HxC internal + Black case

jibanes · 06:29, 06 July 14

It's time to upgrade my 6128, we'll start by replacing the internal 3' drive with a HxC; before I order it on Lotharek's site, do I need to chose a special model for CPC or they're all the same? (There are different models on ebay, one per "architecture", although Lotharek's site doesn't seem to differentiate them).

Finally, do I also need a "Black case" ( http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=121 ) in addition to the HxC "Rev C" itself (or is it Rev F)? Please note that my intend is to replace the internal "A" drive, I do not need a "B" drive at this time.

Also, do I need to run special ROMs for the HxC, or the stock rom might suffice (for now?).

Cheers.

mr_lou · 06:59, 06 July 14

I bought one of those with a case once, thinking it would fit in a 3.5" disk-drive slot. But it didn't. It's slightly too big to fit.

Bryce · 09:37, 06 July 14

The HxC is generic, there is only one type (schematically speaking) which works on all systems with a Shugart connection. But there are many different physical variations. I have documented installing the Rev F (the one you've linked to) version in a 6128 here: CPC6128 mod. As you'll see, it needs some serious modding to the HxC or CPC to get it to fit. The Rev C version is more suitable for the CPC if you don't want to have to do too much hardware hacking.

Bryce.

Gryzor · 12:39, 06 July 14

If you are going to replace the internal drive, why would you need a case?

And no, you don't need to run anything at all to use the HxC ROM-wise, the system sees it as a normal drive

mr_lou · 12:49, 06 July 14

Quote from: Gryzor on 12:39, 06 July 14
If you are going to replace the internal drive, why would you need a case?

Because a 3.5" disk-drive is in a case?

Bryce · 12:57, 06 July 14

Quote from: Gryzor on 12:39, 06 July 14
If you are going to replace the internal drive, why would you need a case?

And no, you don't need to run anything at all to use the HxC ROM-wise, the system sees it as a normal drive

If you check the link he included you'll see it's the HxC with front plate, not really a case.

Bryce.

Gryzor · 16:17, 06 July 14

Quote from: mr_lou on 12:49, 06 July 14
Because a 3.5" disk-drive is in a case?

ehm... a totally different thing, the metal casing of a 3.5" drive which is for internal use and the clearly external-use HxC plastic case.

mr_lou · 16:56, 06 July 14

Quote from: Gryzor on 16:17, 06 July 14ehm... a totally different thing, the metal casing of a 3.5" drive which is for internal use and the clearly external-use HxC plastic case.

The "cased" HxC I got was of metal, and open in the top. I think it was to make it fit-able in a floppy drive spot somewhere. It wasn't.

Gryzor · 18:32, 06 July 14

Then it sounds like a metal caddy, not a case.

Bryce · 21:42, 06 July 14

Just take a look at his link and you'll see what he's talking about!

Bryce.

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Gryzor · 22:15, 06 July 14

Ahh right; hadn't seen that one. Still it's not a case

mr_lou · 06:13, 07 July 14

Quote from: Gryzor on 22:15, 06 July 14
Ahh right; hadn't seen that one. Still it's not a case

Well I'm calling it a case! And you can't make me stop!

Also, the dictionary says this:

a box or receptacle for holding something
a box together with its contents
set; specifically : pair
an outer covering or housing <a pastry case>
a tube into which the components of a round of ammunition are loaded
a divided tray for holding printing type

Source: Case - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
So eat it!

Gryzor · 07:32, 07 July 14

Ok, ok! It's a case! I'll have two, please

Bryce · 08:20, 07 July 14

Quote from: mr_lou on 06:13, 07 July 14
Well I'm calling it a case! And you can't make me stop!

Also, the dictionary says this:

a box or receptacle for holding something
a box together with its contents
set; specifically : pair
an outer covering or housing <a pastry case>
a tube into which the components of a round of ammunition are loaded
a divided tray for holding printing type
Source: Case - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
So eat it!

Congratulations! You have successfully graduated with honours from the "Bryce school of pedantology[NB]Yes, I know that's not a real word[/NB]"! Be proud!

Bryce.

Jeff_HxC2001 · 11:47, 07 July 14

Quote from: mr_lou on 16:56, 06 July 14
The "cased" HxC I got was of metal, and open in the top. I think it was to make it fit-able in a floppy drive spot somewhere. It wasn't.

Sure this is a 3"1/2 case. the CPC is in this format.

Have a look to the Slim version this one should fit better.

Bryce · 12:03, 07 July 14

Hi Jeff,
I managed to beat the 3.5in version into a CPC, but it took quite a bit of modding first (so that no CPC modding was required). You can see the pictures here: CPC6128 mod. (Apologies first for hacking your lovely case into bits

)

Bryce.

steve · 12:12, 07 July 14

Quote from: Bryce on 08:20, 07 July 14
Congratulations! You have successfully graduated with honours from the "Bryce school of pedantology[NB]Yes, I know that's not a real word[/NB]"! Be proud!

Bryce.

No, but pedantry is a real word.

Bryce · 12:17, 07 July 14

Yeah, but it doesn't sound like a science

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Bryce.

mr_lou · 13:11, 07 July 14

Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 11:47, 07 July 14
Sure this is a 3"1/2 case. the CPC is in this format.

Have a look to the Slim version this one should fit better.

My idea was to replace the floppy drive in my homemade external drive:
http://dewfall.dk/other/diskdrive01.jpg
http://dewfall.dk/other/diskdrive02.jpg

I assumed that the metal case (which it is, according to Bryce's School of Pedantology and The Merriam-Webster Dictionary), was designed with the same meassurements to replace the disk drive in various equipment, like e.g. a keyboard, so I was sure it would fit into that external drive of mine too.

But since it didn't fit, I asked Bryce to put it inside my CPC6128 instead.

Bryce · 13:40, 07 July 14

Really? The HxC case is the correct standard dimensions for a 3.5in PC drive[NB]Or at least it was before I hacked it into pieces.[/NB]. Your external drive must be some strange variant. What exactly didn't fit? And where did your external drive case originally come from?

Bryce.

mr_lou · 13:58, 07 July 14

Quote from: Bryce on 13:40, 07 July 14
Really? The HxC case is the correct standard dimensions for a 3.5in PC drive[NB]Or at least it was before I hacked it into pieces.[/NB]. Your external drive must be some strange variant. What exactly didn't fit? And where did your external drive case originally come from?

The plastic case was from a HP external burner I think. Then I just added some metal brackets (see picture 2) to be able to mount the 3.5" floppy drive you see on the pictures.
So a floppy drive fit well, as you see. In my small brain, that would mean that other devices intended to replace a floppy drive, would fit too. But it didn't. I couldn't cram in it there.

Having it in the CPC6128 is a better place for it anyway. I bought another external HxC for my CPC464.

chinnyhill10 · 14:49, 08 July 14

I prefer the cased external version. That way I can use it with other systems when I need to. Works wonderfully with my Spectrum +3.

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