As many of you will probably know from the posts on various facebook pages I'm working on the Kickstarter project to produce a magazine for 8 bit computers. Currently the project is 26% backed just going into it's 3rd day. The magazine will have articles on programming, hardware projects as well as gaming so it will be very different than something like Retro Gamer for example. I'm thinking somewhere between WACCI and Amstrad Action. Overall the contributors will decide the overall feel of the magazine.
I would like to ask if others like to supply articles for future issues and to ask people here what they would like to see in the magazine. Don't just say "CPC content" ;D
To check out the kickstarter project click here:
Eight Bit Magazine (8 bit retro computer magazine) by John Kavanagh — (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/8bitmagazine/eight-bit-magazine?ref=nav_search)
Thanks,
John
Quote from: CPCOxygen on 13:35, 12 March 16
I would like to ask if others like to supply articles for future issues and to ask people here what they would like to see in the magazine. Don't just say "CPC content" ;D
This sounds fun. I was a fan of both WACCI and AA back when they were running, so I'll be interested to see how this goes.
I have a few article ideas for you:
1. A course on making your first game with CPCTelera (I don't know how many issues that would take but I can see it being quite popular)
2. A discussion of the various differences and similarities between the 8-bits. Less of a "mine's better than yours" thing that plagues the scene but instead a focus on how each machine approached the same issues (TV output, sound, graphic output, etc)
3. Reviews of the latest games coming out for the various systems. We've got a fair few new ones these days and it would be good to know which ones to try out (and where to find them).
Good luck with the project, I hope it works out well.
All three sound excellent :) Exactly how I was thinking too. Cheers.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 14:06, 12 March 16
This sounds fun. I was a fan of both WACCI and AA back when they were running, so I'll be interested to see how this goes.
I have a few article ideas for you:
1. A course on making your first game with CPCTelera (I don't know how many issues that would take but I can see it being quite popular)
2. A discussion of the various differences and similarities between the 8-bits. Less of a "mine's better than yours" thing that plagues the scene but instead a focus on how each machine approached the same issues (TV output, sound, graphic output, etc)
3. Reviews of the latest games coming out for the various systems. We've got a fair few new ones these days and it would be good to know which ones to try out (and where to find them).
Good luck with the project, I hope it works out well.
Is it 8 bit home computing only or does it include consoles too?
I would like to see a section of various artworks created using the graphical restrictions of an 8 bit machine. Pixelart created using the CPC/C64/Spectrum or MSX palette.
Also - a section on developing sound effects and music on the various 8 bit machines.
It could be "making an explosion sound" with showing how the effect is created on the CPC, C64 and Spectrum. This would show the different methods on each machine, on how to achieve the sound effect.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 14:06, 12 March 16
I have a few article ideas for you:
1. A course on making your first game with CPCTelera (I don't know how many issues that would take but I can see it being quite popular)
2. A discussion of the various differences and similarities between the 8-bits. Less of a "mine's better than yours" thing that plagues the scene but instead a focus on how each machine approached the same issues (TV output, sound, graphic output, etc)
3. Reviews of the latest games coming out for the various systems. We've got a fair few new ones these days and it would be good to know which ones to try out (and where to find them).
2 of those 3 suggestions are normally carried out on the Wiki and as for your second point, how is a person supposed to read whats printed on the side of a Key, when learning to read the character at the top of a key? ???
Just translate theses excellents magazine to english:
http://www.amstrad.es/publicaciones/publicaciones/rua/index.html (http://www.amstrad.es/publicaciones/publicaciones/rua/index.html)
In France we have "Coté Gamer" that have Amstrad programming tuts (only three issues at the moment), made by Kukulcan
Magazine Généraliste - Côté Gamers (http://www.cotegamers.com/boutique/index.php?id_category=9&controller=category)
Quote from: AMSDOS on 22:47, 12 March 16
2 of those 3 suggestions are normally carried out on the Wiki and as for your second point, how is a person supposed to read whats printed on the side of a Key, when learning to read the character at the top of a key? ???
I'm not sure if you're making a joke here.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 20:40, 13 March 16
I'm not sure if you're making a joke here.
Well I had a look through the CPCTelera material which is online thinking there was some Tutorial Guide for it, but all I could find was a reference manual, which just leaves the CPCTelera posts on the forum, which is in a mess anyway because so many New Topics have been started on that Library. A magazine at least can put some order into it with a series to guide someone through it, though because it's C language, examples would tend to take up space, which is where a webpage has an advantage.
I think Reviews of new programs has become a touchy touchy subject and just seems better to announce them, which is what the Wiki does, and let people decide for themselves.
As for the differences between machines, I've never seen an article which doesn't take pot shots at other machines.
So your post was, basically, "I don't think it'll work so I'll just take the piss"? Lovely. Thanks for that.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 23:40, 13 March 16
So your post was, basically, "I don't think it'll work so I'll just take the piss"? Lovely. Thanks for that.
Well no, a tutorial would be good, but I'm just looking at issue of space. When AA was coming to a close they were still doing Assembly guides, but were able to put their source code on their Covertape which would work, though I guess this Eight Bit Magazine would have to have some sort of Cover bounded media, for that to work.
Covertapes are unnecessary these days for things like that. The source code can be made available on the magazine's website, if space is a problem.
It would be real retro though.....
I like the idea (because I love retro paper magazines) and I backed.
There was also Skrolli (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/skrolli-a-printed-computer-culture-magazine#/) on indiegogo I think which seems very interesting.
Ah, good that you announced that here :) Gonna back it, good luck!!
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 10:09, 14 March 16
Covertapes are unnecessary these days for things like that. The source code can be made available on the magazine's website, if space is a problem.
Ok, so you are *already* on this website, right?
EDIT: It's great to have things on a website instead of typing them in (well, ok, fun for some too, why not?). And it's great to have a paper copy too. But honestly if I'm visiting a webpage, then I don't need the paper copy for the same thing. Just my opinion.
And I won't quote on offensive / trolling comments here, just saying. ;)
Quote from: TFM on 19:23, 14 March 16
Ok, so you are *already* on this website, right?
No. You seem to be missing the point, and I have a feeling you're doing it deliberately.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 20:18, 14 March 16
No. You seem to be missing the point, and I have a feeling you're doing it deliberately.
I have an upcoming déjà-vu... ;)
At the end of such articles there could be a QR-code, linking to the download of a listing. In this case it would be an useful combination between old technology (print) and modern technology.
QR codes are awesome, they should be more widely used IMO.
The CPC telera tutorial would be awesome. Believe it or not (@AMSDOS, @TFM) we are not all full competent coders here, having never progressed from locomotive basic myself, having found assembler too intimidating, a tutorial on the new tools for coding on the retro platforms would be awesome. I am looking forward to this project for this content alone.
Backed :)
Even though I don't know the first thing about coding I do like reading about it and I would like to know more about how to use cpctelera so a tutorial is a fantastic idea to me.
Quote from: CraigsBar on 22:58, 14 March 16
The CPC telera tutorial would be awesome. Believe it or not (@AMSDOS, @TFM (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=179)) we are not all full competent coders here, having never progressed from locomotive basic myself, having found assembler too intimidating, a tutorial on the new tools for coding on the retro platforms would be awesome. I am looking forward to this project for this content alone.
Backed :)
Wasn't suggesting otherwise, but CPCTelera is a C Based Library, so example code may take up some space due to the nature. The good news is the Library wouldn't need to be published in the Magazine, so it can simply tackle with the commands. Before the tutorial gets to that point though, it probably needs a guide for installing the Library as people have vented their frustrations on the Forum about it, though I did notice something like that on their site, though it seems to be more complex as people have different things happening on their system.
As for being competent coder, my programs/routines speak for themselves, even when I look over my Pascal code, I can see in places where I could of made it better. My Assembly only exists from understanding "LD" instructions well, I've used Loops (which I still need to reference from Books to obtain the appropriate one) and some Math Instructions, the rest of it is relying on Firmware.
The magazine seems promising... BACKED! :D
Thanks to everybody for the support. Five days in and we're more than 60 percent backed. To answer a few questions:
The magazine will be for 8 bit computers only.
I like the idea of using QR codes.
Skrolli look great. Similar to what we want to do with EBM.
Quote from: CPCOxygen on 12:58, 15 March 16
Thanks to everybody for the support. Five days in and we're more than 60 percent backed. To answer a few questions:
The magazine will be for 8 bit computers only.
I like the idea of using QR codes.
Skrolli look great. Similar to what we want to do with EBM.
How about a covertape that contains a QR Code as an amstrad picture file! Load the tape, scan the code! :D
Bryce.
As many people say, QR-codes are a very good idea to implement. However, I'd suggest including listings in the magazine (or, at least, the more important ones). Take into account that websites tend to disappear over time. Magazines can last way longer than websites, and they will be left pointing to a desappeared site. So, I'd suggest including the more important lists in-print, so that people will always have that listings, even if websites disappear in the future.
Anyways, I love QR-codes and consider them a good idea, be it as a digital copy of the listings, or as a "more listings here".
QR codes can hold 2000 bytes of data.
That's a tiny demo or very simple binary game right there, but how to get that into a CPC??
Quote from: arnoldemu on 14:14, 15 March 16
QR codes can hold 2000 bytes of data.
That's a tiny demo or very simple binary game right there, but how to get that into a CPC??
Sounds like there's the first type-in for the new magazine: a QR-to-machine code converter! :D
Quote from: arnoldemu on 14:14, 15 March 16
QR codes can hold 2000 bytes of data.
That's a tiny demo or very simple binary game right there, but how to get that into a CPC??
Ooooo, project idea.... QR Code reader for the CPC :)
Bryce.
Quote from: ronaldo on 13:55, 15 March 16
Take into account that websites tend to disappear over time. Magazines can last way longer than websites, and they will be left pointing to a desappeared site. So, I'd suggest including the more important lists in-print, so that people will always have that listings, even if websites disappear in the future.
I think nobody would mind if those CPC-related listings would be preserved also here. Maybe the original site dissapears one day, but I'm quite sure that someone who is really interested in a few years would find his way to the wiki. You could also include this information in the mag...
Quote from: ronaldo on 13:55, 15 March 16
As many people say, QR-codes are a very good idea to implement. However, I'd suggest including listings in the magazine (or, at least, the more important ones). Take into account that websites tend to disappear over time. Magazines can last way longer than websites, and they will be left pointing to a desappeared site. So, I'd suggest including the more important lists in-print, so that people will always have that listings, even if websites disappear in the future.
Quote from: villain on 15:30, 15 March 16
I think nobody would mind if those CPC-related listings would be preserved also here. Maybe the original site dissapears one day, but I'm quite sure that someone who is really interested in a few years would find his way to the wiki. You could also include this information in the mag...
My problem with the web is also that sites tend to disappear.
My suggestion is that all listings gets an identifier of some sort, for example something as simple as a number... e.g. "<Magazinename> listing 378", so that all listings may be found "just online" - not on any particular site, but "just online" - simply by Googling for it. And anyone who wish to host the listings should be allowed to do so.
The QR code could be the Google search call.
Quote from: mr_lou on 17:11, 15 March 16
My problem with the web is also that sites tend to disappear.
I will never forget Malc Jennings and how he just left the CPC-scene after for years running the main CPC site. No one got the chance to take over and keep it running. Luckily Gryzor started another site. But unfortunately much webcontent and forum discussions were lost forever.
I can't even remember the name of the site anymore. Anyone?
Quote from: CraigsBar on 22:58, 14 March 16
The CPC telera tutorial would be awesome. Believe it or not (@AMSDOS, @TFM (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=179)) we are not all full competent coders here, having never progressed from locomotive basic myself, having found assembler too intimidating, a tutorial on the new tools for coding on the retro platforms would be awesome. I am looking forward to this project for this content alone.
Backed :)
Absolutely, especially CPCtelera would deserve it. :)
Quote from: ivarf on 17:25, 15 March 16
I can't even remember the name of the site anymore. Anyone?
Quote from: SuTeKH/Epyteor on 18:32, 15 March 16
Thanks, is that an old screen grab from the site? I got nothing but advertisements when I just tried it
Quote from: ivarf on 18:44, 15 March 16
Thanks, is that an old screen grab from the site? I got nothing but advertisements when I just tried it
Yeah, it's an olde screenie. I was proud of the ACU Type-In project ervin, Johnny Olsen and I completed.
QR codes? For the love of the gods... I always hated QR codes, even as a marketer myself. And in this case, totally useless. Take my phone out to take a photo to get me the link to share it via email so I can check it out on my PC? Yeah, no thanks. better have a short url or something in there and be done with it.
Quote from: Gryzor on 20:19, 16 March 16
QR codes? For the love of the gods... I always hated QR codes, even as a marketer myself. And in this case, totally useless. Take my phone out to take a photo to get me the link to share it via email so I can check it out on my PC? Yeah, no thanks. better have a short url or something in there and be done with it.
Not a huge fan of QR codes here either.
But the "short url" you talk about, could be an identifier. E.g. "MagNameListing378". Should be easy to remember and easy to type into Google. Much more dynamic, less static, lives longer.
Quote from: mr_lou on 20:36, 16 March 16
Not a huge fan of QR codes here either.
But the "short url" you talk about, could be an identifier. E.g. "MagNameListing378". Should be easy to remember and easy to type into Google. Much more dynamic, less static, lives longer.
Oh, very true, plus there are lots of free scripts out there to create short urls anyhow if you don't want to have URLs limited by that.
Personally I reckon a Jumpdrive or SD Card on the front cover would do nicely. An 8Gb Drive is dirt cheap, you'd get a whole tutorial on it, along with the whole Magazine (for those with eBooks or Tablets), no Downloads (or viruses) to worry about, no internet pages disappearing, purchaser pays for something that is only available from the product itself, so every computer could have their own section with selection of programs (public domain) on that media.
Quote from: AMSDOS on 10:34, 17 March 16
Personally I reckon a Jumpdrive or SD Card on the front cover would do nicely. .... no Downloads (or viruses) to worry about
Unless you have any centrifuges kicking about, I guess? ;)
On topic, this looks interesting, how many different 8 bits were aiming to be covered? I'm just remembering that I quickly went off the multiformat mags as their coverage was very much split along UK market share lines leaving not much on the CPC.
Quote from: Gryzor on 20:40, 16 March 16
Oh, very true, plus there are lots of free scripts out there to create short urls anyhow if you don't want to have URLs limited by that.
The problem with Short URLs is that they die. I created a couple as a test a few years ago on dft.ba and now they are all inaccessible because the site died. Some of my Google short links still work, but it's only a matter of time before they drop out, too (and if you don't think Google will eventually disappear, you probably weren't around when Yahoo! and AltaVista were vying for the top spot).
A keyword for each listing would be far longer-lasting than a short url; which is what I think @mr_lou (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) was talking about. It doesn't matter how old a book is, as long as it has an ISBN you can find that exact edition and the same would be true for a listing marked with an identifier.
I assumed the links would point to the magazine's server - so if the site died, it died, short urls or not...
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:49, 17 March 16
I assumed the links would point to the magazine's server - so if the site died, it died, short urls or not...
Yes, that's true. However, if each listing has a keyword/code associated with it (eg "8bit listing 12") then it can be looked up in any search engine, the same way that a specific book can be looked up from its ISBN. Thus any website hosting information about it in the future would be found based on that keyword.
It's the same way that by running a search for "Amstrad Action Action Pack 12" I can pull up details about what was on that specific tape (http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/19855/Amstrad-Action-Pack-(Tape-12)/) even though AA is long since gone.
Quote from: Axelay on 11:20, 17 March 16
Unless you have any centrifuges kicking about, I guess? ;)
Don't understand. Would of thought a SD card bundled with Magazine would be favourable, back in the day when AA was going I guess a Tape was easier to duplicate, around 10-15 years ago magazines were bundled with CDs/DVDs, and even when AA was still going, something like an Amiga or Atari St magazine had floppy disks, which I just presumed would have been harder to duplicate on mass.
Quote from: AMSDOS on 22:25, 17 March 16
Don't understand.
I think this was a joke about the Stuxnet virus.
Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 00:07, 18 March 16
I think this was a joke about the Stuxnet virus.
It's possible I guess that if you were in the business of copying for the purpose of mass distribution, a hacker is going to try and get in and compromise your system, which is just sheer evil.
Quote from: AMSDOS on 01:03, 18 March 16
It's possible I guess that if you were in the business of copying for the purpose of mass distribution, a hacker is going to try and get in and compromise your system, which is just sheer evil.
Yeah, imagine the worldwide political havoc you could cause by getting your virus on to an isolated 80's 8-bit computer! :D I doubt the card would be high on hackers priority list.
Bryce.
Gesendet von meinem Motorola DynaTEC 8000X mit Tapatalk 2.
Quote from: Bryce on 22:05, 18 March 16
Yeah, imagine the worldwide political havoc you could cause by getting your virus on to an isolated 80's 8-bit computer! :D I doubt the card would be high on hackers priority list.
Bryce.
Gesendet von meinem Motorola DynaTEC 8000X mit Tapatalk 2.
Well I'm just looking at it from what the company does POV and distributing bad content which could potentially fall onto many systems and do all kinds of damage the CPC wouldn't be considered a target.
What an excellent idea. Just pledged and signed up. Look forward to the magazine. :)
Quote from: AMSDOS on 03:24, 19 March 16
Well I'm just looking at it from what the company does POV and distributing bad content which could potentially fall onto many systems and do all kinds of damage the CPC wouldn't be considered a target.
Never mind, I think you got a valid point. There was a CPC virus before, so yes, there is a potential thread. And as we know some CPC emulators can take over the PC from CPC side and f.e. write to the hard disc, and, and, and...
Just a heads up letting everyone know there is still 18 days left to back the Eight Bit Magazine project. See here:
8-Bit Magazine (Amstrad, Atari, Apple, Commodore, Sinclair) by John Kavanagh — (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/8bitmagazine/eight-bit-magazine)
So far there's general retro articles, Commodore 64, Apple 2 and Amstrad CPC related stuff. Strangely Spectrum articles are lacking as nobody submitted anything. I'm trying to get a good balance but it's not easy, even with 60 pages ;)
If anyone want to submit articles or stuff for me to review or even just a news story please contact me at cpcoxygen (gmail-com) If it don't make issue 1 it will make issue 2. I would love to get in contact with someone willing to write a game programming series for the CPC. If anyone interested please contact me and we discuss..... emmmm rewards..... ;D
Thanks to everyone who have supported the magazine so far, from those who offered advice and good wishes, to those who backed the project and to those who submitted content, thank you all.
John
[Edit - changed your email to prevent harvesting by spambots... - Gryzor]
Hi John,
Can you tell how much CPC stuff will be in it? How is it biased? From the title picture I assume it's having the commodore computers as hot spot. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just asking out of curiosity. :)
Quote from: TFM on 16:15, 21 April 16
Hi John,
Can you tell how much CPC stuff will be in it? How is it biased? From the title picture I assume it's having the commodore computers as hot spot. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Just asking out of curiosity. :)
Most articles in this issue are of general interest. The main feature article this issue is the Commodore 64. In issue two it'll be the CPC and in Issue 3 something else. The magazine aim to cover content for all 8-bit computers. Examples of article in this issue:Commodore 64, cover feature exploring the technical abilities of the Commodore 64
Genesis - article about the beginning of home computers up to the 8-bitsA article about a computer made in Yugoslavia in the 1980's40th Anniversary of Apple (covering the 8-bits)Assembly programming (covering the Z80 and 6502/6510)Hardware Reviews (covering Amstrad CPC and Commodore 64)Game Reviews (so far CPC, C64 and Spectrum)A few extra bits and piecesIn issue two I want to cover the Amstrad CPC, so if anyone wants to contribute to that they are welcome, for example a FutureOS segment maybe ;-)I would also like to get an assembly programming series done, basically hand holding the reader from BASIC to creating a game in Assembly.Would also like to cover hardware reviews as they come, yes, finally an excuse to purchase loads of hardware ;-)Also game reviews for different platforms etc.The magazine might be more biased towards one platform over the other in a issue but generally we try to balance it out and to also cover general 8-bit contents. Even less popular 8 bits will get covered time to time, e.g. Memotech MTX.Hope that answers your question?
Sounds like a well thought concept! :)
Issue 2 of Eight Bit Magazine is now a live project on Kickstarter: :o
Click here to view it: 8-bit Magazine Issue 2 (Amstrad, Commodore, Sinclair & more) by John Kavanagh (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/8bitmagazine/8-bit-magazine-issue-2-amstrad-commodore-sinclair)
Also since this is a tips and tricks special please PM me here or on our Facebook page to submit your tip or trick. It can be a programming trick, useful or fun or a hardware trick, and yes, the best few tips and tricks deserves free issues in the post :D
(http://www.eightbitmagazine.com/img/issue2.jpg)
Ooh, backing this tonight! Really enjoyed the feel of #1. But please, please, do some serious editing and proofreading before printing!
Tips & tricks?! What happened to our CPC lead feature article? :D
Backed! (need to keep an eye on the competition!)
Backed! :D :D
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:46, 17 August 16
Ooh, backing this tonight! Really enjoyed the feel of #1. But please, please, do some serious editing and proofreading before printing!
Yes I got the right person for the job. She can spot errors while blindfolded and stuffed in a cement mixer - she's that good! :P
Quote from: Skunkfish on 09:02, 17 August 16
Tips & tricks?! What happened to our CPC lead feature article? :D
Backed! (need to keep an eye on the competition!)
Issue 3, a great big photo of the CPC on the cover to the horror of everybody else ;D Speaking of which, do anyone have a good photo to use for the cover of Issue 3? Especially a 664 :-) If not I'll have to do some serious photo editing to make my 464 look shiny and new :-)
It's great to see the competition backing each other :-)
If you need professional pictures of the Amstrad range I could make some... :) The problem is that here, in UK, I only have a 464 Plus and a 6128 Plus :picard:
Quote from: CPCOxygenYes I got the right person for the job. She can spot errors while blindfolded and stuffed in a cement mixer - she's that good! :P
This is not how you're supposed to conduct job interviews!
It's a real pity we don't have great, studio and professional quality photos of the CPC range... Such a shame.
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:14, 18 August 16
It's a real pity we don't have great, studio and professional quality photos of the CPC range... Such a shame.
We could see who produces the best photo of a 464, 664 or 6128 and offer a prize? ;D
Oh I'll just give a camera to my niece and get her to photograph my 6128 and 6128 Plus... she's a professional
Quote from: CPCOxygen on 18:24, 19 August 16
We could see who produces the best photo of a 464, 664 or 6128 and offer a prize? ;D
Dr logo disk.
There's enough of them around.
Yesterday I received the issue 2. I was a great read and I enjoyed it a lot :D . Thank you so much for the more than generous review of our adventure! :D
Looking forward to the Issue 3!
P.D: by the way, I will be in Spain for a couple of weeks in January, where the vast majority of my Amstrad collection is. Do you still need high quality pictures of the computers? I have all the models over there with their original color screens (including a 472). The only missing one is the 664. They are normal Amstrads, no Schneiders, sorry :-X
Cool, cool. Looking forward to receive my copy. Just in time for Christmas!
I really enjoyed the 2nd issue, even if there are some typos etc. in it. Thanks!
Still waiting to receive mine :( I hope it didn't get lost!
Give it another few days, if you don't receive it by then let me know.
Quote from: reidrac on 11:29, 30 December 16
Still waiting to receive mine :( I hope it didn't get lost!
Quote from: ||C|-|E|| on 13:06, 22 December 16
Yesterday I received the issue 2. I was a great read and I enjoyed it a lot :D . Thank you so much for the more than generous review of our adventure! :D
Looking forward to the Issue 3!
P.D: by the way, I will be in Spain for a couple of weeks in January, where the vast majority of my Amstrad collection is. Do you still need high quality pictures of the computers? I have all the models over there with their original color screens (including a 472). The only missing one is the 664. They are normal Amstrads, no Schneiders, sorry :-X
Glad you enjoyed issue 2. The review was fair, totally enjoyable. If it was bad I would have said so, in a nice way of course :)
We received a few photos of a 464 which looked great, but more a certainly welcome, especially the 6128. If anyone has a 664 we would love avoid photo.
All photos submitted will remain the property of the person who took the photo and the person supplied it will receive a thank you printed in the magazine if they wish.
Received issue 2 all the way in New Zealand in between the Christmas / New Year break. Excellent read.
I especially enjoyed the programming comparisons between the different computers.
I will be investing in future issues for sure! :)
Quote from: CPCOxygen on 21:26, 31 December 16
Give it another few days, if you don't receive it by then let me know.
Yep, got it today! Thanks!