). If it's raw binary, lets call it .bin !

Good idea. Too much extensions confuse anyway. [nb]Do we have .lcd file support yet? :laugh: [/nb]
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arnoldemu

Quote from: CraigsBar on 19:03, 01 April 15
OK I got my Eprom version out and tested it in my 6128 plus... All games work.


checked the C4CPC in the same machine... Only a few work.


Checked the size of my classics eprom, it's a M27C4001 (512kb) so much larger than either image in this thread so far.
> on inspection the fill 512kb is not full, a lot of the end is filled with FF, but the data section is longer than 256kb. I guess the other dumps were truncated at some point in the past.


Dumped it from the eprom to BIN then BIN->CPR


tested that one in the C4CPC


All Games works perfectly in both the 464plus and 6128plus


Attached here is the 513kb CPR file
I will fix donkey Kong on this dump too.
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CraigsBar

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arnoldemu

Quote from: CraigsBar on 21:41, 01 April 15
cheers kev ;)
Attached.

(Craigs dump with Donkey Kong start fix for gx4000).
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arnoldemu

Quote from: dragon on 19:44, 01 April 15
I tested it in gx4000 All games boot except donkey kong lol .

PD: Yes arnold the glitches you described are my defects.
I didn't look into the glitch in a lot of detail. There is nothing unusual in the code, it is using standard firmware functions to change the mode. It may be down to the difference in cpu timing on the gx4000. I will investigate further it's worth looking at.


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CraigsBar

Quote from: arnoldemu on 09:49, 02 April 15
I didn't look into the glitch in a lot of detail. There is nothing unusual in the code, it is using standard firmware functions to change the mode. It may be down to the difference in cpu timing on the gx4000. I will investigate further it's worth looking at.
the plus machines also have this mode change glitch, I guess it is possibly a global asic timing thing.
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arnoldemu

Quote from: CraigsBar on 09:56, 02 April 15
the plus machines also have this mode change glitch, I guess it is possibly a global asic timing thing.
Is it ever seen on the normal CPC?

I've seen similar stuff happen before and the way the mode is changed is not the most accurate, I came up with a much more accurate method a few years ago.

Normal method can move by 8 lines, my more accurate method never had the same problem.
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CraigsBar

Quote from: arnoldemu on 10:09, 02 April 15
Is it ever seen on the normal CPC?

I've seen similar stuff happen before and the way the mode is changed is not the most accurate, I came up with a much more accurate method a few years ago.

Normal method can move by 8 lines, my more accurate method never had the same problem.
I'll grab the dsk from CPC power tonight and test it in my pluses, and cpcs and let you know.
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arnoldemu

Quote from: dragon on 13:35, 25 March 15
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=8838(well only curiosity of course)
The CSD cart is working correctly. Of course it needs a modified 464/6128+ with CSD hardware and more than 1 cart to work correctly.

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CraigsBar

Quote from: arnoldemu on 10:45, 02 April 15
The CSD cart is working correctly. Of course it needs a modified 464/6128+ with CSD hardware and more than 1 cart to work correctly.
hmmm I wonder if it could be modified to use the 16 slots of a C4CPC? That would be a cool default slot 0 cart.
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dragon

Quote from: arnoldemu on 12:50, 01 April 15
It's just a bin file with a  "crt" extension.
Change to .bin and try in c4cpc.

Shame you can't control it via joystick.

EDIT: Tried it. Yes works on gx4000 - but no joystick so I can't play it.
I can skip the nice scroller and title screen however.

Can be fixed?. I mean you don't not need construct the entire joystick system for the menu. Only insert manually The two numbers/ calls to select joystick and start game, and jump the menu in gx4000.

Quote from: CraigsBar link=topic=9856.msg96672#msg96672

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I'll grab the dsk from CPC power tonight and test it in my pluses, and cpcs and let you know.

Test it in the cost-down. If I was amstrad engineer,  I probably copy design circuit for old generatión from the pre-asic chip.

CraigsBar

Quote from: dragon on 12:24, 02 April 15
Test it in the cost-down. If I was amstrad engineer,  I probably copy design circuit for old generatión from the pre-asic chip.

I don't have a cost down. I have a revision 1 Schneider CPC 6128, a revision 2 Amstrad CPC 6128, and 3 plusses (2 x 6128+ and 1 x 464+)

So I cannot test in cost down, but I can output the dsk to my HxC and test it in the machines I do have.
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arnoldemu

Quote from: dragon on 12:24, 02 April 15
Can be fixed?. I mean you don't not need construct the entire joystick system for the menu. Only insert manually The two numbers/ calls to select joystick and start game, and jump the menu in gx4000.
If it's compressed then it's best for Cesar to fix it.

If it's uncompressed, then possibly, but as with other carts it's extra work.
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CraigsBar

Quote from: CraigsBar on 12:30, 02 April 15
I don't have a cost down. I have a revision 1 Schneider CPC 6128, a revision 2 Amstrad CPC 6128, and 3 plusses (2 x 6128+ and 1 x 464+)

So I cannot test in cost down, but I can output the dsk to my HxC and test it in the machines I do have.
okay....

Grabbed the original dsk and the 16k EPROM from cpc-power.

The disk has no issues with the modesplit on any machine.
The ROM however always has the mode split corruption. I guess this was used as the source for the cart release on Amstrad classics.
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CraigsBar

OK Since this seems like a reasonable place to share.. Here are some quick and dirty conversions to CPR I have made, either a long time ago to test my Eprom Swap cart, or since getting my c4cpc.


None are extended to use the plus features - I am not that skilled


None are tested on the GX4000 - They are to all intents and purposes No$cart conversions.


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arnoldemu

Quote from: CraigsBar on 01:16, 04 April 15
OK Since this seems like a reasonable place to share.. Here are some quick and dirty conversions to CPR I have made, either a long time ago to test my Eprom Swap cart, or since getting my c4cpc.


None are extended to use the plus features - I am not that skilled


None are tested on the GX4000 - They are to all intents and purposes No$cart conversions.
They will not work on gx4000 because you used no$cart.

When I fix no$cart would you remake them?
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CraigsBar

Quote from: arnoldemu on 10:35, 04 April 15
They will not work on gx4000 because you used no$cart.

When I fix no$cart would you remake them?
sure i will ;)

The only change I made to no$cart was to remove the broken logo from the top left ;)  if it had been a working accurate logo I'd have left it lol.
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TFM

Really no need for advertisements, which just disturb the gaming experience. So, yes, please get rid of logos[nb]icons and windows and all that crap  :laugh: [/nb]
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CraigsBar

Quote from: TFM on 15:34, 04 April 15
Really no need for advertisements, which just disturb the gaming experience. So, yes, please get rid of logos[nb]icons and windows and all that crap  :laugh: [/nb]
well I did re image the logo and make a loader screen that provided credit to no$cart. But with the crack intro and trainer selection screen it got a bit silly loading the games so I removed it.
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fgbrain

This awesome cart can also serve as an additional way to transfer files from / to PC - CPC!!

Provided we get proper software, we can read from SD card and save to disk and vice versa..

Correct??  :o
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6128 (UK keyboard, Crtc type 0/2), 6128+ (UK keyboard), 3.5" and 5.25" drives, Reset switch and Digiblaster (selfmade), Inicron Romram box, Bryce Megaflash, SVideo & PS/2 mouse, , Magnum Lightgun, X-MEM, X4 Board, C4CPC, Multiface2 X4, RTC X4 and Gotek USB Floppy emulator.

gerald

Quote from: fgbrain on 16:24, 04 April 15
This awesome cart can also serve as an additional way to transfer files from / to PC - CPC!!

Provided we get proper software, we can read from SD card and save to disk and vice versa..

Correct??  :o
Yes, and no  ;D
PM  ;)

TFM

In principle you are right. But it's probably as telling I can use my toaster to heat the house.  ;)   :)
Since the Cartridge ROM is READ ONLY and writing is done by reading from specific addresses it's not as using I/O ports for data transfer or even memory mapped would be.  :)


Just add an X-MASS and you'll be lucky!  :)
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fgbrain

I'm happy enough if I can only import files from SD ! Nowadays I use more my tablet and smartphone for downloads than my PC.. Therefore C4CPC connects CPC to mobile hw!

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6128 (UK keyboard, Crtc type 0/2), 6128+ (UK keyboard), 3.5" and 5.25" drives, Reset switch and Digiblaster (selfmade), Inicron Romram box, Bryce Megaflash, SVideo & PS/2 mouse, , Magnum Lightgun, X-MEM, X4 Board, C4CPC, Multiface2 X4, RTC X4 and Gotek USB Floppy emulator.

arnoldemu

Attached is a fixed ik+ -  no$cart version modified to work on gx4000.

First I will make a c program that will take a no$cart generated cpr and patch it. Then I will look to make a replacement for no$cart eventually.

I modified:
* any access to df07 becomes df83
* do not send specify command to fdc - causes hang
* only scan roms on cart; this stops roms in a rom-board from clashing (e..g if you had parados in a romboard it would override the cart I think and stop it working).
* firmware thinks it's accessing 0-15 but 7 is mapped to &83, others to &81, so the firmware on the cart thinks it's a cpc6128 with disc rom.

I will publish more details soon....
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