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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #150 on: 14:30, 17 January 15 »
Okay. There are couple of things I need to get done on the beat em up this weekend to send off, but I now need to start thinking seriously about the sound effects and music for the game. I would like to see if it's possible to have the title and menu screen using this SID tracker. I will attempt again.

I did have a look at the manual the last time I loaded the tracker, but I remember looking at the screen and not knowing what to do as it doesn't yet have a graphical interface.*

Winape has a snapshot function.



*Just to let you know that I am not complaining, I just found it tricky to use.

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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #151 on: 19:05, 17 January 15 »
Okay. There are couple of things I need to get done on the beat em up this weekend to send off, but I now need to start thinking seriously about the sound effects and music for the game. I would like to see if it's possible to have the title and menu screen using this SID tracker. I will attempt again.

That's good news! :) But I think quite some work needs to be done before it can be used stand-alone / as part of another prod. Mostly because there's no compiler yet which could convert from the not yet available AYAY song file format to a raw player. A lot of things related to this are just not yet written or even defined. So you're more than welcome to throw your ideas, requirements, suggestions and we'll how we can get this to work.

I did have a look at the manual the last time I loaded the tracker, but I remember looking at the screen and not knowing what to do as it doesn't yet have a graphical interface.*

*Just to let you know that I am not complaining, I just found it tricky to use.

Yes, I know, it's indeed tricky. It took me quite some time to make the demo tunes which I uploaded here because the work flow is still incomplete. I think I have to put some more work into that before uploading a new version or generally offering it as a useful tool. But in the meantime let me hear what was specifically tricky for you so I maybe can prioritize the improvements needed.
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #152 on: 20:55, 17 January 15 »
Just another small demo (which was part of one of the snapshots I uploaded a while ago) so you all can have a listen and refresh your memory as to how awesome AYAY Kaeppttn sounds ;-)


https://soundcloud.com/carl-carbunckel/sid4

It features a 3 channel AY tune and additionally a sinus sid effect which is achieved by modulating the main voice (channel B) with a wave track which plays the same notes. 
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #153 on: 01:41, 18 January 15 »
WoW! Awesome!  :)  SID effects and AY!  :)  Great!  :)
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #154 on: 04:20, 18 January 15 »
@BSC : As i write you "excellent as always!"
One question :
I remember earing your street fighter 2 soundtracker conversion in euromeeting 3.
Where can i download this peace of art ?




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If you have to add something in AYAY, think about Playcity format and 6 channels. I believe more people would be interested. It's just an idea, No more...
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #155 on: 14:22, 18 January 15 »
@BSC : As i write you "excellent as always!"
One question :
I remember earing your street fighter 2 soundtracker conversion in euromeeting 3.
Where can i download this peace of art ?

Thank you :) I don't know where you can download the tune, but I have dsk files where that
tune should be a part of. I can have a look if you want to have it :) BTW: I think I made 2
SF2 tunes. Chun Li stage and the tune that was playing when you finished the game.
Which is the one you want?

If you have to add something in AYAY, think about Playcity format and 6 channels. I believe more people would be interested. It's just an idea, No more...

PlayCity or any support for hardware add-ons in general could be done in the future, but for now I think it's more important to have a complete tracker / compiler for the unmodified CPC series. So let's see what the far far away future will bring :)
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #156 on: 15:12, 18 January 15 »
Thank you :) I don't know where you can download the tune, but I have dsk files where that
tune should be a part of. I can have a look if you want to have it :) BTW: I think I made 2
SF2 tunes. Chun Li stage and the tune that was playing when you finished the game.
Which is the one you want?


If i can have the two ones, it's all rights for me  :laugh:
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PlayCity or any support for hardware add-ons in general could be done in the future, but for now I think it's more important to have a complete tracker / compiler for the unmodified CPC series. So let's see what the far far away future will bring :)


I was just thinking about TFM 's need (remember Great Giana Sisters' 4 channels tune)
And McKlain who wants to know which  Cpc soundtracker he could use to compose this tune...
So... People may ask this feature.
But, i let you do what you have to do. Take all the time you need...
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #157 on: 21:59, 18 January 15 »
If i can have the two ones, it's all rights for me  :laugh:
My email adress : ast49152 at gmail dot com

Mail is on the way..

I was just thinking about TFM 's need (remember Great Giana Sisters' 4 channels tune)
And McKlain who wants to know which  Cpc soundtracker he could use to compose this tune...
So... People may ask this feature.
But, i let you do what you have to do. Take all the time you need...

Yes, but I honestly struggle to comprehend the fuss about yet another hardware add-on and besides - the sources
are freely available, so anyone could make a PlayCity or whatever compatible version..
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #158 on: 22:05, 18 January 15 »
That's ok for me... Mail received. ;D
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #159 on: 00:51, 19 January 15 »
Right, the wheel doesn't have to be invented again  :)  Making SID effects is imho way more hard than getting AY / PlayCity support. The good thing about PlayCity is that it is even more easy to program than the AY. So any AY player can be patched for it. Only problem is . ... like usually.. where to take the time from.  :)
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #160 on: 01:34, 19 January 15 »
That's good news! :) But I think quite some work needs to be done before it can be used stand-alone / as part of another prod. Mostly because there's no compiler yet which could convert from the not yet available AYAY song file format to a raw player. A lot of things related to this are just not yet written or even defined. So you're more than welcome to throw your ideas, requirements, suggestions and we'll how we can get this to work.

Yes, I know, it's indeed tricky. It took me quite some time to make the demo tunes which I uploaded here because the work flow is still incomplete. I think I have to put some more work into that before uploading a new version or generally offering it as a useful tool. But in the meantime let me hear what was specifically tricky for you so I maybe can prioritize the improvements needed.

I will be giving it another go sometime next week. I'll probably start something simple like a looping drum beat.

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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #161 on: 09:43, 19 January 15 »
I think that you can't make drums yet on this version of the tracker. @BSC , correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #162 on: 12:00, 19 January 15 »
I think that you can't make drums yet on this version of the tracker. @BSC , correct me if I'm wrong.

I see. I'll try and copy a piece of music that's already out there instead.


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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #163 on: 22:37, 21 January 15 »
I think that you can't make drums yet on this version of the tracker. @BSC , correct me if I'm wrong.

I must admit that I don't know out of my head. Noise support is only partly supported right now
so you are right insofar as drums including noise are not possible.
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Re: SID tracker / player on CPC (non plus)
« Reply #164 on: 22:38, 21 January 15 »
By tha way: I am thinking about a Soundtrakker to AYAY converter, so there's a bit more to play around with for everyone :)

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