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Offline Hicks

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Re: History of Amstrad CPC Demomaking
« Reply #50 on: 23:37, 17 September 18 »
Shame would be especially to only have one point of view on history. That's why there is all these interviews, and we see that some guys in the past have cheated history in their advantage, because they could express themselves a lot...

About chronology. What is important is release date, I think that everybody will agree with that. Intermediate version dates are unverifiable... Maybe NWC make a first version of Final Creation in the end of 1987, who knows?

In short, it quite amusing to see someone, 25 years later, trying to prove against all evidence that he is the first to do that or that... But don't worry Longshot, you are still the recordman of the most arrogant scrolltext in demos  ;D

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Re: History of Amstrad CPC Demomaking
« Reply #51 on: 20:09, 18 September 18 »
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In short, it quite amusing to see someone, 25 years later, trying to prove against all evidence that he is the first to do that or that...
No need to go back 25 years (30, actually) to find people screeching to get recognized as being the first to do this or that—see for example http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=61177  ;D

In the era of Internet (and post-truth), it would really be a pity if some guys were to cheat history to their advantage because they express themselves a lot.


Just because I don’t have the earliest versions of The Demo anymore doesn’t mean that they weren’t released.


I rest my case.
 
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Re: History of Amstrad CPC Demomaking
« Reply #52 on: 20:58, 18 September 18 »
Eitherway, NWC and Longshot are both the legends of early CPC demo making :)
- I think both developed their hardscrolling, splitrasters and split techniques etc. independly at about the same time. In the early days there weren't many foreign demos going around here (in Denmark) and the Danish demos probably didn't spread  abroad as well.
For historical purposes I would say the release date written in the demos, should count to be fair. Probably nobody cares, but back then it was so cool :)

@Hicks, thanks for doing the interviews, it's a pleasure to read.

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Re: History of Amstrad CPC Demomaking
« Reply #53 on: 21:08, 18 September 18 »
No need to go back 25 years (30, actually) to find people screeching to get recognized as being the first to do this or that—see for example http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=61177  ;D

Actually Still Rising was finished in 1987 but before releasing it, Hicks asked me to translate the scroll text to english. Because of my lazyness, it was finally officially released in 2013...

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Re: History of Amstrad CPC Demomaking
« Reply #54 on: 21:43, 23 September 18 »
@Duke: Thanks for your feedback  ;) I'm sorry for french only interview but we are still searching for a translator...

It's usefull to make serious history about CPC demoscene because fake informations are frequents. For example, Longshot claim himself on Demozoo that Amazing Demo has been released in September 1989 instead of the real date, December 1989 or January 1990. See for example:
- the first screen of this page: http://cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=7668 (developped from October to December 1989)
- this interview: https://cpcrulez.fr/demosceneIN_logon_system.htm (Amazing wasn't finished in December 1989)
- this page: http://cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&onglet=dumps&num=7668 (Longshot himself wrote a message on the Amazing disk, dated from the 10.01.1990).

The same fake dates on Logon Demo 1 and 2: it's not march 1988 but december 1988 (https://demozoo.org/groups/46351)
The most comical thing is that Longshot was the one who accuse NWC to cheat his release dates  :) :) :)