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Started by tjohnson, 23:40, 03 January 18

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tjohnson

I have a CPC464 which I've cleaned up, replaced the belt and it now loads cassette games again.   I have a few but have no real desire to buy and have lots of old cassette lying around so I bought one of the old audio cassette things to allow me to play MP3 audio files through the tape head, it works great and I've been able to play a couple of the releases like duck out and basket cases.  Anyway after all this rambling, it brings me to the point of my question.  Is there a bulk archive of CDP or even better prepared audio files for games that I could download and keep ready for loading in games?    Cheers Trevor

Shaun M. Neary

Sorry if this sounds pedantic. It's not my intention but do you mean CDP, or CDT? I know of the latter.


CPC-power is good for CDT files, cpcrulez is also worth checking.
I've used an iPod classic and a tape to 3'5" jack adapter and works perfectly.
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

tjohnson

Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 01:04, 04 January 18
Sorry if this sounds pedantic. It's not my intention but do you mean CDP, or CDT? I know of the latter.


CPC-power is good for CDT files, cpcrulez is also worth checking.
I've used an iPod classic and a tape to 3'5" jack adapter and works perfectly.
Yeah cdt files not cdp!!

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Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: tjohnson on 08:33, 04 January 18
Yeah cdt files not cdp!!

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Cool. Yeah, check CPC-Power and CPCRulez and you'll find tape rips there ready to go.
Also check NVG.  :)
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Nich

Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 10:27, 04 January 18

Cool. Yeah, check CPC-Power and CPCRulez and you'll find tape rips there ready to go.
Also check NVG.  :)

The ADATE section of the NVG archive (which hasn't been maintained since 2006) has CDT files, but the rest of the NVG archive doesn't.

Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: Nich on 22:07, 04 January 18
The ADATE section of the NVG archive (which hasn't been maintained since 2006) has CDT files, but the rest of the NVG archive doesn't.


I think some of my early submissions from 01/02 are there in ADATE but I'm open to correction on that.
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Buleste

CPC Power etc have all the CDT files as individual games. There is no .ZIP file that includes them all.

CSW2CDT is a good tool for converting wav to CDT and CDT 2 WAV http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/csw2cdt.htm

One thing you must remember though is that as there is no automatic pausing of the cassette when using a cassette to CD/MP3 player you may have difficulties loading some games.

I personally added a 5pin DIN and use a 6128 cassette lead and TZXDuino to load CDT files. Still not 100% accurate as there are some TZX IDs not implemented but it does have motor control which is a definite bonus.

Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: Buleste on 16:59, 05 January 18

One thing you must remember though is that as there is no automatic pausing of the cassette when using a cassette to CD/MP3 player you may have difficulties loading some games.



Technically incorrect.


The tape still pauses, but because it's coming from the mp3 player, the pausing of the tape won't stop the mp3 player from playing the file so you need to manually pause it. So you can forget about tape multi loaders unless you make a note of the time it stops on the playback device and scan back to that point. The cassette counter will be no good to you.


Oh God, I'm starting to sound like @Bryce now. But those are the facts.  :laugh:
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

CraigsBar



Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 17:06, 05 January 18

Oh God, I'm starting to sound like @Bryce now. But those are the facts.  [emoji23]

oh go on... let me 'deliberately misunderstand you' it would be fun!

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Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: CraigsBar on 17:30, 05 January 18

oh go on... let me 'deliberately misunderstand you' it would be fun!

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You mean you don't? :laugh:
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Buleste

Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 17:06, 05 January 18

Technically incorrect.


The tape still pauses, but because it's coming from the mp3 player, the pausing of the tape won't stop the mp3 player from playing the file so you need to manually pause it. So you can forget about tape multi loaders unless you make a note of the time it stops on the playback device and scan back to that point. The cassette counter will be no good to you.


Oh God, I'm starting to sound like @Bryce now. But those are the facts.  :laugh:
That's what I meant. Lol
I have man-flu so I'm dying here. Gimme a break. ;-)

tjohnson


Quote from: Buleste on 16:59, 05 January 18
CPC Power etc have all the CDT files as individual games. There is no .ZIP file that includes them all.

CSW2CDT is a good tool for converting wav to CDT and CDT 2 WAV http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/csw2cdt.htm

One thing you must remember though is that as there is no automatic pausing of the cassette when using a cassette to CD/MP3 player you may have difficulties loading some games.

I personally added a 5pin DIN and use a 6128 cassette lead and TZXDuino to load CDT files. Still not 100% accurate as there are some TZX IDs not implemented but it does have motor control which is a definite bonus.


I've got a few old cassette games that came with this 464, but the only cassette player in the house is very poor quality, tried to convert one tape and got read error b on block 1, could hear it was poor quality. 


Cassette was a good cheap solution years back but probably not a tech that should be missed.  I remember taping off the radio the UK top 40 with the likes of Bruno Brooks DJing and then high speed dubbing cassettes together, those were the days before Spotify.

Buleste

Quote from: tjohnson on 22:45, 05 January 18

I've got a few old cassette games that came with this 464, but the only cassette player in the house is very poor quality, tried to convert one tape and got read error b on block 1, could hear it was poor quality. 


Cassette was a good cheap solution years back but probably not a tech that should be missed.  I remember taping off the radio the UK top 40 with the likes of Bruno Brooks DJing and then high speed dubbing cassettes together, those were the days before Spotify.

Most of us are in the same boat with the old poor quality cassette players. I bought a USB one that plugs straight in the PC to record computer tapes. Fairly cheap at about £10. You just need to then convert the recordings to a clearer format.
As for using your Cassette to 3.5mm there are plenty of programmes on PC or Phone that read the CDT and play it back as an audio but you will need to manually pause the playback for multiloads or some other games where motor control is important.

Bryce

If you don't mind hacking your MP3 player apart, you could wire something up to make the Remote / Motor ON signal actuate the pause on the MP3 player.

Bryce.

CraigsBar

Quote from: Bryce on 08:37, 08 January 18
If you don't mind hacking your MP3 player apart, you could wire something up to make the Remote / Motor ON signal actuate the pause on the MP3 player.

Bryce.
If that could be done externally via the 30 pin connector on a pre lightning iPod, it'd be awesome.

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Bryce

Quote from: CraigsBar on 15:16, 08 January 18
If that could be done externally via the 30 pin connector on a pre lightning iPod, it'd be awesome.

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Does it have the remote pins on a secondary connection of the headphone?  http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/chap3_0789732785/elementLinks/03fig01.jpg

Bryce.

CraigsBar

Quote from: Bryce on 15:18, 08 January 18
Does it have the remote pins on a secondary connection of the headphone?  http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/chap3_0789732785/elementLinks/03fig01.jpg

Bryce.
It has support for pause on the 30 pin yes.. as the official apple remote & fm receiver works that way

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Bryce

That's not what I asked. Look at the picture I linked to. I'm talking about the 4 pin socket beside the headphone.

Bryce.

CraigsBar

Quote from: Bryce on 15:25, 08 January 18
That's not what I asked. Look at the picture I linked to. I'm talking about the 4 pin socket beside the headphone.

Bryce.
All devices no. The last generation iPod classic supports pause /play /previous /next on rapid click codes of a phone headset button. I guess the actual remote socket was dropped when headset buttons, and 30 pin connectors gave 2 options already.

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Bryce

That's a pity, because the 4 pin remote socket is very easy and cheap to interface to. That'll teach you to keep updating to the latest apple device you fanboi! :D

Bryce.

Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: Bryce on 16:10, 08 January 18
That's a pity, because the 4 pin remote socket is very easy and cheap to interface to. That'll teach you to keep updating to the latest apple device you fanboi! :D

Bryce.


To be fair, Apple discontinued the last gen classic about three years ago. You'd want to be a right dinosaur to own one of those iPod iBricks!  :laugh:
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

CraigsBar

Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 16:21, 08 January 18

To be fair, Apple discontinued the last gen classic about three years ago. You'd want to be a right dinosaur to own one of those iPod iBricks!  [emoji23]
Lol. That is why you have 2 eh? Should we call you shaunosaurus?

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CraigsBar

Quote from: Bryce on 16:10, 08 January 18
That's a pity, because the 4 pin remote socket is very easy and cheap to interface to. That'll teach you to keep updating to the latest apple device you fanboi! :D

Bryce.
Me... fanboy? Hardly! lol

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Shaun M. Neary

Quote from: CraigsBar on 16:36, 08 January 18
Lol. That is why you have 2 eh? Should we call you shaunosaurus?

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I meant the ones that had the additional jack beside the headphone socket!
I wouldn't trade my 160gb iPod classics for the world! Beats draining the hell out of my phone's battery life!!
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

CraigsBar

Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 16:45, 08 January 18

I meant the ones that had the additional jack beside the headphone socket!
I wouldn't trade my 160gb iPod classics for the world! Beats draining the hell out of my phone's battery life!!
Ditto... but myphone lasts all day with audible playing anyway.. but then again, i have a superior android phone no a shitty iPhone.

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