Forum installation and loss of functionality

[TFM]

I think the idea is to have a new version of the forum so it is better protected from hacks and things like that.

I don't think it went as smoothly as Gryzor hoped it would.

That's actually a good idea! 


I see it's very hard to cope with all the tasks. Just hope it will all have a good end! 

[1024MAK]

Just hope it will all have a good end! 

As do we all 

Still looks like we have around 170 "guests" 

Mark

[TFM]

Probably bots? Mostly?

[MacDeath]

I invested 20euros and too many years of my "no life" in this site...

hope no f***cking hacker will crack this unless they share the disk via Discology 6.0 on 3" disk.

[Audronic]

The Unread Button is Missing.
Whats new is not the main page ?


Thanks   Ray

[AMSDOS]

Now, if anyone's got any idea about what to do with the bots that have been attacking our forum, I'd be very interested to hear from you. If you take a look at who's online you'll see that there are about 150 Guest entries doing god-knows-what (unknown function; I bet this is them trying to access the downloads that don't exist any more). They obviously keep hitting again and again because our server line is being maxed out...

I only have an silly idea, but I'll post it here in case someone can brainstorm on it.
I thought if there was some encryption system program for our Amstrad to decrypt when the server is online that should fix all them bots. But if it was just one of those type what's in the image sort of thing then that should work before going onto the forum.

[Maniac]

Sorry to say that Tapatalk seems to be broken again. Was working fine this morning but this evening it's back to Unread being the only way to surf content.

[Bryce]

It seems to break TapaTalk as soon as the "Recent Topics" has been moved to the top of the page. When it was at the bottom of the page TapaTalk still worked fine. Is there any problem with leaving it at the bottom?

Bryce.

[Maniac]

It seems to break TapaTalk as soon as the "Recent Topics" has been moved to the top of the page. When it was at the bottom of the page TapaTalk still worked fine. Is there any problem with leaving it at the bottom?

Bryce.

It seems more logical to have it at the top but personally I mainly access this via TapaTalk on my phone for convenience so would rather that worked. However at least I can use Unread if others feel it's better at the top!

[Bryce]

It seems more logical to have it at the top but personally I mainly access this via TapaTalk on my phone for convenience so would rather that worked. However at least I can use Unread if others feel it's better at the top!

It causes more problems than just the contents only available in "unread". If you log out of the forum on TapaTalk you can't get back in.

Bryce.

[Maniac]

It causes more problems than just the contents only available in "unread". If you log out of the forum on TapaTalk you can't get back in.

Bryce.

Thank goodness I haven't logged out of the forum in the app or it's done it for me!

[Gryzor]

Ok... so do I leave Unread on top, even though WE HAVE THE UNREAD TAB IN THE TOP MENU or do we prefer Tapatalk?

[Bryce]

TapaTalk.

But you can put the unread list at the bottom of the page without effecting TapaTalk as far as I could see.

Bryce.

[Gryzor]

It was somewhat different at the bottom, but let's see...

[Maniac]

It was somewhat different at the bottom, but let's see...

Wahooo! All working again.


Thanks for sorting @Gryzor - I'm sure this is a right headache. Doesn't make much sense either that such a "simple" change would have such a drastic impact on a plugin.

[Gryzor]

Have you guys tested all its functions?

thanks for the kind words @Maniac Unfortunately, Tapatalk is a very badly programmed tool that does not rely on the normal forum APIs and feeds to do its job but instead latches on to it and starts sucking stuff, so that if something is not like it expects it will break...

[Bryce]

Yes, all functions working normal in Android and iOS.

Bryce.

[1024MAK]

Unfortunately, Tapatalk is a very badly programmed tool that does not rely on the normal forum APIs and feeds to do its job but instead latches on to it and starts sucking stuff, so that if something is not like it expects it will break...

Some forum admins won't use Tapatalk because it does not use proper tie in methods (it uses unauthorised methods). Atari-Forum is still awaiting answers about this and has a ticket open with Tapatalk.

I did not use it much when I did have it. But when I found out that the Atari-Forum Admin considered it to be a security risk, I removed it from my devices.

Mark

[Gryzor]

Not sure it's a security risk, but I know what you're talking about.

In fact, what is funny right now is that it obviously works to some degree, and yet... guess what? I Haven't installed it So, yeah, weird stuff.

[SOS]

Ok... so do I leave Unread on top, even though WE HAVE THE UNREAD TAB IN THE TOP MENU or do we prefer Tapatalk?

Both 
My opinion is, that the news stand up on the page and are not buried in the middle somewhere.
Tapatalk is very interesting, when I'm on road.

But it's your decision...

[Gryzor]

Not really mine, it's what the users want

I tend to think that Tapatalk is still the best way to use a forum on a mobile, so... but why oh why doesn't anyone else make a competing product

[1024MAK]

But you can put the unread list at the bottom of the page without effecting TapaTalk as far as I could see.

It was somewhat different at the bottom, but let's see...

The three different flavours of the unread list (seperate page, at the top of the main index page / 'home' page, at the bottom of the main index page / 'home' page) have differences.

The seperate page list (via the link in the top short-cuts / links on the main index page) only includes posts with new unread posts.

The version that was at the top of the main index page showed both posts with new unread posts and also still showed threads that had recent posts but where you had read the all the posts. I think this version would be better described as active topics / active threads. I find this version the most useful, as for me, it's the fastest way of keeping up-to-date with recent threads I may be interested in. And I get positive conformation that a thread I have recently read does not have any new posts when I click through to the "home" page.

The unread list at the bottom of the main index page gives less information, and is harder to use with touch screen mobile devices (at least with my fingers, I have to try to be very accurate with my touch, or I end up looking at the wrong thread).

I don't use Tapatalk so don't much care if it breaks, but do respect that this forum does have users that enjoy using it. So although personally I would like the version of the unread list that appears at the top of the 'home' page. I can fully understand the dilemma...

Mark

[Duke]

Completely agree with @1024MAK .

Was there issues with TapaTalk before the re-install? - As it had the proper "Recent threads".

[Gryzor]

I don't get the advantage of looking at "active" threads where you have read all the posts. How is it 'keeping up' looking at the same thing (essentially, since there are no replies)?

I was looking into server-side includes to see how to manually add the functionality we're discussing, but I vowed that I'd do no manual hacks this time around, at least until SMF 2.1 is released (because much will break then). I wonder... perhaps a separate page with recent posts/topics, stats etc? Would that be of any use? Or maybe we should try a portal-like environment? Take a look at http://simpleportal.net/ - fully customiseable...

@Duke : I think that yes, there were issues indeed. Probably because TT, instead of relying on the SMF engine to pull the relevant info, it tried to brute-force its way...

[Audronic]

@Gryzor


Its still falling over.   Damn.
This is during a Post of a PM to a Member.


Ray