In about 2 weeks, the ReSeT #8 will open doors for 3 days of CPC...
This edition has an international-side with the presence of sceners or productions from 7 nations at least.
It's not too late to submit your entry for the competitions or to plan your trip to come to this meeting organized by the Benediction crew.
More infos:
ReSeT #8 | The Amstrad Party | June 22nd to 24th of 2012 in Coutances, France (http://reset.pushnpop.net)
Eliot/Benediction
Organizer
Eliot's meetings are always nice to go thanks to his organisation skills.
If he ever goes for "Président de la République", I will vote for him :-)
Me too!
Nice event, nice peoples, and nice computers.
(6128/6128+ only :-* )
Great that! 464 and 664 are really outdated.
Quote464 and 664 are really outdated.
as we usually say...
CPC6128 and 6128PLUS are really the best Amstrad had to offer...
on board FDC, added RAM and even better CRTC.
I can't even understand why Amstrad didn't simply put 6128 motherboards (despite with a few less components, PLUS style) into the 464 casings after 1985...
664 is rare and actually a piece for museum and collectors...
464+ too, yet the motherboad have the slots to be upgraded into a proper complete PLUS.
and I really have compassion for those who can only get their hands on 464... I understand that depending to your contry you may have no choice, yet... To me it is an "unfinished CPC".
the CPC6128 is still the best CPC old...
compact design, more of everything, a dream come true.
easier for travel too.
And save my ears... ;D
@MacDeath: Nobody could have told it better than you. 100000% agree!!! :) :) :) ;D
The 464, an unfinished CPC? You must be kidding, surely. Just because the 6128 was better doesn't mean that in '84 the poor 464 was not a complete, fantastic machine...
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:43, 30 June 12
The 464, an unfinished CPC? You must be kidding, surely. Just because the 6128 was better doesn't mean that in '84 the poor 464 was not a complete, fantastic machine...
The 464 is THE CPC! :)
The 464 was perfect for its time. The 6128 was an attempt at improving on perfection. It's a great machine but it failed. Technically it was more advanced, but it didn't have the character that the 464 had and still has.
Bryce.
Well, IMO it just depend which computer you had first. In my case it was the 6128. So I never got close to the 464, which was in my eyes imperfect, because it had no FDD. The CPC6128 is for me still just perfection, it can't be improoved - but expanded ;-)
I agree with Bryce and I gotta add that, you can say whatever you want but, the most iconic image representing Amstrad is the classic 464, period! :P
I think we're swinging between extremes; the 6128 failed? You're kidding, surely. Just because the 464 looks better now (back in '86 the 6128 was the bee's knees) doesn't mean the 6128 was a failure!
"Tastes and colours"...
I chose the 6128 because it look more compact and professional than the 464 "Lego toy keys".
And mostly because in 1986, tapes are the past...
Quote from: TotO on 17:51, 01 July 12
"Tastes and colours"...
And mostly because in 1986, tapes are the past...
Yeah, in France
Quote from: totoAnd mostly because in 1986, tapes are the past...
Sure, except 1 detail : the tapes are still produced ! :D
2010 : end of 3"5 disks production
2009 : end of 3"5 drive production
...
The main handicap of the 6128 was the 464 :P
Btw , who needs physical disks when we have HxC ?
Quote from: fano on 20:14, 01 July 12
The main handicap of the 6128 was the 464 :P
Btw , who needs physical disks when we have HxC ?
Yeah, that was true for all popular 8-bit machines upgraded to 128 Kb. It even holds true for later Amiga models and Atari ST. Not one to my knowledge has managed to establish the later upgraded machine as the default machine coded for
Quote from: GFXOR on 19:57, 01 July 12
2010 : end of 3"5 disks production
2009 : end of 3"5 drive production
Are you serious???
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:03, 01 July 12
I think we're swinging between extremes; the 6128 failed? You're kidding, surely. Just because the 464 looks better now (back in '86 the 6128 was the bee's knees) doesn't mean the 6128 was a failure!
I didn't mean it technically failed, but it just doesn't have the same nostalgic / iconic look of the 464.
Bryce.
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:03, 01 July 12
Just because the 464 looks better now (back in '86 the 6128 was the bee's knees)
I've never liked the look of the disc drives being a sticky-up lump stuck on the the side of the CPC. The 464 design is just perfect. The 664 gets away with having the ugly drive on the side because of the beautiful keys. The 6128 retains the ugly lump and makes the keyboard bland and uninspiring to look at.
Really the 464 is the true icon of the CPC range, even if the others are technically better.
The 464 look like a big toy. 6128 look professional.
So, it's realy depending of "tastes and colours" of each people.
The only 464 on the ReSeT stay on a plastic bag. Nobody use it today.
Instead of saying "the 464 is the best CPC", try to do stuff on it (programming tape Demo or games) to prove that.
And see you on the next ReSeT !!! :)
Hello,
I had a 464 when I was kid, later with a floppy drive... I sold it for an amiga in 1991
Today I have a 6128. despite all the memories I had with my 464, I don't buy one, and don't want it.
Like John Clesse said about Extreme sports:
"Where's the pleasure in that?"
Quote from: TotO on 11:12, 02 July 12
Instead of saying "the 464 is the best CPC", try to do stuff on it (programming tape Demo or games) to prove that.
I can't program in asm and I dont need it to say that 464 is the typical and iconic image of CPCs. For obvious reasons is better a 6128 but I don't love it as much as the toy-looking CPC 464 (it was ment to be sold to kids and so its design makes sense).
Quote from: TotO on 11:12, 02 July 12
The 464 look like a big toy. 6128 look professional.
The 464 has character and charm, the 664 has style, the 6128 just looks like the CPC that had all the fun drained from it.
I wish my laptop had the various green, red and blue keys of the 464. Computers are so boring these days.
Quote from: Carnivac on 12:08, 02 July 12
The 464 has character and charm, the 664 has style, the 6128 just looks like the CPC that had all the fun drained from it.
I wish my laptop had the various green, red and blue keys of the 464. Computers are so boring these days.
You need to trade that laptop in for an..... NC200 ! :D
Bryce.
Quote from: Carnivac on 12:08, 02 July 12
The 464 has character and charm, the 664 has style, the 6128 just looks like the CPC that had all the fun drained from it.
I prefert to have fun with CPC by using it instead of looking it. ;D
Quote from: TotO on 14:11, 02 July 12
I prefert to have fun with CPC by using it instead of looking it. ;D
That's how I feel about a games console I tend to prefer the console to be black and non-distracting as it spends it's time under the TV, away from me and not sticking out so much (Most of my 200+ PS3 games are digital versions downloaded from PSN so I don't even often have to go the console to swap discs much at all as they're on the 640GB hard drive with only a few discs on my shelf that aren't yet available as a download). The joypad is pretty much all I interact with. A computer on the other hand is more a direct hands-on thing so I actually like to have an appealing keyboard that I'll be typing on so much and often looking at while I'm typing (I can touch type but I often find myself kinda staring at the keyboard while I'm thinking of some message or post to type).
I'm still wondering if I can take some of these laptop keys off and paint them to match the 464. Wouldn't know how to accurately paint the words back on though.
Quote from: Bryce on 12:18, 02 July 12
You need to trade that laptop in for an..... NC200 ! :D
Bryce.
Was gonna say that. Lovely little machine.
Quote from: Bryce on 12:18, 02 July 12
You need to trade that laptop in for an..... NC200 ! :D
Bryce.
Didn't know what that was but after looking at it on Wikipedia it looks kinda cool but I'd have absolutely no use for it, even back when it was first released.
Well, you can stare at the NC200 while you work with your CPC6128... ;D
Quote from: Carnivac on 14:18, 02 July 12
(Most of my 200+ PS3 games are digital versions downloaded from PSN so I don't even often have to go the console to swap discs much at all as they're on the 640GB hard drive with only a few discs on my shelf that aren't yet available as a download).
I generally find I can buy the games much cheaper on disc than they are on PSN, although I have recently subscribed to PS+ since there are now quite a few freebies (technically paid for by the subscription, but cheap). btw, Anyone here interested, my PSN ID is Executioner0, but please mention CPCWiki so I know who you are.
Quote from: Executioner on 05:29, 03 July 12
I generally find I can buy the games much cheaper on disc than they are on PSN, although I have recently subscribed to PS+ since there are now quite a few freebies (technically paid for by the subscription, but cheap). btw, Anyone here interested, my PSN ID is Executioner0, but please mention CPCWiki so I know who you are.
[spoiler]
I don't mind paying a bit extra at times for the download for the conveinence of it all (especially since I take my PS3 with me to friends houses when I stay over and it's great having the games just there on the system instead of packing discs too, and besides I don't live near any games shows and downloading is faster than ordering off play.com) and have sold off most of my discs and bought the download versions instead. Just hoping they put Uncharted 3 on PSN cos my disc seems to be having a bit of trouble lately possibly from overuse (it's almost always in that blu ray drive as it's my fave game and I play it very often). They've just put the first two on PSN this week (which I will replace my discs with when I can afford, I bought Ratchet & Clank HD Trilogy instead cos I didn't already own those and I love the previous PS3 games & never got to play the PS2 ones so this is perfect).
I've been a PS+ subscriber for over a year and even before that amazing June deal (so many big games for free, and I had been waiting for inFamous 2 to drop from £49.99 to a more affordable price, never thought they'd make it free though, was so happy :) ) I worked out it had more than paid for itself many times over in discounts and freebies and that's just the games I actually liked too. I didn't even count other freebies of games I didn't care for such as Tomb Raider Underworld. I can't remember when the last time was that I actually had to spend a lot of money on a game.
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I had both a 464 and a 6128. The 464 looked great, the colours were cheerful. The only real fault was the cursor key cluster - but still way better than those computers that had them all in a row!
The 6128 fixed the cursor key cluster - at the cost of ramming the numeric pad up against the main keyboard like some 15" laptops do these days.
The 664 had that lovely blue for the keyboard, but again the cursor keys weren't arranged the best.
I think the 464 represents the CPC to the average person who remembers 80s computers. The 6128 was drab in comparison, but Amstrad were trying to make it appear more professional to parents buying computers for their children to do homework on.
Amstrad should have upped the 464 to 128KB in ~1987 when they did the hardware revision then (as well as reducing the height of the system to match the 6128). It would have provided a new baseline configuration to code against, and encouraged people to buy 64KB expansions for their older CPCs. I guess the impetus wasn't there when the machines were selling well, and a lot of effort went on the Spectrum computers :-(
Why to convert a 464 into a 6128, when the 6128 already exists? And in 1987 nobody wanted to deal with tapes anylonger.
QuoteAnd in 1987 nobody wanted to deal with tapes anylonger.
yeay, in France and im VaterLand...
but the Brits were a lot into it, so were the Spainischenz... Also 464 was quite cheaper.
still, it really should have been upgraded into 4128 somewhere like 1986-1987 at worse...
would have helped a lot the whole game industry.
Double bugffering* would have been the norm.
*pun.
Quote from: Briggsy on 18:17, 03 July 12
The 6128 fixed the cursor key cluster
It did? Personally, I prefer the star shape of the 464 cursor keys. Interestingly, the original IBM which overlaid cursor keys on the numeric pad also had this shape too (cursors on 8,4,6,2).
Quote from: ralferoo on 09:58, 04 July 12
It did? Personally, I prefer the star shape of the 464 cursor keys. Interestingly, the original IBM which overlaid cursor keys on the numeric pad also had this shape too (cursors on 8,4,6,2).
The inverted-T configuration is a far better match for your fingers than the +/diamond configuration. Hence WASD instead of WAXD. Your middle finger is slightly longer, so it can reach up to hit the up cursor, but reaching down isn't so comfortable.
Absolutely right, an if someone plays a game for a while with cursors, then this person will totally agree with you :)
Quote from: ralferoo on 09:58, 04 July 12
It did? Personally, I prefer the star shape of the 464 cursor keys. Interestingly, the original IBM which overlaid cursor keys on the numeric pad also had this shape too (cursors on 8,4,6,2).
It's why, all computers change this keyboard mapping since...
You know, in 70s computers are made for... computing. Nothing was made to be ergonomic.
This poor layout was kept on PC numpad for historical compatibility only, that all.
But, I understand that big case with Lego key, tape drive, half megabit of memory and prehistorical keyboard layout was always the best for enjoying the nostalgia... Please, continue to use it for playing old 80s games and open a thread just for that ! (so I will no more going here to read stuff that was not ReSeT #8 releated)
The only think that I'm nostalgic on 80s was the fact that there is no Internet.
So, peoples that have nothing to say, can't speak. Others can share the knowlage through interesting magazine.
In ReSeT, I only see and spoke with interesting peoples. A real CPC comunity.
Peoples that doing new stuff on a old computer to keep it alive.
Thanks to them and long live to the ReSeT !
Quote from: TotO on 08:36, 05 July 12
The only think that I'm nostalgic on 80s was the fact that there is no Internet.
You mean you didn't have a Minitel terminal? It's you, the Frenchies, that started it all, so stop complaining :D
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:50, 05 July 12
You mean you didn't have a Minitel terminal? It's you, the Frenchies, that started it all, so stop complaining :D
3615 ULLA ? ;D
Minitel stop in France this week... We can now use Internet.
What about a great website with all CPC stuff on it ? :-\
Go to the ReSeT, next year !!!
Ah yes, read about that, a pity really!
On the other hand, welcome to the 21st century! Just don't visit a site called "facebook.com". I hear sex was much easier on Minitel.
Also, fantastic idea about the CPC website, will get right to it!
Quote from: TotO on 09:59, 05 July 12
Go to the ReSeT, next year !!!
Yes, a few more non-French CPC enthusiasts would greatly benefit the community. See what the French community is up to and exchange ideas. Meet people in person rather than reading posts on the 'net.
I've been asking myself why no English frequent the party? Geographically, Coutances is very close to England and especially people from Kent, London up to Cornwall can easily take a ferry to one of the coastal towns in Normandy or Brittany and then go by bus or train.
Even the weather is the same, you'll feel right at home. ;)
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:50, 05 July 12
You mean you didn't have a Minitel terminal? It's you, the Frenchies, that started it all, so stop complaining :D
Only used for 3615 AMCHARGE !
Yeah, you had to pay for every minutes, so it wasn't the online MMO gaming orgy it could have been.
Considering the speed of Minitel, I doubt it was the connection price that held back the MMO gaming orgy :D
Bryce.
Quote from: MaV on 10:31, 05 July 12
I've been asking myself why no English frequent the party? Geographically, Coutances is very close to England and especially people from Kent, London up to Cornwall can easily take a ferry to one of the coastal towns in Normandy or Brittany and then go by bus or train.
Even the weather is the same, you'll feel right at home. ;)
I wanted to go, but it was just far too expensive. Even though it's geographically close, the easiest way for me to get there would be to drive to Portsmouth and back (about £90 return for me), then pay ferry (cheapest I found was £190, the only "convenient" times cost £230), plus a bit more driving on the other side. Compared to somewhere further away, like Evoke which is £120 return flight, £4 for train to/from airport and about £30 in trains from Dusseldorf to Cologne). The flight option is obviously a lot quicker too.
I did really want to go, but it was apparent that even booking a few months in advance wasn't enough to get a sensibly priced ferry, so it was never really an option.
Anyway MMO gaming is evil >:( that prevents regular programming :'(
Quote from: MaV on 10:31, 05 July 12
I've been asking myself why no English frequent the party?
An aversion to good food and wine maybe? You could try offer some pasties and deep fried mars bars next year as a snack and see if that attracts anymore English people? ;)
QuoteI've been asking myself why no English frequent the party?
Colour clashes and Tapes are the answers.
because thay use Tapes, it took them too long to come, hence too late...
Quote from: beaker on 14:20, 05 July 12
deep fried mars bars next year as a snack and see if that attracts anymore English people? ;)
Deep fried mars bars are associated with the scottish. The english generally find deep frying a chocolate bar a very strange thing.
We get as far as the Auchan in Calais, then suddenly have a very heavy car that must return home ASAP. And soon after that we're in no fit state to drive.
Oh, that reminds me of a French joke about why Belgians don't drive in the UK... something about driving to the ferry, seeing a sign for "Pas de Calais" and turning back... *groan*
Quote from: Carnivac on 15:01, 05 July 12
The english generally find deep frying a chocolate bar a very strange thing.
What!?! You should take a more liberal outlook to life... :laugh: We (a group of Southerners) were introducing them to my friends' Asian wife back in May in Australia when we found a chippy in Noosa that sold them...
OK, curry to line our stomachs, a crate of Smirnoffs, some straws so we can neck them down in under 10 seconds, followed later by a dodgy kebab? :P
Quote from: beaker on 16:41, 05 July 12
OK, curry to line our stomachs, a crate of Smirnoffs, some straws so we can neck them down in under 10 seconds, followed later by a dodgy kebab? :P
Now that sounds fine to most englishmen. Not to me though. But then I don't drink, and I dislike pubs and football and being lazy... So I've no right being called english at all apparently. So people say, anyways.
Completely agree with the drinking part but then again I've never been able to hold my grog :laugh:
Quote from: ralferoo on 13:16, 05 July 12
I wanted to go, but it was just far too expensive. Even though it's geographically close, the easiest way for me to get there would be to drive to Portsmouth and back (about £90 return for me), then pay ferry (cheapest I found was £190, the only "convenient" times cost £230), plus a bit more driving on the other side. Compared to somewhere further away, like Evoke which is £120 return flight, £4 for train to/from airport and about £30 in trains from Dusseldorf to Cologne). The flight option is obviously a lot quicker too.
Uff. I was expection much lower prices for the ferries. Thanks for the info! I planned to visit England next year just after the Reset, and a ferry sounded like the right solution (I'd have liked to come this year but Olympia foiled my plans).
Taking a plane (Heathrow - Paris) then a TGV to Caen + TER to Coutances will be cheaper. I'll check our train expenses from this year's visit and let you know. As for the car, you don't need to bring your own CPC, eliot can provide some for you at the party.
Quote from: beaker on 14:20, 05 July 12
An aversion to good food and wine maybe? You could try offer some pasties and deep fried mars bars next year as a snack and see if that attracts anymore English people? ;)
How about: I'll provide a barrel of lard and a pan to fry all dishes that'll be served? ;)
OTOH, quiche might just tickle the palates of our fellow English CPC enthusiasts. :D (I prefer everything else to it, but my wife likes it.)
edit: barrel of lard ... ahem, I haven't had much experience with cockney, so take the phrase literally. :D
You could always consider the Chunnel, their prices are better than the ferries sometimes.
Bryce.
Quote from: MaV on 12:12, 06 July 12
How about: I'll provide a barrel of lard and a pan to fry all dishes that'll be served? ;)
OTOH, quiche might just tickle the palates of our fellow English CPC enthusiasts. :D (I prefer everything else to it, but my wife likes it.)
edit: barrel of lard ... ahem, I haven't had much experience with cockney, so take the phrase literally. :D
A barrel of lard? A barrel? Ain't that a huge amount of lard? I'm still not even quite sure what lard is or what it's purpose is. I've never bought any.
And I think you guys better actually ask english folk what they like rather than trying to come up with some inaccurate and somewhat strange suggestions. I'm partial to steak and chips myself or a large meat feast pizza.
Quote from: Carnivac on 12:25, 06 July 12
And I think you guys better actually ask english folk what they like rather than trying to come up with some inaccurate and somewhat strange suggestions. I'm partial to steak and chips myself or a large meat feast pizza.
You can fry with lard (pig fat). Anyway, this was meant to complement the topic about frying mars bars, and the smileys should have made clear not to take it serious.
Anyway, I'm not the organiser, but I think eliot is open to suggestions.
Quote from: MaV on 12:35, 06 July 12
You can fry with lard (pig fat). Anyway, this was meant to complement the topic about frying mars bars, and the smileys should have made clear not to take it serious.
Anyway, I'm not the organiser, but I think eliot is open to suggestions.
I wasn't taking it seriously. I was just bewildered by some of the comments.
Quote from: MaV on 12:04, 06 July 12
Uff. I was expection much lower prices for the ferries. Thanks for the info! I planned to visit England next year just after the Reset, and a ferry sounded like the right solution (I'd have liked to come this year but Olympia foiled my plans).
Taking a plane (Heathrow - Paris) then a TGV to Caen + TER to Coutances will be cheaper. I'll check our train expenses from this year's visit and let you know. As for the car, you don't need to bring your own CPC, eliot can provide some for you at the party.
Calais to Dover return is the popular option, and so usually much cheaper, however it's still around £90 without a deal and the extra driving would have easily consumed most of the money savings, especially as I believe there's a €20 toll road just out of Calais.
There was a headline rate of £90 for a 5-day return from Portsmouth to Cherbourg, but there seemed to be no way of finding out what days the deal was available on as the price was only displayed at the very end of the process and to change dates you have to restart completely. Perhaps with enough foreplanning, this might work for next year, although I first checked the ferry times about 2.5 months before the party and it was expensive then too...
I was thinking about flying to CDG, but discounted it because the journey within France lookes quite long by train, but perhaps that's a good option to look at again for next year.
I would like to go but price is one problem.
for me going via the chunnel is not a great choice, because it is a long drive to get there, it would have to be flying from our local airport (leeds-bradford).
Ok, so us English may not be physically there, but we can continue to send remote entries :)
Quote from: MaV on 12:12, 06 July 12
How about: I'll provide a barrel of lard and a pan to fry all dishes that'll be served? ;)
OTOH, quiche might just tickle the palates of our fellow English CPC enthusiasts. :D (I prefer everything else to it, but my wife likes it.)
edit: barrel of lard ... ahem, I haven't had much experience with cockney, so take the phrase literally. :D
Only 1 barrel of lard!?! That'll just about do one Full English Breakfast, at a push the Toad In The Hole for dinner I guess... and doesn't the event go on for a couple more days?!?! Don't forget a couple of cases of brown sauce to drown the breakfast in as well :laugh:
lol, my mate calls quiches, "eggy pies". I like them as well - the one I am currently making my way through has sweet red peppers and artichoke hearts as a topping. Nice :P
Quote from: Carnivac on 12:39, 06 July 12
I wasn't taking it seriously. I was just bewildered by some of the comments.
lol, just trying to back up the stereotype that English/British people like bland or wierd food... Personally I reckon you can't beat spam and mint sauce sandwiches ;D
Thinking of lard, have they lifted the ban on LARDY CAKE at Tesco yet? I used to love the heart-attack feeling you'd get from eating a true, British Lardy Cake... washed down with Bird's Custard! Yum yum!
(Oh, yeah... derailed another ReSeT#8 thread! Great job! ^_^)
mmm Lardy Cake... proper stodge! :)
No idea, never had it myself but they sell different things in Ireland's Tesco's to the UK ones. It's once in a blue moon I can get Ginsters Pasties/Sausage Rolls over here (Ireland) for example.
Quote from: ralferoo on 13:18, 06 July 12
I was thinking about flying to CDG, but discounted it because the journey within France lookes quite long by train, but perhaps that's a good option to look at again for next year.
So, I was discussing the possible routes and prices with my wife.
The best connection after landing in Paris seems to be:
TGV: Paris CDG - Rennes (~ 2h30min) and then TER Rennes - Coutances ( ~1h50min)
Add to that having to wait for the train in CDG (could easily be 1 hour) and in Rennes (say another 1h) and you'll be over 6 hours.
If you book ~2 months in advance that route will cost you about 80-100 € (there and back). :/ Add to that the flight from London to Paris and it might not look as good as it seemed to me at first. Then again, you won't have to pay attention to the road all the time.
Back to the ferry option ... if you leave your car at home, how much cheaper will it get (if at all)?
I should be lucky that my wife is happy to plan our holidays around such events.
Quote from: beaker on 15:48, 06 July 12
mint sauce sandwiches ;D
Now that would be an instant winner with me! :D
You do realise that I've scribbled down all the "suggestions" for personal (ab-)use for our trip to England next year. ^_^
QuoteLardy Cake
:o
OMG, not sure if want, I would prefer Bacon chocolate pancakes...
British Bacon-Omelette sandwiches are top tier in my personnal book though.
And we haven't started to mention such traditional delicacies as "Jellied Eels" or "Scotch Eggs" :D They make any foreigner think twice about what they order.
Bryce.
Lard... wtf. I mean, I have tremendous amounts of suspicion for any cuisine that uses animal fat to cook. "Can I have the nuke-an-artery special please? "Well certainly sir, here you go, barrel of lard with complimentary pint of lard. Knock yourself out".
Yes, can be tasty (on occasion!), but if you have the slightest respect for your body (and I'm not even a vegetarian or anything) you'd steer well clear of that...
Ok, I think this thread has been thoroughly derailed. Back on topic?
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:30, 07 July 12
Lard... wtf. I mean, I have tremendous amounts of suspicion for any cuisine that uses animal fat to cook. "Can I have the nuke-an-artery special please? "Well certainly sir, here you go, barrel of lard with complimentary pint of lard. Knock yourself out".
According to a local chippy owner, the most important thing is the correct temperature and lard is able to be heated sufficiently so as to cook the food without soaking in. Olive oil is actually carcinogenic at those high temperatures.
Still, we're talking about food... dipped... in fat. Yikes. Plus, sure, but what percentage of cooks calibrates their equipment?
As for olive oil, who said anything about olive oil? :D Of course you can calibrate your temperature and it will be just as healthy as it is delicious (but very heavy for the stomach), but for deep-frying there's vegetable oil...
Don't get me wrong - I love my steak with its fat and all, but a pot full of fat and my food swimming in it... hell no. You should see what your blood looks like after a few bites of this - cholesterol values are through the roof...
Then again I'm no great dietary expert and maybe it's the difference in cuisines that grosses me out. So apologies if I'm wildly off the mark!
I thought frying in lard was the exception these days in the UK! Certainly everyone I know that deep fries uses Corn Oil or similar (rapeseed?). [size=78%]And you're still meant to drain the fried product thoroughly :-)[/size]
I can't imagine eating something cooked in lard these days, but I think animal fats were standard in many places until the 80s and 90s. Probably still are in some countries!
Potatoes frying in goose fat, with ail and persil.
You don't know what you miss... :D
(far better than my fish & chips and the cheese cake that I eat in London 3 days ago)
Quote from: TotO on 15:36, 09 July 12
Potates frying in goose fat, with ail and persil.
You don't know what you miss... :D
(far better than my fish & chips and the cheese cake that I eat in London 3 days ago)
Oh yeah, potatoes in goose fat is the only way to do roast tatties :D
By Persil, do you mean the cleaning detergent?
Yeah, chippies in the UK are a bit hit or miss these days. Just not the same since you had to change the fat more regularly and couldn't serve them in old newspaper. Really used to add to the taste. I used to enjoy walking miles from Longniddry to Port Seton to get some fresh fish when I was 4 or 5 and as a treat we would have a small cone of chips and stopped off and had a go on the out door trampolines opposite the caravan park on the way back weather permitting :D
Quote from: beaker on 15:52, 09 July 12
By Persil, do you mean the cleaning detergent?
Ugh. No, persil is French for parsley. ;)
Mmmm, animal fat and newspaper ink and recycled third-grade paper, now THAT's cuisine! :D
I didn't say it's not yummy (probably is once you get accustomed to the grease), but I just can't bring myself to eat such foodstuff. Having seen what my centrifuged blood looks like after I've eaten some fat, I'd be imagining all the damage each single bite does to my cardiovascular...
Quote from: MaV on 16:05, 09 July 12
Ugh. No, persil is French for parsley. ;)
I thought it may have been a new recipe from Heston Bloomer :laugh:
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:25, 09 July 12
Mmmm, animal fat and newspaper ink and recycled third-grade paper, now THAT's cuisine! :D
Don't forget the lashings of salt and malt vinegar from a bottle that doesn't look like it's ever been washed... :) Oh and the pickled egg and Savloy on the side...
Quote from: Bryce on 11:01, 07 July 12
And we haven't started to mention such traditional delicacies as "Jellied Eels" or "Scotch Eggs" :D They make any foreigner think twice about what they order.
Ohhh, can't beat a nice Scotch Egg and Melton Mowbray Pork Pie with the one lettuce leaf that constitutes a salad :P
Quote from: MaV on 10:31, 05 July 12
Yes, a few more non-French CPC enthusiasts would greatly benefit the community. See what the French community is up to and exchange ideas. Meet people in person rather than reading posts on the 'net.
I've been asking myself why no English frequent the party? Geographically, Coutances is very close to England and especially people from Kent, London up to Cornwall can easily take a ferry to one of the coastal towns in Normandy or Brittany and then go by bus or train.
Even the weather is the same, you'll feel right at home. ;)
You're right, it's benefit to meet people! :)
Past years, Nich (cpcgamereviews.com) and Optimus/Dirty Minds came from UK via ferries to Cherbourg then bus to the ReSeT place.
World Record to Voxfreax who came 2 times and to Exin who came in the different past french meeting (ReSeT, Croco Chanel and Castellum) and in the international demoparties.
Quote from: TotO on 08:36, 05 July 12
In ReSeT, I only see and spoke with interesting peoples. A real CPC comunity.
Peoples that doing new stuff on a old computer to keep it alive.
Thanks to them and long live to the ReSeT !
Nothing to add! Thanks TotO...
Quote from: TotO on 15:36, 09 July 12
Potates frying in goose fat, with ail and persil.
You don't know what you miss... :D
(far better than my fish & chips and the cheese cake that I eat in London 3 days ago)
Living in London I can tell you that getting good Fish and Chips is very difficult, especially anywhere touristy. Bunch of rip-off merchants. Some of them don't even know how to cook chips, never mind how to get the batter right.
Go to a seaside town with a long-term fishing heritage (e.g., Whitby) and try the Fish and Chips there. It's a different experience entirely!
Potatoes roasted in goose fat is great, but not a long term healthy diet! :-) I generally roast veg in olive oil now (for potatoes it is all about the parboiling beforehand anyway).
Or Padstow. Nice chippy on the sea front and the best fruit de mer I've ever had in Rick Stein's restaurant.
Can somebody please delete Eliot's post? It's absolutely offtopic :P
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Hahaha great one :D
Please, I love fat stuffs but my already clogged arteries don't.
Also, you english peeples eat chips ?
Which ones : CRTC ? Gate Array ? AY ? RAM, ROM ?
You use fat instead of Flux to solder them ?
;D
Funny/puny to see a topic about a French Party too derive that way into food topic...
all of you rest of the world must eat badly actually...
I bet Gordon RAMsay had a CPC in the past.
Belgium friets, done with Horse Fat...
My Little Pony : the power of French-chips.
(yeay, puns everywhere, not sure anyone can undertand them...)
Quote from: MacDeath on 21:16, 15 July 12
Also, you english peeples eat chips ?
Which ones : CRTC ? Gate Array ? AY ? RAM, ROM ?
You use fat instead of Flux to solder them ?
;D
Well at least they don't solder insects to the PCB, like the French do! Those poor fleas! :)
Bryce.
what the flux are you both on about?
every now and then I scrape the solid fat deposits from the circuit board, the cpc appreciates it.
if you get offended... look away now ;)
description of a brit amstrad user:
- has an unexpanded 464
- has a green screen
- enjoys waiting for games to load so they can sit there and eat their chips
- wears a shell suite, hair is messy and filled with chip fat.
- has deep fried mars bars for pudding
- drinking cheap white lightning cider.
.... And doesn't speak a word of French (or any other foreign language for that matter).
Microchip in French = Puce which also means Flea (and bullet point, they really need some more new words in French :) )
Bryce.
Quote from: Bryce on 09:30, 16 July 12Microchip in French = Puce which also means Flea (and bullet point, they really need some more new words in French :) )
Not exactly.
Puce = Chip
Micro-puce = Microchip
Circuit intégré (CI) = Integrated circuit (IC)
...
Sorry but we don't need more than the english use. ;)
But Puce still means flea and bullet-point :)
Bryce.
At least with computers they don't have to spend all their time capturing real fleas and superglueing them to documents.
Anyway, my first CPC was a 464 with green screen! But I never owned a shell suit...
Quote from: Bryce on 11:01, 16 July 12
But Puce still means flea and bullet-point :)
Congratulation Bryce!
You discovered homonyms!!! ;D
Yes, I have issues with my homonyms sometimes, especially in summer, when the girls are wearing very short skirts :D
Bryce.
Quote from: arnoldemu on 09:07, 16 July 12
if you get offended... look away now ;)
description of a brit amstrad user:
- has an unexpanded 464
- has a green screen
- enjoys waiting for games to load so they can sit there and eat their chips
- wears a shell suite, hair is messy and filled with chip fat.
- has deep fried mars bars for pudding
- drinking cheap white lightning cider.
Quote from: Bryce on 09:30, 16 July 12
.... And doesn't speak a word of French (or any other foreign language for that matter).
Oh no, this means I was (almost) a complete stereotype in my grey shell suite and white basketball trainers! I even got an E grade in French at GCSE which I think I got for just turning up at the exam. The only differences are I had a colour monitor and drank those small bottles of cheap French beer you used to buy in Sainsbury's (£5 for 24 bottles or something like that).... Only towards the end did I get my 64k RAM pack.
I remember those little "Continental Lager" 250ml bottles that Sainsbury's sold. Those were the days before I discovered proper ale.
Quote from: Bryce on 13:34, 16 July 12
Yes, I have issues with my homonyms sometimes, especially in summer, when the girls are wearing very short skirts :D
Talking about homonyms, doesn't the beaver trapping season end before summer? :P
Hum... Homonym look to be an homonym too... ;) (namesake)
Quote from: arnoldemu on 09:07, 16 July 12
description of a brit amstrad user:
- has an unexpanded 464
- has a green screen
- no disc drive, enjoys waiting for games to load so they can sit there and eat their chips
Ok, Europe seriously has to increase development aid for the UK.
He forgot to said: "They only play with QAOP keys and mono sound"... :-*