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CPCtelera subforum?
« on: 09:16, 05 September 17 »
Hello!


I was asked (outside the wiki) if I could create a dedicated CPCtelera forum here, so I'd like to put the idea forward... everyone, let me know if you'd be interested!

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #1 on: 12:05, 05 September 17 »
I really like CPCtelera. It was a real joy working with it when developing Space Rivals. So I would like a subforum.

However, it's difficult to make a subforum for one framework and not the other. Creating one for CPCtelera would no doubt make other people feel overlooked.

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #2 on: 12:14, 05 September 17 »
Well, it depends on how popular each framework is at a given moment. If people deem that a specific one is popular one right now so that it would merit its own discussions, support etc etc, I don't see why others would feel overlooked. Whatever works...

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #3 on: 12:29, 05 September 17 »
I don't see why others would feel overlooked.

That authors of other frameworks who are also visiting this forum might feel overlooked. "Why does CPCtelera get a subforum when my framework doesn't?"
Next comes the people who are using those frameworks.

Just stating. As I said, I really like CPCtelera and would like a subforum. I'm not personally using any other CPC frameworks or game-creation tools.

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #4 on: 12:34, 05 September 17 »
But that's not a problem. CPCWiki is not promoting the platform through the forum (we may promote stuff on the home page or maybe pin a post or two to help push a project, but we will do that for anyone and everyone who has something worthwhile), it's just responding to the needs of the users. If a platform, *any* platform, is popular enough that discussions need to be more organised, we'll do it...

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #5 on: 12:37, 05 September 17 »
Slippery slope. I'm with mr_lou on this one. Give one person/product a subforum and you'll be bombarded with further requests for anything that gets heavily discussed. Besides, there's already a forum on Github for CPCtelera.

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #6 on: 12:38, 05 September 17 »
If a platform, *any* platform, is popular enough that discussions need to be more organised, we'll do it...

I understand that. But "popular enough" will always be a question of definition. ;-)

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #7 on: 12:47, 05 September 17 »
Slippery slope. I'm with mr_lou on this one. Give one person/product a subforum and you'll be bombarded with further requests for anything that gets heavily discussed. Besides, there's already a forum on Github for CPCtelera.


How many platforms are there that this could cause a problem though? As for Github, well, the way I see it is, serve people however it's best, not tell them "go to Github", or "go to that other forum"...




I understand that. But "popular enough" will always be a question of definition. ;-)
   


Sure enough. But we're pretty laid back that we don't need to have an absoluter cut-off point, do we?

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #8 on: 13:08, 05 September 17 »
I didn't mean just platforms... M4, CPCWifi and other heavily discussed products could also be possible subforum candidates.

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #9 on: 13:12, 05 September 17 »
As Bryce says, I think that it could be a bit messy, since we would probably end having subforums for many different tools and products. This is not inherently bad, not at all, but much more difficult to maintain and control  :) .

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #10 on: 13:19, 05 September 17 »
I thought it was a good idea, which is why I "like" @Gryzor's initial post. Why "Like" that post and be skeptical @mr_lou ???

The "Popular Enough" problem could be resolved if the Sub-forum was called "Cross Compilers" which would include SDCC, Z88DK, ccz80, CPC BASIC 3, though much of that is already in the Programming Section and would be a nightmare moving to a sub-forum.   :'(

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #11 on: 14:00, 05 September 17 »
A nightmare it would not be if people helped a bit, moving threads is very easy!

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #12 on: 14:03, 05 September 17 »
I didn't mean just platforms... M4, CPCWifi and other heavily discussed products could also be possible subforum candidates.

Bryce.
As Bryce says, I think that it could be a bit messy, since we would probably end having subforums for many different tools and products. This is not inherently bad, not at all, but much more difficult to maintain and control  :) .
   


Ok, that makes a bit more sense now.


Let's take a step back and ask people: why would you want a sub-forum on a specific product? Let's see what comes out and how to satisfy the need...

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #13 on: 15:34, 05 September 17 »
I thought it was a good idea, which is why I "like" @Gryzor's initial post. Why "Like" that post and be skeptical @mr_lou ???




Skeptical?
For the 3rd time, I like the idea about a CPCtelera subforum.
Just tried to give a heads up too.
That's not skeptism. Just sharing thoughts.

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #14 on: 19:56, 05 September 17 »
Slippery slope. I'm with mr_lou on this one. Give one person/product a subforum and you'll be bombarded with further requests for anything that gets heavily discussed. Besides, there's already a forum on Github for CPCtelera.

Bryce.

Where?  I can't find it.

I was the one asking for a subforum as a way of collecting all previous and future threads here about it in one handy lil place for people folk like me who are trying to get to grips with CPCtelera and want to browse the topics or search through them for a possible solution to a problem.
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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #15 on: 20:02, 05 September 17 »
If it's just for one product, why not give it it's own thread in Hardware and sticky/pin it? It's not like each product is likely to generate a massive load of threads to start with anyway, surely?

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #16 on: 20:05, 05 September 17 »
If it's just for one product, why not give it it's own thread in Hardware and sticky/pin it? It's not like each product is likely to generate a massive load of threads to start with anyway, surely?

Just one thread for a programming tool that can have a lot of very specific queries and could get very messy if a new person asks about a previous query that needs more answering while other people are discussing a newer one.
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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #17 on: 22:18, 05 September 17 »
Why not, it would be a lot of easier to find specifically information to cpctelera.
« Last Edit: 22:22, 05 September 17 by Arnaud »

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #18 on: 10:07, 06 September 17 »
Where?  I can't find it.

I was the one asking for a subforum as a way of collecting all previous and future threads here about it in one handy lil place for people folk like me who are trying to get to grips with CPCtelera and want to browse the topics or search through them for a possible solution to a problem.

https://github.com/lronaldo/cpctelera/issues

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #19 on: 10:12, 06 September 17 »



Skeptical?
For the 3rd time, I like the idea about a CPCtelera subforum.
Just tried to give a heads up too.
That's not skeptism. Just sharing thoughts.


No it isn't skepticism, I got confused, sorry!  :-[



A nightmare it would not be if people helped a bit, moving threads is very easy!


Perhaps, I just thought it maybe tricky in tracking down all those threads.  8)
« Last Edit: 10:15, 06 September 17 by AMSDOS »

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #20 on: 10:40, 06 September 17 »
Ok, here's another thought: what if we, indeed, created a subforum for each major and/or popular product? Truth be told, I find it quite chaotic to have to go through the wifi thread to find a piece of info, whereas it could have its own subforum, tucked away nicely below the main HW forum...

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #21 on: 11:31, 06 September 17 »
Maybe put them as subforums under the programming section?


Programming
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+- CPCTelera
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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #22 on: 11:39, 06 September 17 »
In this case, that's what I was thinking. Bryce does have a valid point as to where does it stop; but maybe we could/should consider/count how many such subfora would need to be created? How many projects would warrant their own subforum?

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Re: CPCtelera subforum?
« Reply #23 on: 12:36, 06 September 17 »
Github issues aren't a forum, they're a bug tracker. It's a real pain for a maintainer when users abuse them; you either get your bug reports buried in a pile of "help me" or you spend forever pruning the thing.


I think adding subforums is preferable to the existing 100+ page threads for things, but that's just me. And realistically, how many major projects are there here? If we hit five, we're doing well.