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Hello guys!


Seeing the results here  (http://www.homebrewlegends.com/)I thought I'd run the same poll here at the forum and see what people say...


So, best game of the year?


I don't usually do polls, especially "best" ones, but I thought I'd see if and how community opinion differs...

I've not voted yet ,I need to try them before deciding  not played them all 

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Tough call, it has been a really great year for new CPC releases.

Couldn't agree more...

Shadow of Sergoth is my favourite this year. ;)

Quote from: Gryzor on 17:34, 26 December 18
Hello guys!


Seeing the results here  (http://www.homebrewlegends.com/)I thought I'd run the same poll here at the forum and see what people say...


So, best game of the year?


I don't usually do polls, especially "best" ones, but I thought I'd see if and how community opinion differs...

"Best Amstrad CPC 464 Game of 2018?"; Shadows of Sergoth is 128K only, isn't it? :D Also they're missing games that should be in the list (IMHO).

I haven't played all games released this year. but to make this fair, I would say that any game listed in CPC Power under 2018 AND game should be in the list.

That can be a lengthy poll, perhaps we can put something on Google forms or similar; but online polls are easy to game, so may be using CPC Wiki forum polls is best.

Or just shout your fav game this year and Gryzor can count votes.

I'm bad deciding favorites, but I think Op Alexandra is my candidate for this year (I'm not going to say Kernel  :P).

Would everyone please vote on Homebrew Legends too? Want to get this sites input on the results.
Cheers

There isn't Deeper Warrens!! Such a crime :).

Quote from: reidrac on 09:58, 27 December 18
"Best Amstrad CPC 464 Game of 2018?"; Shadows of Sergoth is 128K only, isn't it? :D Also they're missing games that should be in the list (IMHO).

May be the topic title should be: "Best Amstrad CPC game of 2018" ? Because, I'm not sure that every listed games exist on TAPE too!?  :-\
By the way, most 464/664 users own today a RAM expansion and a DDI interface to properly run them, if not on emulators.

Shadows of Sergoth is the more polished, probably because it doesn't came from the RetroDev contest and took some years to be produced.
I have liked Deeper Warrens and it is sad to be not listed here as I have more enjoyed it than Operation Alexandra or Jarlac (both requiring extra time to polish the gameplay).

Quote from: TotO on 10:33, 28 December 18
I have liked Deeper Warrens and it is sad to be not listed here as I have more enjoyed it than Operation Alexandra or Jarlac (both requiring extra time to polish the gameplay).

Quote from: Targhan on 05:07, 28 December 18
There isn't Deeper Warrens!! Such a crime :) .

Thanks a lot guys  :D

Quote from: TotO on 10:33, 28 December 18
May be the topic title should be: "Best Amstrad CPC game of 2018" ? Because, I'm not sure that every listed games exist on TAPE too!?  :-\
By the way, most 464/664 users own today a RAM expansion and a DDI interface to properly run them, if not on emulators.

Shadows of Sergoth is the more polished, probably because it doesn't came from the RetroDev contest and took some years to be produced.
I have liked Deeper Warrens and it is sad to be not listed here as I have more enjoyed it than Operation Alexandra or Jarlac (both requiring extra time to polish the gameplay).

Dawn of Kernel is not a CPC Retro Dev game and it is very polished. What do you mean exactly?  :P

Quote from: reidrac on 12:36, 28 December 18
Dawn of Kernel is not a CPC Retro Dev game and it is very polished. What do you mean exactly?  :P

I don't think my sentence said that.  ;D
I have prefered The Shadows of Sergoth on the list as it is more polished (and original) than CPC Retrodev games like Operation Alexandra or Jarlac.

EDIT:
I would like to said that peoples showing promissing games on Retrodev will have better to take the time to rework on the gameplay and gamedesign next.
For me: Shadows of Sergoth >> Dawn of Kernel (not retrodev) or Operation Alexandra (graphics and sound don't made a good game, it is just extra things to be AAA)

Quote from: TotO on 13:41, 28 December 18
For me: Shadows of Sergoth >> Dawn of Kernel (not retrodev) or Operation Alexandra (graphics and sound don't made a good game, it is just extra things to be AAA)

I enjoyed Kernel and Alexandra.  Both really playable (the great graphics and sound are a bonus).  I didn't really care for Sergoth.  It was very well made but I've never liked that kind of game myself so quickly bored.

Quote from: TotO on 10:33, 28 December 18
May be the topic title should be: "Best Amstrad CPC game of 2018" ? Because, I'm not sure that every listed games exist on TAPE too!?  :-\
By the way, most 464/664 users own today a RAM expansion and a DDI interface to properly run them, if not on emulators.

Shadows of Sergoth is the more polished, probably because it doesn't came from the RetroDev contest and took some years to be produced.
I have liked Deeper Warrens and it is sad to be not listed here as I have more enjoyed it than Operation Alexandra or Jarlac (both requiring extra time to polish the gameplay).

I was joking :)

It is true that there are some bits that help making an exceptional game, like graphics and sound, but your GOTY is mostly a matter of personal preference.

I didn't get hooked to any of the games released this year, but some of them were enjoyable in short sessions (e.g. Operation Alexandra).

Quote from: Carnivius on 17:42, 28 December 18I enjoyed Kernel and Alexandra.  Both really playable (the great graphics and sound are a bonus).  I didn't really care for Sergoth.  It was very well made but I've never liked that kind of game myself so quickly bored.

The Alexandra's player moves, the lack of ennemies variety and originality (blobs???) and the bad idea to have to fire at mid-jump to hit them is problematic for me. By the way, the graphics and music are really greats! About Kernel, it is a fun Cybernoid-Like game to play, with a good ship physic but not enough ennemies and weapons variety into the different areas to be a hit.

Quote from: TotO on 13:41, 28 December 18
I would like to said that peoples showing promissing games on Retrodev will have better to take the time to rework on the gameplay and gamedesign next.

@cngsoft (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=191) has done this with his entry, The Adventures of Timothy Gunn (http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/timmygun.htm) (version 5 is the current one at the time of writing).

Quote from: Nich on 21:38, 28 December 18
@cngsoft (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=191) has done this with his entry, The Adventures of Timothy Gunn (http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/timmygun.htm) (version 5 is the current one at the time of writing).

Exactly! (that remember me to ask him to swap the bass and melody channels to no more cut the theme while the player shoot at enemies)

Quote from: tjohnson on 19:12, 26 December 18I've not voted yet ,I need to try them before deciding  not played them all

Same for me. Simply haven't had time to play all the new CPC games yet.

And now it's getting a little bit embarrassing, since I got a C64 mini for Christmas, which I then of course have been playing!  :'(

Well let's see. Christmas holidays aren't over yet.  :)

Alright! So I went ahead and played some of the new games today!  :)

Though I've only tried the games briefly, I'm not in doubt. My vote for CPC GOTY goes to "Operation Alexandra".

Awesome graphics, great music that fits really well, and a catchy gameplay. It is rare to see all of these 3 parts having such high quality in one game, and it of course gives an awesome experience.
I know I'll probably be mocked for this, but: It is partly the small details, like the small pause when landing on your feet after a jump, that makes the difference. And it's great when it's not too difficult and not too easy.

I know I'll be playing "Operation Alexandra" a lot more in the near future. Looks like just the kind of game that suits "the CPC Christmas holidays"  :)

I'll of course also return to some of the other games. "Shadows of Sergoth" looks great and plays nicely. It's not my preferred genre, but it definitely deserves a much higher score than what it has received on Homebrew Legends (http://www.homebrewlegends.com/).

The other games are of course also great, but "Operation Alexandra" just has "the touch", so to speak, in my opinion.  :)

For me, Dawn of Kernel is the best game, as i enjoyed it most, i voted for it.
Alexandra is of course a great game, but what is very important for me is to make a game with the exactly most suitable difficulty.In Kernel, in the start i found it too difficult, but after many tries i got into it completely. Also, there is almost in every screen a way of going on without getting hit (except 2 screens).For me, Alexandra was too difficult, as Profanation 2 last year. I managed to play Alexandra only using Poke, but that wasnt the same as going through without pokes. Of course this may has to do with my skills in palying, but i saw this difficulty in getting on in many live streamings. Also, i didnt like the re-appearance of the enemies when going back, which in Kernel doesnt happen.
Both great games of course, but for me Kernel is the best. You can acquire an excellency in getting on every screen after some repetitions, and  this made it very enjoyable for me.

It's funny how the level of difficulty in games are perceived so differently. For me, Dawn of Kernel is clearly more difficult than Alexandra. :)

I agree about the re-spawning enemies though.

But maybe I'll change my mind later, like you did. Definitely haven't played my last game of Kernel. But for now, it's Alexandra time. :)

Shadows of Sergoth is THE Dungeon Master's like game that all fans never got on amstrad with a wonderful content.
It is very responsive with a good simplified D&D one player rules system, an efficient interface and a nice map system.
The difficulty is OK, may be some adjusments will be greats to not make it too easy (potions are sometime useless) ...
By the way, you have around 20 hours of game, that is great adventure for the CPC! (need a box version for this hit)

Quote from: TotO on 11:38, 30 December 18
Shadows of Sergoth is THE Dungeon Master's like game that all fans never got on amstrad with a wonderful content.
It is very responsive with a good simplified D&D one player rules system, an efficient interface and a nice map system.
The difficulty is OK, may be some adjusments will be greats to not make it too easy (potions are sometime useless) ...
By the way, you have around 20 hours of game, that is great adventure for the CPC! (need a box version for this hit)

Sure, that's a dungeon crawler. It is a different genre, you can't expect a shooter to be 20 hours long.

As I said, I think this is all down to personal preference. We're looking for the GOTY of the community based on what is the GOTY of each of us.

You can justify easily why *in your opinion* a game does or does not work for you, but in this case it is hard to argue it in absolute terms. IMHO both Op Alexandra and Kernel are good games without fundamental issues, and Sergoth is a great game you may not like if you're not into dungeon crawlers.

You mentioned Alexandra has some uninteresting enemies, and I thought the same at first (and Galactic Tomb suffers of this too); but then the level design, how the base and the alien ship is put together, the adventure element (get/use object), and the production value; I think it is a brilliant game, certainly.

And the points you mentioned re: Kernel. Oh, well... it is not Cybernoid. If you want a more frantic shooter, more "dumb" enemy types and lots of weapons, without the puzzle element of the energy towers / fields and the more strategic gameplay; fair enough: go and play Cybernoid :)

To be true, I'm not fan about Dungeon Crawler but this one is easy to play with the great realisation.
So, I'm more speaking about gameplay and gamedesign here to vote, than my own taste (shmups).  ;D

Quote from: Gryzor on 17:34, 26 December 18
Hello guys!


Seeing the results here  (http://www.homebrewlegends.com/)I thought I'd run the same poll here at the forum and see what people say...


So, best game of the year?


I don't usually do polls, especially "best" ones, but I thought I'd see if and how community opinion differs...

It's a good idea! I think these polls are good for motivating people to do better and better games.

However, I think we should wait until the end of the year, as someone might launch a game today/tomorrow and not appear in the polls.

Quote from: Rhino on 14:28, 30 December 18
It's a good idea! I think these polls are good for motivating people to do better and better games.

However, I think we should wait until the end of the year, as someone might launch a game today/tomorrow and not appear in the polls.

I actually wanted to duplicate the other, original poll, otherwise I'd have made it open to entries, but... I guess you know something? [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]

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Quote from: Gryzor on 14:33, 30 December 18
I actually wanted to duplicate the other, original poll, otherwise I'd have made it open to entries, but... I guess you know something? [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]

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The original poll didn't explain why those games are in the list and why others are not; that's why I proposed a more "open" way of voting.

The GOTY is usually a running thing until end of January. I guess Phantomas 2 remake could be released between today and tomorrow.

Ok, then let's do a proper GotY come January :)

Quote from: Gryzor on 17:36, 30 December 18
Ok, then let's do a proper GotY come January :)

I know it's probably not possible (?), but I think it would be nice if, instead of picking one single title only, to be able to give points to each game. Like, if the list has 10 titles, then you can give 10 points to one title, 9 points to the next, 8 points to the next, and so on.

Yeah, not feasible unfortunately... We could perhaps use an external service and do it through a web form, but half the fun would be gone [emoji21]

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Ok, I did this: http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/cpcwiki-discussion/testing-poll-with-points/


This is more like what was asked, but not quite; in that it turns out it's quite complicated to do a system where you assign 10 points to one option, 9 points to another etc, if you consider the logic behind it. Instead, the voter is given x points and he can assign them any way they please. For instance, in the test I linked to you have ten points to assign to all the options, and I did a 5-4-1 vote. I could also do ten 1-point votes or one 10-point vote.


Is that better?

It was great when "Push'N Pop" does it into the past... May be "Memory Full" will do again?

Looks good.

The only problem with this is, that a lot of people would probably just use all 10 points for their favourite game, worried that it wouldn't reach the best score otherwise.

Is there any way to you set a max score for each?
For example, give everyone 50 points to share - but allow them to maximum give 10 to each game?

Yes, you can restrict the maximum points given to a single entry.


So, I was thinking, perhaps if we have, say, 5 games and scoring was, say, 10-8-7-6-5 points from #1 through #5, each voter would be assigned 36 points to assign as they wish.

Yes, that could work. Although it would also allow people to assign 10-10-10-6, but that would be fine too I think.

Yes, I know. Unfortunately I can't check for minimum number of voted-for options as you mean it, but I thought, if this 'risk' is spread over all the users the resulting skewness kind of evens out, hopefully.

Afternoon all,

I would like to take a few moments to clarify a few things, I am the owner of both HBL and RVG websites, over the last year or so I have become fond of the CPC, HBL was created to help promote this homebrew scene and bring all the systems under one site, a database of sorts, that may be an impossible task but its one I am hoping to achieve and I am after some help if any kind souls here are interested, anyway, as I said the past 12 mths I played those games in the poll list, I thought in this instance it would be best to do a poll on games that I knew and understood, going forward that will change, I hope to discuss further options with Gryzor and perhaps do a joint poll for 2019.
I hope that at least explains the game choices, the poll itself was slighly confusing for me too, I never expected the results I got and it was only the last few days of the poll that pushed Galactic Tomb to be the winner. Some may not agree, it is about personal preference though and 54 people out of a total of 207 votes chose that game. I believe its a worthy winner because its a cracking game at the end of the day.

That's a lot of votes!

Well I went for Dawn of Kernel. It's a better game than Operation Alexandra or Jarlac and Shergoth never appealed to me. Just my two 'penneth

Right, should we start on the nominations then? :)