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Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« on: 15:28, 17 September 16 »
Hi

Batman Group (creators of Batman Forever Demo)  returns this time with a game that (again) will break 8bit/CPC schemes/scenes!.

Sorry, the page is in spanish, i Just found it about 5 mins. No time to traslate!

Batman Group vuelve dispuesto a demostrar el verdadero potencial del Amstrad
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #1 on: 20:09, 17 September 16 »
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #2 on: 20:28, 17 September 16 »
"Batman Group continues to insist on demonstrating that the machine was totally wasted during the commercial life of it. And we warn. "Although it will be the game technically advancing CPC to date, is still far from reaching the true potential of Amstrad According to our estimates, Pinball Dreams will use around 40% of the potential, Batman Forever will be around 60 % while the classic commercial software rarely exceeded 10%. "

Oh I hope that's true and we start to see software that backs up this claim.
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #3 on: 00:18, 18 September 16 »
"Batman Group continues to insist on demonstrating that the machine was totally wasted during the commercial life of it. And we warn. "Although it will be the game technically advancing CPC to date, is still far from reaching the true potential of Amstrad According to our estimates, Pinball Dreams will use around 40% of the potential, Batman Forever will be around 60 % while the classic commercial software rarely exceeded 10%. "

Oh I hope that's true and we start to see software that backs up this claim.


Just for the record, a preview exist for C64, but they never finished it lol.


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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #4 on: 01:18, 18 September 16 »
"Batman Group continues to insist on demonstrating that the machine was totally wasted during the commercial life of it. And we warn. "Although it will be the game technically advancing CPC to date, is still far from reaching the true potential of Amstrad According to our estimates, Pinball Dreams will use around 40% of the potential, Batman Forever will be around 60 % while the classic commercial software rarely exceeded 10%. "


So does that mean a 64k 464 could potentially load a 42k program from Tape in 2 Secs?
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #5 on: 01:19, 18 September 16 »
Is this being entered into the CPCretrodev contest?
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #6 on: 01:45, 18 September 16 »

So does that mean a 64k 464 could potentially load a 42k program from Tape in 2 Secs?


I got proved that a 464 can load tapes recorded at 6500 bauds.


i tested that on my 464, Turrican 2 intro part played in 1mn05, and each level took 20 seconds to load :)

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #7 on: 09:39, 18 September 16 »
Oh wow. I love Pinballs on the computer - just yesterday I downloaded the full, 13-table Epic Pinball version. How I wish this gets released!!!!

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #8 on: 12:15, 18 September 16 »

So does that mean a 64k 464 could potentially load a 42k program from Tape in 2 Secs?


Batman Group likes to distort reality  ;D


But if they release a pinball with their flipping mode to gainz some colors, in vertical fullscreen, maybe with a scrolling, it would be very, very nice!


I cant' wait to see the result!
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #9 on: 12:25, 18 September 16 »
Converting a few loading screens is one thing, to convert the full game is quite another. Why not shots of the actual game?


Time will tell. But we're used to big promises, a few screen shots, and then nothing happening sadly.
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #10 on: 12:27, 18 September 16 »
Converting a few loading screens is one thing, to convert the full game is quite another. Why not shots of the actual game?


Time will tell. But we're used to big promises, a few screen shots, and then nothing happening sadly.
For some people yes. When has Rhino talked about something and never delivered?

EDIT: Removed "promised" and put "talked about".

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #11 on: 12:30, 18 September 16 »
Why not shots of the actual game?




Just maybe to keep the full surprise? Don't Know, but does it look clear ?
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #12 on: 12:31, 18 September 16 »
Is this being entered into the CPCretrodev contest?

If the can make it following the restrictions of the contest (64K, one single load), that would be extra-impressive :D
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #13 on: 13:10, 18 September 16 »
If the can make it following the restrictions of the contest (64K, one single load), that would be extra-impressive :D
Considering Rhino did patch the original firmware on the fly in Batman Demo to access more space on the disk my educated guess is it's not likely.

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #14 on: 13:22, 18 September 16 »
Considering Rhino did patch the original firmware on the fly in Batman Demo to access more space on the disk my educated guess is it's not likely.
No. There was no patching of firmware.
The disc used a custom disc format with more sectors.
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #15 on: 14:08, 18 September 16 »

Just for the record, a preview exist for C64, but they never finished it lol.


Somewhere I read that the Pinball Dreams project for C64 was because of a bet.
Well, after more than 10 years, I think that who believed he could do it on C64 should pay the bet.


Considering Rhino did patch the original firmware on the fly in Batman Demo to access more space on the disk my educated guess is it's not likely.

I did nothing with the disc in BF nor Pinball Dreams, it was Arnoldemu.

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #16 on: 14:13, 18 September 16 »
Converting a few loading screens is one thing, to convert the full game is quite another. Why not shots of the actual game?


Time will tell. But we're used to big promises, a few screen shots, and then nothing happening sadly.

As it was said in before, we are talking about Rhino here  :) I am really confident that he has something truly amazing to show us and it is not going to be vaporware!

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #17 on: 14:24, 18 September 16 »
Somewhere I read that the Pinball Dreams project for C64 was because of a bet.
Well, after more than 10 years, I think that who believed he could do it on C64 should pay the bet.


I did nothing with the disc in BF nor Pinball Dreams, it was Arnoldemu.


I have one question : we've all seen the screens converted from the amiga in Perfect pix, but which mode will you use for the ingame ?


Will it be mode 0 or mode 1 with extended palette ?

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #18 on: 16:20, 18 September 16 »

I have one question : we've all seen the screens converted from the amiga in Perfect pix, but which mode will you use for the ingame ?


Will it be mode 0 or mode 1 with extended palette ?


I also want to propose if needed to post the Pinball Dreams graphic assets from the Amiga version :)

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #19 on: 20:15, 18 September 16 »
For some reason I doubt Rhino will share any details before the release; he likes to surprise :D

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #20 on: 20:19, 18 September 16 »
For some reason I doubt Rhino will share any details before the release; he likes to surprise :D


And he is right ;)

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #21 on: 00:46, 19 September 16 »

I have one question : we've all seen the screens converted from the amiga in Perfect pix, but which mode will you use for the ingame ?


Will it be mode 0 or mode 1 with extended palette ?

Many graphic techniques are involved, some of them have not been implemented in games before. But what I'm proud of, though it is a personal feeling, it is that after playing around with Pinball Dreams on CPC, the Amiga version seems less real.
Nothing else I can say.




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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #22 on: 01:22, 19 September 16 »
PDreams is the best pinball for me till today.
Can't wait to play it on my cpc  :-X

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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #23 on: 01:24, 19 September 16 »
I personally prefer SlamTilt AGA on the a1200. But I too cannot wait for Pinball Dreams on the CPC.
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Re: Pinball Dreams, new game from Batman Group!!
« Reply #24 on: 09:11, 19 September 16 »
Many graphic techniques are involved, some of them have not been implemented in games before. But what I'm proud of, though it is a personal feeling, it is that after playing around with Pinball Dreams on CPC, the Amiga version seems less real.
Nothing else I can say.
Nice. You make it very easy to wait. :-\
(I loved playing Pinball Dreams on PC!)
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