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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #30 on: 20:06, 16 July 10 »
@Mr_lou: I find it rather stunning that you don't understand that what you say could be equally achieved by doing what I suggested. People are not stupid (generally speaking, at least here, at least that's what I like to think) so that ever-subtle hint would sow the idea you seek to infuse. And I find it *absolutely* stunning that you haven't seen all the ideas that have flourished from this and similar communities... the mind boggles.

@TFM: as a holder of a very tough B.Sc. in Economic science and a couple postgrad degreeds in relevant matters, I can tell you that competitive (or comparative) advantage has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with teamwork or working alone. If that's what you have understood then clearly you haven't seen a single diagram explaining how it works. Plus, there are two funny things here: one, YOU suggested something going totally against the grain of collaboration ("do it yourself"), and two, competitive advantage is ALL for teamwork, just in broader areas. That's what you don't understand.

Oh, also: competitive advantage has been proven to be wrong? Let me LOL: HA, HA, HAR!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D !!!!????!!!11!

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #31 on: 21:32, 16 July 10 »
@Gryzor: Hey Genius! Since german is no problem for you, I can only say: Der Kl├╝gere gibt nach ;-)
 
And these  :D  are really disgusting!
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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #32 on: 21:43, 16 July 10 »
 :police: "So, I have this idea that we could set up the alarm system to automatically go online at 8 o'clock every evening."
 8) "You know, you can just turn it on manually at 8 o'clock"
 :police: "Yea, but it would be nice if it was automatic"
 8) "But you can achieve the same by doing it manually"
 :police: "No dude, I cannot. The difference is, I have to do some work with the manual solution."
 8) "WTF?! I'm bloody flourishing you with ideas here! Mind boggling."
 :police: "...right."

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #33 on: 21:54, 16 July 10 »
This  8)  guy seems to be really bullheaded!?!
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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #34 on: 02:17, 17 July 10 »
I'm really sorry for all the mess. Next time I do a software, I'll call it *cpc* Starkos or *Windows* Arkos Tracker. That will settle all this.

Yuk.

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #35 on: 08:41, 17 July 10 »
This has gone from ridiculous to interesting-experiment. Goal: Try to succeed in explaining the difference to the community. Maybe I need a poll: Do you get it? Yes/No

I'm really sorry for all the mess. Next time I do a software, I'll call it *cpc* Starkos or *Windows* Arkos Tracker. That will settle all this.

Difficult to know if you're being ironic or not at this stage, but it will settle nothing, that one developer or one news-writer does it, in relation to what I'm talking about. Sure, it'll be nice for that one piece of news, or that one piece of software. (And you're right that putting platform in the name of the product does automatically put it in all (I should hope) future news-posts too of course, so actually great alternative idea in that respect. But I'm pretty sure that less developers would put the platform in the name of their product, than news-writers would put it in their title).

And it really has no real effect before everything starts doing it. I'm wondering how many times I'll need to keep writing that before most members of this forum gets it. Maybe if I use some cases, in which we pretend there are 20 news-posts (and let's pretend they're all written in English as well).

CASE 1: All product developers and/or news-writers puts platform in the title of their product and/or news
Result: Newsbot gives me a clear overview of what's relevant to me without me needing to open the posts that aren't relevant to me. I find that maybe 7 of them are relevant to me. It took me 15 seconds to learn that, by looking at the overview. Wow! I find that to be quite groovy, that I could read what platform the app/game was for in the title.

CASE 2: All product developers and/or news-writers does as they've always done
Result: Alrighty, I have to click and open each of the 20 news-posts and see if the description contains something about platform. It probably doesn't, in which case I have to mail the author and ask, or visit his webpage to find out. Hmm... no, I'm too lazy to spend 15 minutes reading through all of those 20 posts, considering how little of it usually is relevant to me. So I end up not reading any of the news at all.

Now, I know that according to Einstein, time is relevant. But to me, there's a significant difference between 15 seconds and 15 minutes regardless of other circumstances. So I'm just puzzled how anyone can claim that I can achieve the same by asking the author about platform, or even just click the news-item and read.
YES! I KNOW I CAN DO THAT IN LACK OF BETTER, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE!

And let me repeat another thing: I do not expect people to start putting the platform in the name or their product or title of their news-post. I don't think it'll happen. It was just an idea. Getting a single person to understand the advantages of an idea can be hard enough sometimes, but getting a group of people to, is clearly a mission impossible. At this stage, it seems that it's best to never speak out about something that could be nice-to-have, when I know it'll never happen.
And this has never been a debate about getting people to do so or not. It has never been a discussion about setting a global standard. That's impossible. It has only been a debate about whether or not it would be beneficial if they did. Purely wishful thinking.
However, it's getting interesting to see how many posts is required for people to get that.

 :police: "It would be nice if all CPC news could be assembled into 1 filtered RSS feed"
 8) "You know, you can achieve the same by looking at the newsbot posts at CPC wiki"
 :police: "No dude, I cannot. That is not an RSS feed"
 8) "So? It gives you the same info"
 :police: "Let me speak slower. The keyword here is  R S S   f e e d.  And besides, the newsbot doesn't allow me to filter out anything. See? That's 2 whole differences. Not the same thing."
 8) "Well I don't need it to be a filtered RSS feed, so why would you?"
 :police: "... you're right. Everyone in the world has the same preferences as you. My bad. Sorry."
 8) "Ok I give up, why do you need a filtered RSS?"
 :police: "Because I'm 1) really not interested in French news for one thing. And 2) I'm not interested in Windows shit either. And 3) having an RSS feed would allow me to read the news on my phone. There, I explained it."
 8) "... you know you can achieve the same by asking the author. I can't believe you can't see that."
 :police: ".... anyone? I'm missing an icon of en elephant gun here. Can I have some kind of weapon to insert into this chat please? Anything. Just something that can do some serious damage to that other smiley face, the one with the sunglasses."
 8) "...It could be nice if someone game me a million euro"
 :police: "..."
 8) "Yea, that would be sweet."
 :police: "Hey, you can get a million euro by working hard and   saving up."
 8) "...yea, you're right."
 :police: "...not the same thing though, is it?"
 8) "...no"
 :police: " ;) "

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #36 on: 09:41, 17 July 10 »
I'm sorry, but right now I feel like:
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:)

But, hey, how could you build a filtered RSS feed? This would require some serious tweaking...

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #37 on: 10:40, 17 July 10 »
But, hey, how could you build a filtered RSS feed? This would require some serious tweaking...

Well I can't, can I? Again, that's not what it's about.
It's only about, that: It could be sweet, if I could.

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #38 on: 12:56, 17 July 10 »
MrLou : I haven't read your stuff. My last message was a joke. Oh, well...

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Re: Octoate's News - Arkos Tracker v1.0 ***FOR WINDOWS***
« Reply #39 on: 13:05, 17 July 10 »
Don't worry. The reply is for those who didn't interpret it as a joke. It wasn't for you specifically.