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Title: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Ast on 21:03, 02 May 17
Hi everybody !


I tried to plug my Cpc 6128 (crtc 3-eratz) thaïs afternoon but as you could see there is a big problem.
No basic boot, no bip with del key, just coloured screen!
Who could help me to fix this problem ?
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: rpalmer on 23:11, 02 May 17
Ast,

Are you able to replace the Z80? It may have gone to zilog heaven or hell...lol

When even key presses do nothing, it suggests that maybe also the ROM/RAM is not responding and so you may need to check if they are okay.

rpalmer
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Ast on 11:05, 03 May 17
Quote from: rpalmer on 23:11, 02 May 17
Ast,

Are you able to replace the Z80? It may have gone to zilog heaven or hell...lol

When even key presses do nothing, it suggests that maybe also the ROM/RAM is not responding and so you may need to check if they are okay.

rpalmer
Thanks for you reply Ray !
First, I will try to change the z80 and i will tell you what' s happening !
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For the RAM Check, how CAN i do if my Cpc doesn't switch on ?
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Token on 11:13, 03 May 17
Hi Ast, bad luck indeed. Check the RAM chips, if they are getting hot then it will require new chips.
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Bryce on 11:19, 03 May 17
It's not the Z80. To get that square on the screen the Z80 needs to have successfully retrieved commands from the ROM and sent them to the CRTC, so the CRTC, ROM and Z80 are all ok. Most likely there's a problem with RAM. If your ROM is socketed or you have a Lower ROM Board of some sort, then @gerald (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=250) wrote a rather nice RAM checking ROM routine which you can use to find out which RAM has died.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: rpalmer on 12:19, 03 May 17
you are right bryce, I forgot about that.... lesson learned  :D

rpalmer
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Ast on 12:39, 03 May 17
Quote from: Token on 11:13, 03 May 17
Hi Ast, bad luck indeed. Check the RAM chips, if they are getting hot then it will require new chips.
Hi everybody,


RAM are cold ! So ???
Is it possible that eratz died ?
I tried to plug an xmem but all symptôms are the same!!
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Bryce on 14:10, 03 May 17
The x-mem can replace the lower ROM can't it? Try installing the RAM Test ROM from @gerald (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=250) and see what it reports. Broken RAMs don't always get hot, they can be completely cold and still broken.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: gerald on 17:05, 03 May 17
The RAM test is in this thread : http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/quick-and-dirty-ram-test-for-cpc
You have to program it as a low rom on an xmem then boot on it, so you need a other CPC to do this.
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: keropi on 18:12, 03 May 17
my plus had dead ram and gave a similar screen:


(http://i.imgur.com/xbUANsWl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/xbUANsW)


just do what Bryce says, check/replace ram and chances are the problem will go away
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Ast on 18:58, 03 May 17
Quote from: gerald on 17:05, 03 May 17
The RAM test is in this thread : http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/quick-and-dirty-ram-test-for-cpc (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/quick-and-dirty-ram-test-for-cpc)
You have to program it as a low rom on an xmem then boot on it, so you need a other CPC to do this.
I think the best thing to do would be to send it to you... because, i don't Know anything in electronic !!
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: gerald on 19:49, 03 May 17
Quote from: Ast on 18:58, 03 May 17
I think the best thing to do would be to send it to you... because, i don't Know anything in electronic !!
PM to follow  ;)
Title: Re: Help! Amstrad Cpc problem
Post by: Ast on 22:50, 03 May 17
Quote from: gerald on 19:49, 03 May 17
PM to follow  ;)
Thanks!!!!
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