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Hi all!


The release date for 8-bit Memoirs; December 2017, is approaching fast, so it's time for me to start ordering the discs and cases and USB sticks I need in order to create copies for those of you who wish to support the project by buying a physical copy. I would like to create a few copies upfront before receiving any orders.

(Voting in this poll does not constitue a plea to buy. And prices aren't necessarily final either. I will take preorders later for those who wish to be first receivers).

I have come up with 3 different versions to offer:

"Full version" - for the collector
A 25 gb glossy water-shielded Blu-ray Disc with printed label (print-on-disc)
Blu-ray case with printed cover
Expected price (including shipping): 17 Euro

"Budget version" - for the too lazy to download and burn a disc yourself
A 25 gb budget Blu-ray Disc with no printed label, and not water-shielded either
Expected price (including shipping): 11 Euro

"USB version" - for the too lazy to download and copy to USB yourself
A 32 gb USB 2.0 stick for Windows / Linux / Mac. Requires a software media player with BD-J support to run (like e.g. VLC or PowerDVD). USB stick can be wiped and used for other stuff later if you want.
Expected price (including shipping): 23 Euro
Note about this version though: VLC isn't 100% ready for the project yet. VLC authors still need to implement a POPUP MENU button and/or catch number-keys on the keyboard. I have notified them about this, so hopefully it'll be implemented before December.

And remember, the whole project can also be downloaded for free. So these "commercial" versions are only for those of you who wish to support the project and/or is too lazy to download 25 gb and burn to a disc yourself.

Please vote to give me an idea of what to expect.

Thank you.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #1 on: 15:06, 13 September 17 »
Hm, there appears to be a serious lack of interest in my project.

Maybe people don't appreciate CPC oriented diskmag-like creations as much as I thought they would.

To find out if that's the case, I've added a 5th option to the poll.

Please vote.
My eBook about experiencing the Amstrad CPC (and others) as a kid, will be released December 2017!!!
Please help me out by letting me know about your interest by voting in this poll! Thanks!!!

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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #2 on: 20:46, 13 September 17 »

It all depends on the content. I guess most people here are not sure what to expect yet. 25 GB CPC orientated diskmag, what really is that? We are used to less than 180kB discmags


Maybe you could give a preview?

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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #3 on: 20:59, 13 September 17 »
It all depends on the content. I guess most people here are not sure what to expect yet. 25 GB CPC orientated diskmag, what really is that? We are used to less than 180kB discmags

Maybe you could give a preview?

There's an old YouTube preview at http://8bitmemoirs.com/
Gives you an idea of the atmosphere.

The reason for the 25 gb is because of all the videos and music I've included.

It's not really a diskmag though. It's just kinda diskmag-like. Diskmag'ish.
It's actually an eBook, built like a diskmag, to boost the retro feeling.
It's a book about experiencing the CPC (and others) as a kid.
My eBook about experiencing the Amstrad CPC (and others) as a kid, will be released December 2017!!!
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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #4 on: 21:24, 13 September 17 »

Superman Cartoon from 1942 wow. I have to check if I find some of it on youtube...
Video 2000, never seen one of those. Were they popular in Denmark? Philips video 2000 had the best picture quality of the 3 formats have I heard.


I liked hearing about Zorro and how you experienced it as a child as well as seeing some gameplay.
I do not have a blueray player (yet), so I will go for the ISO-version when available.


Thank you for the read and experience

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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #5 on: 21:31, 13 September 17 »
Superman Cartoon from 1942 wow. I have to check if I find some of it on youtube...



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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #6 on: 13:44, 14 September 17 »
The BLU-Ray Full Version sounds good! Where do I pay though?

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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #7 on: 14:29, 14 September 17 »
The BLU-Ray Full Version sounds good! Where do I pay though?

I was thinking of handling it through eBay.
But you gotta wait till December.  :)
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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #8 on: 23:22, 14 September 17 »
Hm, there appears to be a serious lack of interest in my project.

Maybe people don't appreciate CPC oriented diskmag-like creations as much as I thought they would.

To find out if that's the case, I've added a 5th option to the poll.

Please vote.
Opinion time here, and please do not take this personally as I still have an interest in seeing the final product.

It's not so much a lack of interest, but between the awkwardness of the formats and the size of it (a blu-ray magazine, and 25GB worth?) and the length of time it took for the first one to arrive, it's been a long time. I'm guessing for some (and I only speak for myself here), the wait has been a bit too long an it's a case of believe it when they see it.

Too much media content can kill a project like this too, I believe. We're a retro community, so I'm not really sure how much of a success a retro based mag will be when it's covered in videos. Myself, personally, I like to read stuff, if I want to watch videos, I'll go to youtube gaming.

Also in an era where physical media is dead, I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly download. While I appreciate the time and effort you've put into this, I think it's just simply a case of it's dragged it's heels for too long and now that it's near completion, few people will pay that much for a blu-ray, a format that's slowly dying on it's knees thanks to streaming media and digital downloads and the postage costs when the download is freely available.
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Re: Which version of 8-bit Memoirs issue #1 do you expect to get?
« Reply #9 on: 01:36, 15 September 17 »
Opinion time here, and please do not take this personally as I still have an interest in seeing the final product.

It's not so much a lack of interest, but between the awkwardness of the formats and the size of it (a blu-ray magazine, and 25GB worth?) and the length of time it took for the first one to arrive, it's been a long time. I'm guessing for some (and I only speak for myself here), the wait has been a bit too long an it's a case of believe it when they see it.

Too much media content can kill a project like this too, I believe. We're a retro community, so I'm not really sure how much of a success a retro based mag will be when it's covered in videos. Myself, personally, I like to read stuff, if I want to watch videos, I'll go to youtube gaming.

Also in an era where physical media is dead, I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly download. While I appreciate the time and effort you've put into this, I think it's just simply a case of it's dragged it's heels for too long and now that it's near completion, few people will pay that much for a blu-ray, a format that's slowly dying on it's knees thanks to streaming media and digital downloads and the postage costs when the download is freely available.

Thanks for the feedback.

Well it's definitely true that issue #1 took far longer to create that I thought. But just to make sure there's no misunderstanding here: This is not really a mag, and I will not be producing any future issues.
8-bit Memoirs is a book. An eBook. With supplemental videos and background music for reading. So it's "an expanded book", but still just a book.
The idea is that other people will want to share their own stories too, when reading issue #1. Thus, each issue will be authored by different people.

Maybe there'll never be an issue #2. Depends entirely if anyone else will write it. Issue #1 is my issue. Anyone else is free to create future issues (which I would personally love to read). But issue #1 can easily stand alone too if that's how it ends.
Each author picks his own target platform. So issue #1 could easily be the only time Blu-ray is used. ;-)

But I also think I had to spend the extra necessary time to make this first issue as complete as possible. If there should be any chance of success, I couldn't put out a half finished project here.
I don't expect any future issues to be this big at all.

So the book is about how I experienced the Amstrad CPC (and others) back then as a kid. All the videos are merely supplemental to the stories. Optional to watch. Just nice to have available and handy when reading.
For example, I could be writing about the time I created something in BASIC, and add screenshots in the story. And then I'll add a video too for those curious to see the creation "live". You don't have to watch the videos if you just wanna read the stories - and vice versa.
For the first 4 years of the project, the plan was also to create a phone version without all the videos, and with a smaller background music playlist too. I might still do this later.

I can't consider Blu-ray media dead before the major gaming-consoles stops using it. But in any case, streaming media could never do this. This couldn't be turned into a bunch of videos. I've tried to explain this many times, but I just can't seem to get through to anyone:

8-bit Memoirs is a book. Streaming media doesn't allow you to do this. The only way I could turn 8-bit Memoirs into pure video would be to record it while I browse through the pages, like filming myself reading a paperbook. You would lose the whole feel.
The idea is instead that you will be sitting with your remote control and switching pages manually. (Or your game-console gamepad, or your PC keyboard or mouse). Just like you did with a diskmag in the good old days.

Anyway, mostly downloads is perfectly acceptable. I'm not aiming at selling a lot of Blu-ray discs here. That's not why I made it. The project has always been intended to be completely free. I know that the disc version is for the niche group + those who just wish to support the project.

I would be happy to snailmail you a betatest version. Maybe you could then explain it better than I can.

Other betatesters are also most welcome to join in here and share your first impression of the project, now that you've had a chance to experience it.
My eBook about experiencing the Amstrad CPC (and others) as a kid, will be released December 2017!!!
Please help me out by letting me know about your interest by voting in this poll! Thanks!!!