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New CPC user get a CPC 6128 but having random charters in the screen

Started by Sebastian Blanco, 19:38, 23 June 16

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Sebastian Blanco

This is my first post here so i like to say hello to everybody :D .
Also this is my first contact on the cpc world i got a 6128 in pretty rought condition.
The keyboard have all the springs oxidised so y have to replace every spring on the keyboard but that is not the main trouble i have.
Using the computer and having no keyboard connected when i turn on the cpc got random charters typed on the screen this happen everytime i turn on the cpc.
I have done a small video showing this issue.


Thanks !

Bryce

Hi Sebastian,
            the AY-3-8912 (Sound chip and keyboard reader) is broken and needs to be changed.

Bryce.

||C|-|E||

It could also be possessed and trying to communicate something to the world, but this is less likely  :-X

keropi

Quote from: ||C|-|E|| on 10:45, 24 June 16
It could also be possessed and trying to communicate something to the world, but this is less likely  :-X


I just think it became sentient , OP please don't put it online and SkyNet the world  :laugh:

Gryzor


Sebastian Blanco

Great so i only have to replace the AY so no demonic possession, i was contacting the Vatican to get an exorcism already  :o .

||C|-|E||


Audronic

Quote from: Sebastian Blanco on 16:45, 24 June 16
Great so i only have to replace the AY so no demonic possession, i was contacting the Vatican to get an exorcism already  :o .
I see that this is your FIRST Member Post.

Welcome aboard, I like your humour even when the device is faulty
Please DON'T purchase a  AY-3-8912A  as they need pull-ups added.

Welcome

Ray
Procrastinators Unite,
If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

Bryce

Quote from: Sebastian Blanco on 16:45, 24 June 16
Great so i only have to replace the AY so no demonic possession, i was contacting the Vatican to get an exorcism already  :o .

AY-men to that! :) I see from your profile picture that you already have the "holy water" ready to go. :)

Bryce.

CraigsBar

Welcome @Sebastian Blanco. With the water and the humour you'll fit right in here ;)
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anyf33

My friend have same problem with 2 cpc's . And HE already  Bought a AY chip. So.what is your suggection? (My english in their limits :laugh:)

VincentGR

Quote from: anyf33 on 16:50, 26 June 16
My friend have same problem with 2 cpc's . And HE already  Bought a AY chip. So.what is your suggection? (My english in their limits :laugh: )


He did the right thing.


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Ελπίζω να πήρε και sockets έτσι?

Bryce

Quote from: anyf33 on 16:50, 26 June 16
My friend have same problem with 2 cpc's . And HE already  Bought a AY chip. So.what is your suggection? (My english in their limits :laugh: )

Did it solve the problem for him?

Bryce.

anyf33

Quote from: Audronic on 23:54, 24 June 16
I see that this is your FIRST Member Post.

Welcome aboard, I like your humour even when the device is faulty
Please DON'T purchase a  AY-3-8912A  as they need pull-ups added.

Welcome

Ray


actually this a question for this post. (why DONT purchase?)
And my friend is afraid to change the chip. and destroy the amstrad motherboard

[spoiler]
Ελπίζω να πήρε και sockets έτσι?
Sockets εχει . το θεμα ειναι πως θα το ξεκολλησει εκει κολλαει ο φιλος

Audronic


@anyf33
Put a request for somebody that lives near you to help with the removal & socketing of the AY chip.
Please tell the forum where you live (Country, Suburb), there maybe somebody around the corner who can help.


Good Luck     Ray
Procrastinators Unite,
If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

Bryce

Quote from: anyf33 on 22:17, 26 June 16

actually this a question for this post. (why DONT purchase?)
And my friend is afraid to change the chip. and destroy the amstrad motherboard

[spoiler]
Ελπίζω να πήρε και sockets έτσι?
Sockets εχει . το θεμα ειναι πως θα το ξεκολλησει εκει κολλαει ο φιλος
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There are two types: AY-3-8912 and AY-3-8912A
The CPC needs the non-A version.If you or your friend don't think you can safelyswap the AY, then send me the PCBs and I will repair them for you.

Bryce.

Sebastian Blanco

Thank very much for the welcome, and also i will take into account to not get the AY A variant.
:-*

TotO

For informations, I have bought some AY without "A" that require the external network resistor.  :-\
"You make one mistake in your life and the internet will never let you live it down" (Keith Goodyer)

gerald

Quote from: TotO on 19:35, 01 July 16
For informations, I have bought some AY without "A" that require the external network resistor.  :-\
Chinese get smart, they know that the without A version is more valuable, they just 'upgraded' their re-marking  ;D

TotO

Quote from: gerald on 19:57, 01 July 16
Chinese get smart, they know that the without A version is more valuable, they just 'upgraded' their re-marking  ;D
Exactly what I though.  ;D
"You make one mistake in your life and the internet will never let you live it down" (Keith Goodyer)

Sebastian Blanco

OK got the AY but have a problem is 40 pins and the original is a 28 pin one.
Tried to find one on ebay but all of them seem to be the 40 pin version.
Someone know where i can get one ?

Sebastian Blanco


Dagger

Cool, please keep updated as would like to know how you get on
Life's a bitch. You marry one or two then you die !

Sebastian Blanco

OK guys removed the old AY using the classic destruction method (cutting the legs and removing).
Managed to lift a track but soldered a wire jumper, soldered a brand new socket on it.
Inserted my new AY-3-8912 ----> 1pcs Programmable Sound Generator IC Sound Gi DIP 28 AY 3 8912 AY3 8912 | eBay
Now the bad news "for me" get crazy charters like before ....... not the same this time they seem to be less crazy i have done this video:
Picture after the Amstrad finish deleting and get stuck there.

Just for curiosity i turned on the beast and have the ay removed from the socket to see what happens and this is what i got, not the same:


Seem I'm out of luck on this also  :o

Audronic

@Sebastian Blanco

I looks like the IC 107  M4L8255AP-5  Is Faulty

Good luck  Ray

Edit :- Is the AY an "AY-3-8912" and NOT an "AY-3-8912A"
Procrastinators Unite,
If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

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