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What CRTC Type does your CPC have?

CPC 464 Type 0
4 (12.5%)
CPC 464 Type 1
0 (0%)
CPC 464 Type 2
1 (3.1%)
CPC 464 Type 3
0 (0%)
CPC 464 Type 4
0 (0%)
CPC 664 Type 0
0 (0%)
CPC 664 Type 1
0 (0%)
CPC 664 Type 2
1 (3.1%)
CPC 664 Type 3
0 (0%)
CPC 664 Type 4
0 (0%)
CPC 6128 Type 0
12 (37.5%)
CPC 6128 Type 1
10 (31.3%)
CPC 6128 Type 2
0 (0%)
CPC 6128 Type 3
3 (9.4%)
CPC 6128 Type 4
1 (3.1%)

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Author Topic: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?  (Read 6561 times)

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Offline Longshot

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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #25 on: 17:45, 09 March 18 »
Some guys here have all crtc type  ;D
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #26 on: 17:46, 09 March 18 »
Yes, the poll allows more than one vote per user  ;D

For now, added only per CPC option.
I am not sure which ones are impossible configurations, anyway.
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #27 on: 19:30, 09 March 18 »
Does someone have a 6128 CRTC 2 with that 664 style floppy drive and big slot?
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #28 on: 19:55, 09 March 18 »
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Yes, the poll allows more than one vote per user
I can only select one vote per user in the poll.
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #29 on: 20:07, 09 March 18 »
Same here. Also one could have several same CPC. It deserve a better poll...
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #30 on: 20:38, 09 March 18 »
Same here. Also one could have several same CPC. It deserve a better poll...


All right, I made a mistake by not setting the max number of votes higher than 1, and wasnt able to change it afterwards. That could be improved in the Board system.
Let's close this thread and see the new poll thread! You have max 99 votes per user - I know, it's hardly sufficient, but it is a start  :laugh:
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #31 on: 20:38, 09 March 18 »
How can I close a thread?
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #32 on: 21:20, 09 March 18 »
I tested the CRTC-CHK2 and it gives me a CRTC 0 on my CPC 464 PLUS ?  ???
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #33 on: 01:57, 10 March 18 »
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I tested the CRTC-CHK2 and it gives me a CRTC 0 on my CPC 464 PLUS ?

with run "CRTCHK" ? (and not with the basic program of elmsoft i'd let on the DSK)
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #34 on: 05:32, 10 March 18 »
My CPC6128 comes up as type 0 on both CRTC checks on longshot's dsk.
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #35 on: 09:53, 10 March 18 »



In the very first page of this topic, when people asked a program to identify crtc, i posted a program AND a simple method

I know it's a french article but really (in fact you can avoid to read the french and understand anyway), you should FORGET thoses programs if you just want to identify your CRTC, Programs are meant to be used for CRTC adaptations


Take a look at http://cpc.sylvestre.org/technique/technique_identifier_crtc.html


Really  :P


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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #36 on: 10:49, 10 March 18 »
with run "CRTCHK" ? (and not with the basic program of elmsoft i'd let on the DSK)


Ok, i was wrong.


According to the test i have:


- CPC 464 = 0
- CPC 464+ = 3
- CPC 6128+ = 3


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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #37 on: 10:50, 10 March 18 »
In the very first page of this topic, when people asked a program to identify crtc, i posted a program AND a simple method


Yes, good test  ;)
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #38 on: 12:39, 10 March 18 »
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I have a 464 with a type 4.
Interesting. I thought the 464 was no longer produced when Amstrad started to put the "low cost" asic in the 6128
It must be a pretty rare machine
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #39 on: 13:21, 10 March 18 »
Look for “Z80329, MC0099A” on the Mainboard Versions page.


That’s the cost-down 464 board with asic.
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #40 on: 15:49, 10 March 18 »
I have a CRTC1 6128, a CRTC4 6128, a CRTC3 6128+, a (CRTC3?  ;D ) GX4000
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #41 on: 22:42, 10 March 18 »
I have a 464 with a type 4.
Me too.

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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #42 on: 18:37, 11 March 18 »
How can I close a thread?


Only mods can do that; is there a reason to?
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #43 on: 21:10, 12 January 19 »
I have a CPC6128 CRTC0 and a CPC464 CRTC2 but I cannot fill the poll because I cannot set for both CPC  :picard2: .
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #44 on: 23:05, 13 January 19 »
According to this site posted, I have a CPC6128 CRTC 0 and a CPC6128 CRTC 1


http://web.archive.org/web/20170501112330/http://www.grimware.org/doku.php/documentations/devices/crtc
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #45 on: 05:33, 15 January 19 »
One game I had which is a fantastic game if you hadn't played it.  That is 3d starstrike.  It had a quirk: on some CPCs, the cursor (like a crosshair) was perfect.  on some other CPCs, it left a flickery trail behind although it didn't affect gameplay, it was far from perfect.  Was this due to a CRTC difference?  Had anyone else noticed this issue?  My CPCs at the time all plaid it flickery, but the shop where I bought it from was perfect.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79eLVS3syc


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ91o9qUFFc (new link as old video was no longer there)
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #46 on: 21:09, 15 January 19 »
From what i remember, the cursor was flickering.
So i'm surprised to discover it was a bug  :o .This game uses page flipping between 8000/C000.
It looks like there is some confusion between the two video pages when displaying the cursor.It smells like a bad init of the interrupt counter. Needs to be investigated.
 
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #47 on: 09:27, 30 November 21 »

nothing is wrong with CRTC-2, except coders maybe  ;D
Longshot release a technical documentation for CRTC-2 which explain how to do things supposed to be impossible http://www.logonsystem.fr/down/ACCC2-FR.pdf

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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #48 on: 17:57, 01 December 21 »
I'm coming late to this poll, but it's fundamentally flawed...

It should be a multiple-answer question, or at the very least there should be an option for "All of them. Yes, I really do have more than one of each model."  :o

Actually, not true. I never managed to get myself a 664, but I do have an example of every time of CRTC chip in 464 and 6128 and plus. And I think 664 only used the same CRTC as the original 464 model anyway.

Anyway, despite what all the old-school French coders will tell you, that one is technically the best one as it's the only one that supports interlaced mode correctly...
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Re: What's "wrong" with CRTC 2?
« Reply #49 on: 15:56, 03 December 21 »
Actually, not true. I never managed to get myself a 664, but I do have an example of every time of CRTC chip in 464 and 6128 and plus. And I think 664 only used the same CRTC as the original 464 model anyway.


Pretty sure my 664 was a type 0 and my (early) 464 was a type 2.
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