Author Topic: SymbOS CPC updates and infos (Read 21584 times)

Edoz(MSX) · « **Reply #125 on:** 11:59, 30 November 16 »

Very cool to see it on the Enterprise machine like this!

Joseman · « **Reply #126 on:** 17:55, 21 December 16 »

Hi @Prodatron

I've problems with 2 CPC's with a M4 and the last version of symirc (1.23112016).

All goes well, but when the screensaver comes, the CPC freezes, it happened with 2 different CPC and 2 different m4 boards (they were on the same irc channel, both m4 online at the same time.

regards!

Prodatron · « **Reply #127 on:** 18:24, 21 December 16 »

Hi Joseman,

will try to reproduce it this evening. Does it happen immediately when the screensaver is starting or just after a while?

Joseman · « **Reply #128 on:** 18:27, 21 December 16 »

Quote from: Prodatron on 18:24, 21 December 16

Hi Joseman,

will try to reproduce it this evening. Does it happen immediately when the screensaver is starting or just after a while?

to be honest i don't know, i leaved the room and when i came it was freezed, but i think that is inmediately or 1-5 minutes...

HAL 6128 · « **Reply #129 on:** 19:07, 21 December 16 »

The same to mine. I realized this behavior only when SymIrc is connected.

Prodatron · « **Reply #130 on:** 20:48, 21 December 16 »

I made some tests, and it seems, that it's the combination of the M4Board-based Network Daemon and the 3D Starfield Screen Saver.
It is crashing after a while after the screen saver has been started. This also happens within a Telnet session, so it's not syMIRC related.
The screen saver is using screen MODE 0, and the M4Board requires upper rom access (rom and screen mode switching use the same register), so maybe there is still a conflict sometimes, I will check this...

Rennert · « **Reply #131 on:** 17:31, 31 December 16 »

Hi, I have tested the package on my M4

It works fine. But some questions: works real websites on Symzilla? No connections, but wget works fine.
I can't set date&time, test it with and wihout CPC RTC, time is only 00:00
How can i set the weather widget?

Thx and a happy New year

dimdim80 · « **Reply #132 on:** 01:01, 07 February 17 »

Hello ,could someone pls tell where i can purchase this MX4 Board card and memory and symbos?
Thanks.

genesis8 · « **Reply #133 on:** 09:41, 07 February 17 »

Symbos is free, see the banner at Prodatron's signature 2 messages before yours for the link.

For the wifi card, just ask in PM to duke, which reminds me that I must reply to him about my order o.O

rpalmer · « **Reply #134 on:** 12:34, 07 February 17 »

Quote from: dimdim80 on 01:01, 07 February 17

Hello ,could someone pls tell where i can purchase this MX4 Board card and memory and symbos?
Thanks.

Memory expansions are no longer available from Cent Pour Cent as TotO is no longer building them as far as I know.

Rpalmer

XeNoMoRPH · « **Reply #135 on:** 20:20, 11 March 17 »

Hi , I have recently buying an M4 Board .. and i'm testing SymbOS ... but i'm only have a 128k RAM on my CPC6128 , so i can't run Daemon Network & SymBOS IRC Client ... Memory Full ... is there any solution .. ? thx

Skunkfish · « **Reply #136 on:** 19:56, 12 March 17 »

Some advice from the SymbOS site:

Quote

Please note, that on a 128K system there is only about 33KB (CPC)/44KB (MSX) memory available for applications, as the operating system already requires about 79K (+16K video ram). 33KB/44KB is enough to run most existing application, but you will need to deactivate the desktop background graphic, the screen saver and the SymbOS extensions, as these require additional memory and would shrink the free memory down a lot.[/size][/font][/size]

XeNoMoRPH · « **Reply #137 on:** 21:41, 12 March 17 »

Quote from: Skunkfish on 19:56, 12 March 17

Some advice from the SymbOS site:

Ok , thx , Desktop background is off , SymbOS extensions too , i think that screen saver is ON .. i will try to deactivate this

EDIT: not works .. i need more RAM ..

Takis Kalatzis · « **Reply #138 on:** 10:45, 13 March 17 »

Hello,

From previous communications I had with Prodatron (I too have an 6128 with M4 board), the feedback was that there is no way to run the Network Daemon and IRC client without a memory expansion. I guess 128K are not enough for this, whatever backgrounds/screensavers you may deactivate.

Best regards,

Takis

XeNoMoRPH · « **Reply #139 on:** 12:00, 13 March 17 »

Quote from: Takis Kalatzis on 10:45, 13 March 17

Hello,

From previous communications I had with Prodatron (I too have an 6128 with M4 board), the feedback was that there is no way to run the Network Daemon and IRC client without a memory expansion. I guess 128K are not enough for this, whatever backgrounds/screensavers you may deactivate.

Best regards,

Takis

That's true ... and in this moment .. it's nos possible to buy Memory Upgrade for Amstrad ,, because http://www.centpourcent.net/ it's closed

KaosOverride · « **Reply #140 on:** 15:04, 13 March 17 »

@Prodatron, looks like with all this expansions supporting almost romboard emulation if may be possible that SymbOS code could be run directly from ROM slots to free 16 or 32kb. I know that this could mean rearrange lot of code, but whe can gain precious free ram…

Edoz(MSX) · « **Reply #141 on:** 12:12, 22 March 17 »

Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 20:20, 11 March 17

Hi , I have recently buying an M4 Board .. and i'm testing SymbOS ... but i'm only have a 128k RAM on my CPC6128 , so i can't run Daemon Network & SymBOS IRC Client ... Memory Full ... is there any solution .. ? thx

No i'm sorry. You need to have a memory expansion for symIRC. Other bennift of memory is that you can open multiple applications as well

I'm sure you will be happy then

number-one · « **Reply #142 on:** 15:03, 29 April 17 »

Quote from: Joseman on 17:55, 21 December 16

I've problems with 2 CPC's with a M4 and the last version of symirc (1.23112016).

Hello, where have you downloaded this version of symirc ?

I have SYMBOS 3.0 CPC - RC1 16/11/14 and symirc V1.0
I have CPC 6128 with the M4 (M4FIRM_v203b2) and X-Mem Boards (READ ROM jumper NO position).

Where I can find the last symbos user manual ?

How can I format a floppy disk ?

The wget command crash symbos.

Symzilla cant't find the server at http://www.symbos.de.

Edoz(MSX) · « **Reply #143 on:** 11:02, 01 May 17 »

Quote from: number-one on 15:03, 29 April 17

Hello, where have you downloaded this version of symirc ?

I have SYMBOS 3.0 CPC - RC1 16/11/14 and symirc V1.0
I have CPC 6128 with the M4 (M4FIRM_v203b2) and X-Mem Boards (READ ROM jumper NO position).

Where I can find the last symbos user manual ?

How can I format a floppy disk ?

The wget command crash symbos.

Symzilla cant't find the server at http://www.symbos.de.

Hi Number one:
Documentation can be found here:

http://members.home.nl/evanzanten/msxorg/SymbOS%203%20install%20user%20and%20install%20guide.pdf

About the crash, are you sure the M4 has the last firmware installed? In previous versions it has this problem. Probably if you update to the last release of the M4 it will solve the issue.
Symzilla is still a beta version, which only allow DOX browsing. But you cannot use it online at the moment. (This is something which needs to be created first)
Formating a disk is not supported by SymbOS. Use windows, or CPC AmsDos util for this.

Joseman · « **Reply #144 on:** 00:17, 02 May 17 »

Quote from: number-one on 15:03, 29 April 17

Hello, where have you downloaded this version of symirc ?

I have SYMBOS 3.0 CPC - RC1 16/11/14 and symirc V1.0
I have CPC 6128 with the M4 (M4FIRM_v203b2) and X-Mem Boards (READ ROM jumper NO position).

Where I can find the last symbos user manual ?

How can I format a floppy disk ?

The wget command crash symbos.

Symzilla cant't find the server at http://www.symbos.de.

Hi, the last version of symirc is on this site:

http://members.home.nl/evanzanten/appstore/

rpalmer · « **Reply #145 on:** 02:01, 02 May 17 »

Quote from: number-one on 15:03, 29 April 17

Symzilla cant't find the server at http://www.symbos.de

As far as i can tell, the reason symzilla cannot access web sites is that there is no 'web server' in symbos. No web server support means symzilla is left only accessing local files.

While symzilla is capable of displaying DOX files, there is only a small amount of support for this format. The overwhelming support is HTML along with Java, Javascript, silverlight, swift and so on. To handle HTML is very taxing on memory resources and would be slow at best (I should know as i created a HTML processor for the CPC and it requires alot of memory of the order of 256 - 512 K bytes and this is for a standalone program).

rpalmer

msmthng · « **Reply #146 on:** 22:09, 02 October 17 »

Hi, is it possible to use the same HD for BDOS and SymbOS?

HAL 6128 · « **Reply #147 on:** 22:41, 02 October 17 »

No, but there's a BDOS version (1.69 I think) with different system drivers, where you can use two drives (master/slave mode). If I remember right then BDOS should be on the master and SymbOS on the slave or vice versa, not sure, never tried it.

Prodatron · « **Reply #148 on:** 23:09, 02 October 17 »

Bdos is using an own proprietary filesystem, which isnt compatible with any usual FS. Iirc the version which supported two partitions based on an mbr allowed the first partition to be fat16/32 and the second for bdos.

number-one · « **Reply #149 on:** 15:25, 09 December 17 »

Hello, I have a machine running Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa on my local network.
I have setup telnet server successfully with this tuto.

With putty telnet client on Windows I can remote access to Linux.

But with telnet on symshell I have these strange characters.
(see the pictures attached)

My goal displaying cryptocurrencies prices on my CPC with coinmon.

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