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Offline Shining

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Fixing Floppy-Drives
« on: 00:45, 13 January 15 »
As written here:

Wanted - 3" internal or external disk drive
Wanted - 3" internal or external disk drive

my two internal drives only produce read-errors. So I tried to let them be fixed without success.
My drives are back home now. The error-description was not headcrash for both but for one. They said the other has a damaged stepper-motor.
I retried both on my cpc and both stepper-motors are moving.

I would be very pleased if someone here will be able to fix one or both of them, because being completely without a working 3"-drive is a mess.

(My 3 1/2-drive and my hxc are still working so I'm not completely lost)

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #1 on: 10:20, 13 January 15 »
Send them to me. I'm Germany, so the postage shouldn't be too bad.

PM on its way to you...

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #2 on: 18:35, 13 January 15 »
Well, if it can be done - then Bryce can do it.  :) :) :)
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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #3 on: 19:12, 13 January 15 »
I second that TFM  :D
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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #4 on: 01:35, 14 January 15 »
Thirded. Bryce really is the drive doctor. He fixed one of mine.

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #5 on: 09:59, 14 January 15 »
Application forms for my fan club can be downloaded at www.... :D

Thanks for all the words of approval guys.

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #6 on: 15:46, 14 January 15 »
lol  :D Do we get a free goodie bag if we join Bryce :-)
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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #7 on: 15:48, 14 January 15 »
A free 464plus upgrade, and/or 3inch drive fix for the first 20 members LOL.

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #8 on: 16:30, 14 January 15 »
Yeah suuuuure. You get a signed photo of my soldering iron :D

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #9 on: 16:40, 14 January 15 »
Even your soldering iron can sign photos? Wow, you are clearly a genius, inventing and building a sentient soldering iron that can sign photos. I want one of those.

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #10 on: 17:17, 14 January 15 »
They will come... They will burn...

No of course not! That's the subtle difference between "of" and "by".

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #11 on: 18:19, 14 January 15 »
I know that this is a bit cheeky, but you don't fancy a go at repairing my internal 3" drive at all do you Bryce? It currently will not read or write to discs for strange reason. The belt looks fairly new and is intact, so I don't think that is the problem.

As an alternative, I could send the whole computer and maybe you could fit an Amsdos/Parados ROM internally, that could switch between the two of them? The Amsdos ROM is in a socket by the way. The only thing with that of course, is that the cost of posting the whole computer from the UK to Germany could be too expensive  :o  Also I would need it back asap.

What do you think Bryce?

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #12 on: 19:25, 14 January 15 »
They will come... They will burn...

No of course not! That's the subtle difference between "of" and "by".

Bryce.

I was thinking that a signed picture is normally signed by the subject matter. But anyway it seems the humour/sarcasm was lost... Does this mean we don't get any signed soldering iron porn

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #13 on: 19:28, 14 January 15 »
I know that this is a bit cheeky, but you don't fancy a go at repairing my internal 3" drive at all do you Bryce? It currently will not read or write to discs for strange reason. The belt looks fairly new and is intact, so I don't think that is the problem.

As an alternative, I could send the whole computer and maybe you could fit an Amsdos/Parados ROM internally, that could switch between the two of them? The Amsdos ROM is in a socket by the way. The only thing with that of course, is that the cost of posting the whole computer from the UK to Germany could be too expensive  :o  Also I would need it back asap.

What do you think Bryce?
if the amsdos Rom is socketed then I can happily burn and post a Parados Rom to you for a direct swap upgrade.

That way you only need to post the drive to Germany. PM me if interested

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #14 on: 19:59, 14 January 15 »
Hmm... food for thought... Thanks Craig. I will have a think and let you know.

Mark

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #15 on: 20:47, 14 January 15 »
... I will have a think and let you know.

... I will have a drink too then  ;)
 
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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #16 on: 22:06, 14 January 15 »
Eh??

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #17 on: 22:23, 14 January 15 »
I think @TFM is in father jack mode lol. Drink!

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #18 on: 00:35, 15 January 15 »
"Think" "Drink" - oh well, one can mix up some letters at this time of the day.  :laugh:
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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #19 on: 00:48, 15 January 15 »
Doh... Lol

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #20 on: 10:38, 15 January 15 »
I know that this is a bit cheeky, but you don't fancy a go at repairing my internal 3" drive at all do you Bryce? It currently will not read or write to discs for strange reason. The belt looks fairly new and is intact, so I don't think that is the problem.

As an alternative, I could send the whole computer and maybe you could fit an Amsdos/Parados ROM internally, that could switch between the two of them? The Amsdos ROM is in a socket by the way. The only thing with that of course, is that the cost of posting the whole computer from the UK to Germany could be too expensive  :o  Also I would need it back asap.

What do you think Bryce?

You can send the drive over of course. I'll send you a PM with my address. As far as the ROM is concerned, you can either take up Craigs offer, or (as you ROM is already socketed) it would be also possible to make a ROM/socket with switch that would plug into your PCB socket. This would give you a switchable AmsDOS/ParaDOS which I could easily just send back with the drive. You'd just have to mount the switch somewhere on the outer case (this just involves drilling a 6mm hole).

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #21 on: 20:07, 15 January 15 »
Thank you Bryce. That would be most kind of you. I like the idea of a switchable AmsDOS/ParaDOS ROM, so if you could send one back with my drive when I send it to you, that would be very much appreciated. I take it that I would just be able to mount the switch to the case somewhere, as I don't own a soldering iron and therefore can't do any soldering?
Anyway if you could send me a PM with your address, I will send you my drive as soon as I can.
Thanks once again.
Mark

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #22 on: 21:55, 21 January 15 »
Hi Shining,
        your drives arrived today. I took the first one out and a 2 Minute visual check has already spotted the problem. Almost all the header connectors (to motors/sensors etc) have seriously bad dry joints. That guy never even looked at these! Anyone with half a clue about electronics would spot that instantly. I usually re-solder these as a matter of process, just because they cause problems so often.

Time to check the second one....

Bryce.

P.s. Thanks for the Gummibärchen. If I'm really quick I might even get one before my son (3) spots them.

Edit: Nothing obvious with the second drive. I'll power it up at the weekend to find out a bit more.

Here's what that guy supposedly didn't spot!! This is the header coming from the Index sensor, so it would definitely make the drive a non-runner.
« Last Edit: 22:25, 21 January 15 by Bryce »

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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #23 on: 22:52, 21 January 15 »
Looks like Bryces "Drive Hero" status is intact.


Sheesh, looking at that picture I'm not sure how it ever worked.


Craig




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Re: Fixing Floppy-Drives
« Reply #24 on: 23:00, 22 January 15 »
Whow. Thanks Bryce, why didn't I've asked here before ?

Don't know which of the two floppys this was but both are not the ones I had in my CPC when I bought my 6128 as a twelve years old boy in cologne. (That floppy died in the 80s). I'll never forget when we went to Saturn (at that time they existed only there) to buy one but they did not have one. I only spotted some games there including Batman (the first one). We went through the whole city searching another 6128 and finally found one at Quelle. Then we went back to Saturn (carrying the CPC and the GT65), bought Batman and Scooby Doo at Saturn and drove back home.

The CPC still exists and thanks to Bryce it will get a working floppy again....
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