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Title: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 09:29, 02 September 15
CPC Rulez has just opened a beta for its Rulez!Charge (http://cpcrulez.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5583) program.
For peoples who known Amcharge (Minitel), Rulez!Charge is a modern way (Internet) to download and write DSK from your CPC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?=34&v=9AsvBM4q6kI
It require a serial interface (like CPC/Mini Booster) and a PC as gateway.
All should work like magic if you are using a bluetooth connection.  ;D
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: CraigsBar on 10:31, 02 September 15
WOW, looks amazing, Where do we get in on the Beta Program... Sorry my french is limited to Cullinary :(

Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 10:42, 02 September 15
I'm eating chouquettes and croissants for waiting the link to download it...  ;D
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: Kris on 13:32, 02 September 15
Really great news! I'm really restless to test it :)
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: HAL6128 on 13:36, 02 September 15
...so the CPC is able to download content from Internet?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 13:50, 02 September 15
Yes. I have updated the first post to be more understandable.  8)
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: VincentGR on 13:52, 02 September 15
Magic!!!  :-X
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: HAL6128 on 14:34, 02 September 15
What comfortable idea!

Just another question (has nothing to do with that topic): would the PC be able to act as a HTML Server (prepare the data for the CPC to save CPU power) and sent it in the same principle (as a "Gateway") to the CPC just to view the content?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 14:51, 02 September 15
Sure it should be possible.
I have already spoke about that in the past for a web brower and a doom game.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TFM on 16:07, 02 September 15
You got a like for posting that. But I don't see the advantage over having a Mini-Booster and using Write DSK with it. Sorry, I guess I miss the point. :-X
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: Prodatron on 16:21, 02 September 15
It seems to take more than 1 minute to write 2 tracks (9KB), which is less than 150bytes/second (including disc writing), is this already the final speed?
I never had a look at the Arkos Write DSK, was it the same speed?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TFM on 16:42, 02 September 15
Quote from: Prodatron on 16:21, 02 September 15
It seems to take more than 1 minute to write 2 tracks (9KB), which is less than 150bytes/second (including disc writing), is this already the final speed?
I never had a look at the Arkos Write DSK, was it the same speed?

No, that writes with usual speed.


EDIT: Looks like the "Reading" needs the most time.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: ronaldo on 19:24, 02 September 15
Maybe read/write can be improved using an HD or an X-MASS
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TFM on 19:51, 02 September 15
Quote from: ronaldo on 19:24, 02 September 15
Maybe read/write can be improved using an HD or an X-MASS


How should that work? A track usually (Data format) only has 4.5 KB. For writing to a physical disc the FDC is all that counts. For reading data the Mini-Booster transfer rate and the speed in which the PC sends data are the decision makers.


Even if you would buffer data on hard-disc, at the end it still needs to be written to disc. No gain.


Or maybe I don't get what's actually happening here.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 21:51, 02 September 15
Quote from: TFM on 16:07, 02 September 15I don't see the advantage over having a Mini-Booster and using Write DSK with it. Sorry, I guess I miss the point. :-X
Hey! You no more have to use a PC for the firsts steps... (except if you already own all the CPC softwares on it)
Here, you use the CPC for searching, downloading and writing the files from Internet to a floppy.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: MacDeath on 23:02, 02 September 15
So my DB9 - DIN5 Amscharge cable is now totally useless ?
And I don't even have to use my Minitel ?



more seriously... some "mobile phone application could come handy.
more phones support bluetooth and get some internet thing.

Anyone for the WinPhone or Android killer app ?
perhaps iOS ?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: pelrun on 06:27, 03 September 15
Quote from: Prodatron on 16:21, 02 September 15
It seems to take more than 1 minute to write 2 tracks (9KB), which is less than 150bytes/second (including disc writing)


That's gotta be wrong; even my DSK2CDT2DISC managed 15seconds or better per track, and it was loading them from tape!
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: GOB on 11:25, 03 September 15
Quote from: HAL 6128 on 14:34, 02 September 15
What comfortable idea!

Just another question (has nothing to do with that topic): would the PC be able to act as a HTML Server (prepare the data for the CPC to save CPU power) and sent it in the same principle (as a "Gateway") to the CPC just to view the content?

Use your PC... why try to display something on CPC he can not do it alone...
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 12:08, 03 September 15
Without Minitel, a CPC alone was not able to download softwares in 80's = no Amcharge.
Using a Server (PC or anything else) as gateway is what does all computers to access networks, play games, ...
The CPC had enough things to process to not waste its CPU time. Things Network applications not Demo!
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TFM on 17:18, 03 September 15
Well, as long as I can take the USB cable and don't have to use Bleu Dents  ;)
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: Ast on 17:52, 03 September 15
You mean "dents bleues", n'est-ce pas ?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TFM on 17:56, 03 September 15
Qui, c'est frai!  :)
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: angelcaio on 17:46, 07 April 19
Maybe it's "a bit" slow, but it's amazing to download from the website directly with the CPC. ... Although with a little help from a pc.
https://youtu.be/BEhPWeC9VJE


Enviado desde mi iPad utilizando Tapatalk
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: VincentGR on 18:25, 07 April 19
Totally forgot about this.
Does it work with an M4?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: GUNHED on 17:41, 08 April 19
No, it's for RS232, CPC-Booster and Mini-Booster... But... does somebody know a link to the latest version?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: VincentGR on 18:04, 08 April 19
Thanks gun.
I wonder if that serial holes on M4 can do something  :-X
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: robcfg on 18:30, 08 April 19
The M4 can already download files from the internet, so what does this do that is different?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: TotO on 18:46, 08 April 19
Quote from: robcfg on 18:30, 08 April 19
The M4 can already download files from the internet, so what does this do that is different?
This is for serial interface like CPC Booster and was done before the M4 was released.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: zhulien on 15:23, 10 April 19
I suggested in the other thread about the CPC file manager for M4 to support direct download from the net along with an easy way to implement it, but didn't seem to get a positive response.  I guessed no-one with CPC wants to download direct?
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: genesis8 on 15:48, 10 April 19
Httpget command already work on M4 to get a file directly from internet. See the thread about telnet utility written by Duke or directly the documentation
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: zhulien on 16:10, 10 April 19
Quote from: genesis8 on 15:48, 10 April 19
Httpget command already work on M4 to get a file directly from internet. See the thread about telnet utility written by Duke or directly the documentation


Of course I think most M4 owners now that as we use it to get updates before.  But to be able to copy a file from the net to a folder with the filemanager in a way identical to that from folder to folder would be really simple to implement and easy for everyone.
Title: Re: RULEZ!CHARGE (download your DSK from Internet to your CPC)
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 12:25, 19 February 22
New version: https://cpcrulez.fr/applications_util-rulez-change-m4wifi.htm (https://cpcrulez.fr/applications_util-rulez-change-m4wifi.htm)
Quotev0.8b1:
- Correction commande RNDF

SD Browser:
- Fonction upload en test (.dsk only, pour nos testeurs) ...
- Ajout fonctions viewtext sur fichiers .txt/.nfo
- Ajout fonction viewhexa
- Une version .ROM dispo (rsx ùRC)
- Autres changements mineurs

.DSK -> FDC
- Easycopy : ajout de msg d'erreur/amélioration dans la détection des disques physique.
- Ultracopy (.dsk extented) : Amélioration/nettoyage du code
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