Author Topic: Please vote! Which Serial Interface of Network card do you have on CPC / Plus ?  (Read 718 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Hi there! Well, I'm thinking about generating a ROM for serial communication and networking. And of course I want to know what's on your wish-list.


Let me start with one question first: Which serial or networking devices do you own for your CPC / Plus computer(s)?

http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline VincentGR

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.040
  • Country: gr
    • Parts from the past.
  • Liked: 518
  • Likes Given: 1438
M4 but cannot run old software with this.
To blit, or not to blit?
Amiga 1200 Black Project

Offline robcfg

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 2.154
  • Country: se
  • 8-Bit Technomancer
    • index.php?action=treasury
  • Liked: 959
  • Likes Given: 2132
I have a M4 and an Amstrad serial interface (somewhere...).

Offline XeNoMoRPH

  • 464 Plus
  • *****
  • Posts: 425
  • Country: es
  • " ... in space no one , can hear you scream ... "
  • Liked: 815
  • Likes Given: 734

Offline LambdaMikel

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.444
  • Country: us
    • Homepage
  • Liked: 801
  • Likes Given: 564
Can we add LambdaSpeak 3 to this poll? Just for completeness  :)

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
I have a M4 and an Amstrad serial interface (somewhere...).
You can vote for both. Thanks!  :)


Can we add LambdaSpeak 3 to this poll? Just for completeness  :)

Of course! My apologies, but I forgot about this. It's evolving so quick. :)
« Last Edit: 18:21, 11 April 19 by GUNHED »
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline Maniac

  • CPC6128
  • ****
  • Posts: 178
  • Country: gb
  • Liked: 66
  • Likes Given: 26

Offline Fessor

  • CPC6128
  • ****
  • Posts: 189
  • Country: de
  • Liked: 150
  • Likes Given: 40
Albireo and Schneider RS232





Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
That's interesting results so far and we can already see tendencies. Please everybody else help voting!  :) :) :)
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Here are some tables I made, they may be of interest for you too.  :)




---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
Baudrates!Schneider!Amstrad!      !     ! old ! CPC ! Mini!
         ! Z80-STI !Z80-SIO!USIfAC! LS3 !Boost!Boos+!Boost!
---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
-     45 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-     50 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-     75 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-    110 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-   134,5!         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-    150 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-    200 !         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-    300 !    X    !   X   !   X  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-    600 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-   1200 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-   1800 !         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-   2000 !         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
-   2400 !    X    !   X   !   X  !  X  !  X  !  -  !  -  !
-   3600 !         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-   4800 !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-   7200 !         !   X   !   -  !  -  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
*   9600 ! -- X -- ! - X - ! - X -!- X -!- X -!- X -!- X -!
-  14400 !         !       !   -  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-  19200 !    X    !   X   !   X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-  28800 !         !       !   -  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-  38400 !    X    !       !   X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-  57600 !    -    !   -   !   X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
-  76800 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  X  !  -  !  X  !  X  !
- 115200 !    -    !   -   !   X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !  X  !
- 144000 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !  -  !
- 192000 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !  -  !
- 230400 !    -    !   -   !   X  !  -  !  -  !  X  !  X  !
- 250000 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  X  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
- 288000 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !  -  !
- 345600 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !
- 460800 !    -    !   -   !   X  !  -  !  -  !  X  !  X  !
- 576000 !    -    !   -   !   X  !  -  !  -  !  -  !  -  !
- 691200 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !
-1382400 !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !  -  !  X  !  -  !
---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+

-----------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  Parit├Ąt  !Schneider!Amstrad!      !     ! old ! CPC ! Mini!
Parity Type! Z80-STI !Z80-SIO!USIfAC! LS3 !Boost!Boos+!Boost!
-----------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
* Keine    !    X    !   X   !  ?X  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- Gerade   !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- Ungerade !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
-----------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+

---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
         !Schneider!Amstrad!      !     ! old ! CPC ! Mini!
Stop Bits! Z80-STI !Z80-SIO!USIfAC! LS3 !Boost!Boos+!Boost!
---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
* 1   Bit!    X    !   X   !  ?X  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- 1,5 Bit!    X    !   X   !   -  !  -  !     !  -  !     !
- 2   Bit!    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
-SyncMode!    X    !   ?   !   -  !  -  !     !  -  !     !
---------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+

--------------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
Bits / Zeichen!Schneider!Amstrad!      !     ! old ! CPC ! Mini!
Character Size! Z80-STI !Z80-SIO!USIfAC! LS3 !Boost!Boos+!Boost!
--------------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+
- 9 Bit       !    -    !   -   !   -  !  -  !     !  X  !     !
* 8 Bit       !    X    !   X   !  ?X  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- 7 Bit       !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- 6 Bit       !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
- 5 Bit       !    X    !   X   !   -  !  X  !     !  X  !     !
--------------+---------+-------+------+-----+-----+-----+-----+


http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline angelcaio

  • CPC664
  • ***
  • Posts: 104
  • Country: es
  • AMSTRAD CPC-464
  • Liked: 32
  • Likes Given: 21
A MiniBooster in a CPC464 tall keys and a M4 in a CPC472 english keyboard


Enviado desde mi iPad utilizando Tapatalk

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Everybody please vote! And thanks a lot to all the participants! Up to now the result is very interesting. Of course the M4 card sold over 500 time (IIRC), but the devices to be seen at 2nd and 3rd position are exciting too! Now, of course USIfAC and SF3 will catch up in the coming time I do assume. Let's see...  :) :) :)
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline teopl

  • CPC664
  • ***
  • Posts: 57
  • Country: cs
  • Liked: 26
  • Likes Given: 31
For network, I use the great M4 board! But is there any other option?

(Edit: I meant... any better option  :laugh: )
« Last Edit: 22:52, 16 April 19 by teopl »

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
For network, I use the great M4 board! But is there any other option?

(Edit: I meant... any better option  :laugh: )


That really depends what you want to do.
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline TotO

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 3.347
  • Country: fr
    • ?area=showdonations;u=4
  • Liked: 2555
  • Likes Given: 1497



The "4" caracter can be done using the "A" to better match with the Arkanoid style. ;)
"You make one mistake in your life and the internet will never let you live it down" (Keith Goodyer)

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Since we got a serious amount for Albireo... Haven't there been problems with serial communications? Are they fixed now? Where do I get the update? And... if the hardware problems are not fixed, are people to accept an software solution to work around?
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline LambdaMikel

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.444
  • Country: us
    • Homepage
  • Liked: 801
  • Likes Given: 564
... maybe add a checkbox to the poll "I actually used the serial port for something"  ;)

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Good idea, but somehow one can't change the vote after voting.
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)

Offline TynH

  • CPC664
  • ***
  • Posts: 94
  • Country: de
  • Liked: 12
  • Likes Given: 12
Could be worse...


Quote from: BBC
India voter 'chops off finger' after voting for wrong party

Offline LambdaMikel

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.444
  • Country: us
    • Homepage
  • Liked: 801
  • Likes Given: 564
Hi @GUNHED , please add the following new modes for LS 3.0:

Code: [Select]
  case 9 : UBRR0L = 10; SERIAL_RATE = 115200; break;  // 115200
  case 10 : UBRR0L = 5; SERIAL_RATE = 208333; break;  // 208333
  case 11 : UBRR0L = 4; SERIAL_RATE = 250000; break;  // 250000
  case 12 : UBRR0L = 3; SERIAL_RATE = 312500; break;  // 312500
  case 13 : UBRR0L = 2; SERIAL_RATE = 416667; break;  // 416667
  case 14 : UBRR0L = 1; SERIAL_RATE = 625000; break;  // 625000
  case 15 : UBRR0L = 0; SERIAL_RATE = 1250000; break;  // 1250000


I have tested that 115200 works like a charm with the PC; the other modi I haven't tested, but they should work as well. Problem with testing these is that I don't have a terminal program that can select these non-standard BAUD rates. The next standard BAUD rate seems to be 230400, but LS 3.0 can only generate 208333 or 250000, and both of them are too much off to work for 230400.   

However, everything above 115200 is kind of overkill anyhow for the CPC. But it would be good to have them in the table.

Does anybody know of a terminal program / FTDI cable that has more flexibiliy in these > 115200 BAUD rates? I guess that also depends on the hardware a bit.

EDIT - Actually, RealTerm can do arbitrary BAUD rates! So I tried the higher rates. But everything > 115200 gives some currupted characters.... so I these modi are of theoretical interest mainly.

EDIT2 - Modi over 115200 are unlikely to be supported by FTDI chips I just read. Here is a quote I found:

Quote
But most of the USB serial ports will work with any baud rates (FTDI232-based at least) provided that the level shifter can follow the speed - it could be that they used an el cheapo tranceiver which would work only up to 125kbps reliably. But just try it and measure with an oscilloscope or take the USB serial port apart and google for the datasheets. My USB serial port is translucent, so I can see the FTDI and Maxim part numbers.
« Last Edit: 03:57, 21 April 19 by LambdaMikel »

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 1.250
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
  • Liked: 700
  • Likes Given: 1520
Thanks! Will be added.  :)
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Recent update: 2019.08.07)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2019.08.14)