6128 vs 6128 plus

[banana]

I'd like to know if the plus version is fully compatible with the 6128What are the differences?Thank you!

[Gryzor]

This may be of interest
http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Plus

[banana]

So... If I've lost the cartridge, I can't use the 6128 plus 

[Gryzor]

You mean for BASIC? You have to get a replacement.

[banana]

You mean for BASIC? You have to get a replacement.

Where from?Thanks.

[ComSoft6128]

I bought one of these 3/4 years ago and it works fine but only cost £30 when I ordered it:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233744766539?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=233744766539&targetid=1141640585251&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046929&poi=&campaignid=12126090210&mkgroupid=116526821493&rlsatarget=aud-629407027385:pla-1141640585251&abcId=9300481&merchantid=115232188&gclid=Cj0KCQiA34OBBhCcARIsAG32uvOS2sIrykHxxQVgmRWXNGbYG0M5nOGthvoWl0JRUkfvEFSPCIG55-MaAuvWEALw_wcB


http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/ParaDOS

[banana]

Thanks for the link, I appreciate it. But it doesn't seem to have BASIC in it.

[ComSoft6128]

Parados is a replacement ROM for Amsdos - you will still be able to use BASIC

[banana]

Thanks!

[Shaun M. Neary]

Some games suffer a keyboard scanning bug on Plus machines (Split Personalities, Ghosts N Goblins, Afterburner, Super Cycle to name a few).
A lot of those have been patched since though, so it's something to be aware of.

[ComSoft6128]

For anyone that notices - that IS a CampurSoft manual that comes with the cart - I have nothing to do with this and I found it more than a little ironic when I bought this a few years ago

[Shining]

If someone is in need for a cartridge you can contact me for one of my homebrew plus cartridges (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/classifieds-38/homebrew-plus-cartridge/msg164765/#msg164765).


But keep in mind, that I do them only for personal use and not for mass production.

[ComSoft6128]

Hi @Shining ,


How many individual Roms can you fit on these carts?

[Shining]

To keep it simple I designed my pcb to only fit 512kB EEPROMs. So I can burn every BIN-File up to 512kB.


Since this is the same max. size for the PLUS and the same max. size for a .cpr on the C4CPC one can build a cart for C4CPC and then convert this to .bin using cprtools from cpcmania.

[banana]

Parados is a replacement ROM for Amsdos - you will still be able to use BASIC

But Locomotive Basic is on the original cartridge. Is is the same case with the Parados?

[VincentGR]

Parados is a love/hate situation for me.
It is amazing but some games I like and Discology have different opinions.

[eto]

But Locomotive Basic is on the original cartridge. Is is the same case with the Parados?

yes.


But why should you lose a cartridge? Just keep the original one in a safe place and it's highly unlikely you will ever lose it. I use my Plus with the C4CPC cartridge which I rarely remove from the Plus as it simply gives access to everything I ever need. I keep the original cartridge in my disk box and in the rare cases I need it, I will always be sure that I find it.

If you ever get a Plus, then make sure to get the C4CPC too. With this you will have easy access to ROMs, e.g. you can select the standard ROM with Amsdos and Basic. Or to a patched version without Burning Rubber. Or to Parados... whatever you wish. So there is rarely the need to insert the standard cartridge again.

[banana]

yes.


But why should you lose a cartridge? Just keep the original one in a safe place and it's highly unlikely you will ever lose it. I use my Plus with the C4CPC cartridge which I rarely remove from the Plus as it simply gives access to everything I ever need. I keep the original cartridge in my disk box and in the rare cases I need it, I will always be sure that I find it.

If you ever get a Plus, then make sure to get the C4CPC too. With this you will have easy access to ROMs, e.g. you can select the standard ROM with Amsdos and Basic. Or to a patched version without Burning Rubber. Or to Parados... whatever you wish. So there is rarely the need to insert the standard cartridge again.

I already own a 6128+. I just can't remember after all this time where I put the darn cartridge...

[Gryzor]

It's easy to lose it unfortunately... has happened to me - cartridge removed to play some other cartridge, then the machine was stored away without checking which cartridge was in. Result: an empty game box and a loose BASIC cartridge in a drawer.

[eto]

I already own a 6128+. I just can't remember after all this time where I put the darn cartridge...

Ah, I understand. OK, then get a C4CPC and you have access to all ROMs you ever need and want.
The only disadvantage I encountered so far is, that CPM plus will not boot from disk with the C4CPC installed (but CPM 2.2 will).

[banana]

Ah, I understand. OK, then get a C4CPC and you have access to all ROMs you ever need and want.
The only disadvantage I encountered so far is, that CPM plus will not boot from disk with the C4CPC installed (but CPM 2.2 will)

What is the C4CPC? DO you have a link for it? Does it include the OS/Basic?
Thanks.

[eto]

What is the C4CPC? DO you have a link for it? Does it include the OS/Basic?
Thanks.

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC

It comes with everything!

[Gryzor]

What is the C4CPC? DO you have a link for it? Does it include the OS/Basic?
Thanks.

There's a great place with lots of info on that stuff you know
http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC


[EDIT] Darn, eto beat me to it

[banana]

Thanks, I see it has room for 16 cartridges, but where can I find the original OS/Basic to place it in there?

[Gryzor]

Once more, until you get the hint

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Plus_System_Cartridge