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Title: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: xesrjb on 12:33, 20 December 10
I put all my games on this a 8GB SD card in directories called A - Z. If I go in one of this directory and made serveral scrolls, after the 6 or 7th scroll the filename were shown only in slow-motion.

Any hints? :(

xesrjb
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 13:26, 20 December 10
This is a "bug". i have already corrected this on the amiga version.
In fact the FAT cache setting is too low. Easy to correct this on Amiga, less on CPC (memory size problem).

For the moment i am a little busy so please be patient for the new version. (NoRecess maybe?)


Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 15:10, 20 December 10
Well I can eventually help I guess  :P
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 17:54, 20 December 10
What is the approximate maximum number of files/folder before the scrolling starts to go nuts? I have the same setup (8 gb + a-z folders), so I was wondering how to circumvent this problem?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: TFM on 23:54, 20 December 10
So... is it better to NOT use subfolders?

Is it more efficient to put all disc-images in the main directory?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 10:20, 21 December 10
Quote from: TFM/FS on 23:54, 20 December 10
So... is it better to NOT use subfolders?

Is it more efficient to put all disc-images in the main directory?

No...

So :
Quote
For the moment i am a little busy so please be patient for the new version. (NoRecess maybe?)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 10:54, 21 December 10
Sorry Jeff_HxC2001, but I was just asking if there is any way to make a usable sd-card in the mean time?  It takes ages to copy the files to the sd-card even in Winblows, so it would be very useful to know what is the approximate theoretical limit for the number of files or folders for the current version of the software?

I really don't mean to put the pressure on you, I just thought that maybe you could share this info for the mean time.

The software makes using the floppy emulator soo much easier. Thank you for making this possible : :D
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: xesrjb on 07:19, 30 January 11
any news?

xesrjb
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 10:54, 30 January 11
Quote from: xesrjb on 07:19, 30 January 11
any news?

xesrjb

I will work on this this week.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 11:30, 07 February 11
Any news on this improved file selector for Amstrad? Sorry, I could not resist :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 12:41, 07 February 11
Yeah, I did minor improvements last week on file selector. Next version will also allow the user to edit HxC's sound parameters (on-off for disc access or UI stuff).
The next release will include this as also the changes to be done this week by Jeff.

Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 13:37, 07 February 11
Great :D
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 09:08, 20 February 11
Don't want to be a pita, but what's the status of the new file selector for Amstrad? I saw Jeff posted new versions for Amiga/ST, but the CPC-version was the "old" one.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 13:37, 20 February 11
Let's say we both face time constraints...  :D don't worry we focus on it
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 21:23, 21 February 11
Great :) Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: xesrjb on 08:31, 22 February 11
Quote from: emuola on 21:23, 21 February 11
Great :) Thanks in advance!

me too

xesrjb
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 08:46, 22 February 11
Really glad to see it's coming along :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 00:19, 04 March 11
Actually i got some hard time, to the release will be a little late...
But don't worry i don't forget cpc users  ;D .
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: TFM on 03:06, 04 March 11
Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 00:19, 04 March 11
Actually i got some hard time, to the release will be a little late...
But don't worry i don't forget cpc users  ;D .

Hey, take your time. We all have a real life. And better you take more time, than to do it too quick (with maybe a bug). Thank's a lot for the wonderful HxC and it's software. :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 08:04, 04 March 11
Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 00:19, 04 March 11
Actually i got some hard time, to the release will be a little late...
But don't worry i don't forget cpc users  ;D .

Thanks man... I hope all gets better for your :)

Btw, care sharing how many you have sold?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 08:34, 04 March 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:04, 04 March 11
Thanks man... I hope all gets better for your :)

Btw, care sharing how many you have sold?

Actually more than 916..., 1000 very soon....
The average sale per month is 100 (120...80)
This device is used in very differents enviroments : retro computing (cpc,atari, amiga,...), music : synth and samplers , industrial : cnc and scientist machine.

And all of this in less than a year... i am surprised (and Lotharek too) by this success.
In fact we have to make urgently two small society last summer to avoid lot of legal issues regarding this success.

So my hardware/software devellopment around this isn't over, and some new hardware will be probably be released this year  ;)



Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 11:11, 04 March 11
1000?? Wow... that's really amazing!!! Say, can I reserve the actual #1000? :)

Well done mate, well done!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: xesrjb on 14:20, 23 March 11
push  ;)

xesrjb
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 19:46, 24 March 11
one push from here also ;)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 22:08, 24 March 11
Quote from: emuola on 19:46, 24 March 11
one push from here also ;)

Ok so it seems that it's time to make available at least an alpha version  ;D

Download Attached.
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 09:23, 25 March 11
Hmm? Changelog? :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 17:08, 26 March 11
Thanks Jeff :) Tested and workd fine, although I don't know what has changed ;)

I hope I'm not unreasonable by making the following feature requests:

1. By pressing a alphabet key list of files scrolls to the first file beginning with the aplhabet
2. FIles are arranged in alphabetical order as default (I'm not  100% sure this isn't already implemented someway?)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 23:40, 26 March 11
Yeah, I had pointed out both of those things I think - especially the first, navigation by typing (not only first letter, but like Windows Explorer or Directory Opus (even better, with the visible input box) does...
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 07:06, 27 March 11
Yes I had also Dopus in mind :) The "typing filename" feature would really rock!

Should the files be in alphabetical order? Because my files seem to be in the order they've been added to the sd card?!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 09:40, 27 March 11
The biggest feature in this alpha version is the READ fix : for directories with many many entries (200+) there is no more any slowdown like previously.

Unfortunately, the files can not be sorted. That would imply to get all the complete file list content for a specified folder, apply the sort and display it to the user. 2 major constraints for that : memory and speed (getting the complete file list would be very long and quickly boring for users).
That said, I advise you to manage your files with letters-folders, cf. A-D, E-L, M-P, Q-T, U-Z ..
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 17:18, 27 March 11
That's what I do - dirs with small groups (alphabetical) of files. But the find-as-you-type thingy could work, no?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: TFM on 22:15, 27 March 11
Quote from: norecess on 09:40, 27 March 11
The biggest feature in this alpha version is the READ fix : for directories with many many entries (200+) there is no more any slowdown like previously.

Unfortunately, the files can not be sorted. That would imply to get all the complete file list content for a specified folder, apply the sort and display it to the user. 2 major constraints for that : memory and speed (getting the complete file list would be very long and quickly boring for users).
That said, I advise you to manage your files with letters-folders, cf. A-D, E-L, M-P, Q-T, U-Z ..

Well, one can sort the files on the SD card itself, so there is no need to let the HxC to do the job (everytime agian).

Further people should understand that a microcontroller with very limited ressources is not a PC. So please don't expect from it what a CPC or PC can do. The HxC is not designed as a stand alone computer, it's a floppy emulator - and a great one!!!

IMHO: The software is really satisfying and I'm very glad with it. It offers way more that we can expect usually from such a piece of hardware. Thank's to the whole HxC team.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 23:01, 27 March 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:18, 27 March 11
That's what I do - dirs with small groups (alphabetical) of files. But the find-as-you-type thingy could work, no?

The file order on the sd hxc is the fat directory entry order (not exactly the date order).
to sort files try this software :

http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en (http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en)

The Amiga and Atari ST got an search feature.
The CPC version is almost done  ;) .
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 06:25, 28 March 11
QuoteFurther people should understand that a microcontroller with very     limited ressources is not a PC. So please don't expect from it what a     CPC or PC can do. The HxC is not designed as a stand alone computer,     it's a floppy emulator - and a great one!!!

I totally agree :) I put my files in 0...z folders and works great :) Thank you Jeff and team :)

QuoteThe Amiga and Atari ST got an search feature.
The CPC version is almost done

Woohoo :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 07:59, 28 March 11
Jeff beat me to it with the DriveSort program - I've been using it myself.

Great to hear that search is coming!!!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 16:20, 28 March 11
Actually I have trouble with the sub dirs now. Did not test thoroughly enough before.

If I have folders a,b,c,d, etc on the sd card the file selector shows me exactly the same files in every folder?! It seems that the files shown are the ones in the folder which was copied first to the sd card in Winblows?! The weirdest thing is that when I add a new folder to the sd card the new folder gets the same files as the "firtst folder"!? I already reformatted the card (8 GB Kingstom), but same results. In Winblows the folder comtents are ok.

FW 1.5.1.0 and selector 2.1a

Am I doing something reaally stupid here or what?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 16:31, 28 March 11
QuoteThe CPC version is almost done   .
Ahem :) I still have some work to do on my side and unfortunately, these days I'm reallllly busy (focusing on my 6 weeks-old kid) so please be indulgent with potential delay. That said, the internals are done, most of the stuff to be done is UI-side so it should not take forever to finish it.



QuoteIt seems that the files shown are the ones in the folder which was copied first to the sd card
Yeah, this is the expected behavior. What is bad with that? The written files on SDCard will be the first shown ones in the HxC manager.


QuoteThat's what I do - dirs with small groups (alphabetical) of files. But the find-as-you-type thingy could work, no?
HxC Floppy Manager Manager is not iTunes. Still, a FIND option in current directory is being implemented. Which is better than nothing, right? :)





Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 16:37, 28 March 11
QuoteYeah, this is the expected behavior. What is bad with that? The written  files on SDCard will be the first shown ones in the HxC manager.

I ment that I have folders for games beginning with letter a, b, c, d etc and naturally I copy games accordingly. In Windows the files/folders are ok, but in the selector every folder a,b,c,d etc has the same files?! Like I said, every folder that gets copied to the sd card seems to get the files that are in folder which was copied first. So, every folder a,b,c,d,e etc have files beginning with a (files that are in folder "a"). Also tested with 1 GB Sandisk card. Result is the same :(

*edit*

One folder works, but adding more than one makes things go crazy (the new folders always get the contents from the first folder).

So, somehow the files/folders are displayed in a wrong way -> cannot use folders :(

I hope I make more sense now :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 17:17, 28 March 11
It's probably an unexpected behavior, I let Jeff answering on this..
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: xesrjb on 18:19, 28 March 11
You can put your cf in an ide adapter and sort it under MS DOS with DS (directory sort) from Norton!

xesrjb
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 18:22, 28 March 11
Yeah man! Norton ruled!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 18:30, 28 March 11
QuoteYou can put your cf in an ide adapter and sort it under MS DOS with DS (directory sort) from Norton!

Ok, but what is the actual reason/problem that causes this weirdness? Am I the only one with this problem, or has everybody else been using this "sorting" method?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Bryce on 18:52, 28 March 11
I use that sorting method and don't have that problem. Maybe you need to re-format the SD card.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 19:03, 28 March 11
Do I really need to get me sd/ide-adapter for this? Sounds a bit complicated...

QuoteMaybe you need to re-format the SD card.

I tried that, but unfortunately no help :(
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Bryce on 19:09, 28 March 11
Maybe a digital camera? That's what I format mine on.
Have you any other SD cards you can try? Maybe it's just f*@ked.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 19:13, 28 March 11
QuoteMaybe a digital camera? That's what I format mine on.
Have you any other SD cards you can try? Maybe it's just f*@ked.

Yes, I have a sd card reader, but I meant the sorting thingy in Dos. I got the impression that we're talking about ms-dos and thus the ide-adapter.

Are you using this software for sorting:

http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en (http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en)

Sorry, I'm somehow lost here.

*edit*

Tried also copying the files/folders to the sd card o my wifes laptop (with a built in sd slot). Same result.

Summing it up:

-2 different sd card readers
-2 different sd cards
-both cards formatted many times
-Sorted files with 2 different Windows (fat file/directory sorting) applications

= Does not work :(

I'm trying to copy the files in Ubuntu next, let's see...

Tried with 2 different sd cards, same result :(
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 19:37, 28 March 11
Quote from: emuola on 19:13, 28 March 11
Yes, I have a sd card reader, but I meant the sorting thingy in Dos. I got the impression that we're talking about ms-dos and thus the ide-adapter.

Are you using this software for sorting:

http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en (http://www.anerty.net/software/file/DriveSort/?lang=en)

Sorry, I'm somehow lost here.

*edit*

Tried also copying the files/folders to the sd card o my wifes laptop (with a built in sd slot). Same result.

Summing it up:

-2 different sd card readers
-2 different sd cards
-both cards formatted many times
-Sorted files with 2 different Windows (fat file/directory sorting) applications

= Does not work :(

I'm trying to copy the files in Ubuntu next, let's see...

Tried with 2 different sd cards, same result :(

and with the old version did you get the same problem ? :
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/SDCard_HxC_Floppy_Emulator_Manager.zip
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 19:40, 28 March 11
Quoteand with the old version did you get the same problem ? :

Sorry, Jeff for not testing that earlier...

With the older version (2.0) files/directories work as they should :) :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 20:07, 11 April 11
I tried the latest fw (1.6.0) and latest selector 2.1a. Unfortunately I still get the weird "every folder has the same files" -problem.

Is this a known problem?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 22:22, 11 April 11
Quote from: emuola on 20:07, 11 April 11
I tried the latest fw (1.6.0) and latest selector 2.1a. Unfortunately I still get the weird "every folder has the same files" -problem.

Is this a known problem?

mhh i don't reproduce the problem here.

Can you make a "dir /s /a >out.txt" of the sdcard in a command line shell and post here the "out.txt" file.
I need it to rebuild your sdcard folder tree.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 04:52, 12 April 11
Ok, here comes :)

Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 09:35, 12 April 11
Jeff, wouldn't it be nice to release a document with the various error codes?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 13:42, 12 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:35, 12 April 11
Jeff, wouldn't it be nice to release a document with the various error codes?

Which error code ?
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Gryzor on 13:50, 12 April 11
Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 13:42, 12 April 11
Which error code ?

All the errors we've seen, like the [64] or the one above... I don't know how many there are, but few or many, they'd make a great addition to the documentation...
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 15:45, 12 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:50, 12 April 11
All the errors we've seen, like the [64] or the one above... I don't know how many there are, but few or many, they'd make a great addition to the documentation...

This is a CPC error code.
I don't have the exact meaning.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 18:43, 12 April 11
Jeff, he meant this :



ret=Floprd((unsigned char*)&sector, floppydrive, 0, 255, 1 );
if(!ret)
{
dass=(direct_access_status_sector *)sector;
if(!strcmp(dass->DAHEADERSIGNATURE,"HxCFEDA"))
{
hxc_printf(FIRMWARE_VERSION_X_POS,FIRMWARE_VERSION_Y_POS,"- Firmware %s" ,dass->FIRMWAREVERSION);
return 1;
}


hxc_printf_box_error("Bad signature - HxC Floppy Emulator not found!");
}
hxc_printf_box_error("ERROR: Floppy Access error!  [%d]",ret);



hxc_printf_box_error function being a blocking one cf. never returns
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 19:25, 12 April 11
Quote from: norecess on 18:43, 12 April 11
Jeff, he meant this :



   ret=Floprd((unsigned char*)&sector, floppydrive, 0, 255, 1 );
   if(!ret)
   {
      dass=(direct_access_status_sector *)sector;
      if(!strcmp(dass->DAHEADERSIGNATURE,"HxCFEDA"))
      {
         hxc_printf(FIRMWARE_VERSION_X_POS,FIRMWARE_VERSION_Y_POS,"- Firmware %s" ,dass->FIRMWAREVERSION);
         return 1;
      }


      hxc_printf_box_error("Bad signature - HxC Floppy Emulator not found!");
   }
   hxc_printf_box_error("ERROR: Floppy Access error!  [%d]",ret);



hxc_printf_box_error function being a blocking one cf. never returns

Yes i know... but as i wrote the value in "ret" come from the Amstrad CPC OS (from the floppy read sector function ...) that's all...

Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 21:27, 12 April 11
Ah, ok. I can not help on my side too. Perhaps Kevin Thacker can? (arnoldemu)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: TFM on 22:54, 12 April 11
Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 19:25, 12 April 11
Yes i know... but as i wrote the value in "ret" come from the Amstrad CPC OS (from the floppy read sector function ...) that's all...

I wished I would have the time to make a FutureOS version out of it. That would omit some probs.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 22:29, 14 April 11
Quote from: emuola on 20:07, 11 April 11
I tried the latest fw (1.6.0) and latest selector 2.1a. Unfortunately I still get the weird "every folder has the same files" -problem.

Is this a known problem?

Good news: I finally found the source of the bug ..... into the SDCC compiler  ::) ...
Norecess will release the stable version of the file image selector very soon.  :)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 06:29, 15 April 11
Awesome work Jeff :) You rock \m/
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 14:16, 15 April 11
QuoteNorecess will release the stable version of the file image selector very soon.


Yeah it should be released during this week-end or in the very beginning of next week, it all depends about my available spare time versus family constraints  8)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: TFM on 18:56, 15 April 11
Quote from: Jeff_HxC2001 on 22:29, 14 April 11
Good news: I finally found the source of the bug ..... into the SDCC compiler  ::) ...

The worst case! But helps oneself to get thrust in the own code again :-)
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: norecess on 03:56, 16 April 11
Here we are : version 2.2 of the manager just got released ! http://www.norecess.net/hxc-floppy-emulator-manager.html
If you have issues with the version, please give your reports here.
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: emuola on 06:40, 16 April 11
Woohoo! With some initial tests I can confirm that now the files/folders are displayed correctly :D This is pure awesomeness ;) Thank you guys for your efforts!
Title: Re: HxC with 8GB SD card
Post by: Ynot.zer0 on 19:14, 16 April 11
I just installed the latest firmware* and tested HxC 2.2 and I must say it is "awesome"!


I have my HxC SDCard connected to my 6128+ as |B drive and the previous versions would not load for me, but this version works absolutely fine.  It is very fast and works a treat.  I am very happy - and would really advise others to upgrade or start with this version.


*Just to mention - I had to install the firmware from v1 and then upgrade to v1.6 (even though I had 1.3 installed) - after I did it from scratch, everything worked superbly.


Great job guys - very impressed, keep up the good work  8)


EDIT: One thing I did notice.... having the HxC SDCard as |B drive, if I kept a disc in the internal disc drive and run"HXC, it would error with an 'error [64]' message.  After ejecting the internal disc and retrying, the HxC2.2 initialises okay and everything works okay.  Was this just something I did wrong or is this a known issue?  (I confess I've not read all 8 pages of this thread to check)
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