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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #25 on: 12:04, 28 March 16 »

Unfortunately I don't have any proof to connect "The Curiosity Show" with the Amstrad I recall seeing, so I cannot say what Amstrad it was apart from it having a Colour Monitor, though I guess to setup a game for the programme, a Disc based system could be loaded and ready to go during a commercial break.
The segment it was on was about the Flight Path 737 game. I guess they were impressed with how Simulation was becoming a more realistic in games and it just happened to be demonstrated on an Amstrad.  :)


I've never been able to find a video clip of it though. :(
I honestly don't recall that episode. Here's hoping it shows up on YouTube at some point.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #26 on: 12:54, 28 March 16 »
There are definitely different molds and cases. The first one was flat, and the joystick port and volume control were on the back. Later on the back was higher than the front and some ports moved to the side (so they could make the motherboard smaller - it did not need to be the full length of the case anymore).


But I don't know if these cases have the same length or not.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #28 on: 18:52, 28 March 16 »

And the volume and power controls on the side.

As far as I know you could make this part of the moulds exchangeable, to avoid massive costs for localisation of the cases.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #29 on: 22:20, 28 March 16 »
The molded text on the case would have been an insert, no need for extra tooling for different markets.

@Token: With enough CPCs you could make the nearest one look twice the length of the furthest.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #30 on: 09:20, 29 March 16 »
So my CPC desk as a kid was measured on my friends fat key CPC and when I got my Xmas 90 model it was smaller than the width we thought, which was good as the joystick (which didn't fit) and volume were on the side.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #31 on: 11:18, 29 March 16 »
I would like to think I do know about perspectives and all that, thank you :D


However, this should take care of the perspective issue, wouldn't it?


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I'm not saying it's so, just that it's weird.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #32 on: 11:20, 29 March 16 »
The bit that "tells me" that it can only be a perspective trick is the fact that the bottom one is the newer logo and there is no way, that they made the case BIGGER over time!

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #33 on: 11:21, 29 March 16 »
That's certainly logical. I wish he had put them one on top of the other... all my machines are boxed away :(

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #34 on: 11:52, 29 March 16 »
I would like to think I do know about perspectives and all that, thank you :D


However, this should take care of the perspective issue, wouldn't it?


There maybe another explanation, but because I did 6 years of Graphics at School, perspective is the foremost explanation I consider, but a single image taken from above isn't giving enough information because there is no side or front view.

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I'm not saying it's so, just that it's weird.


The alternative is photo manipulation by simply resizing, but why would anyone do that?!?  ???  And as Bryce said a newer 464 just wouldn't be in a larger box.
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #35 on: 21:09, 29 March 16 »
The bit that "tells me" that it can only be a perspective trick is the fact that the bottom one is the newer logo and there is no way, that they made the case BIGGER over time!

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Having 464 from tall key to cost down, I can tell you that of them have the same length ;)

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #36 on: 22:02, 29 March 16 »
Having 464 from tall key to cost down, I can tell you that of them have the same length ;)

I was just waiting for someone who owns them all to bring some sense and reality into this thread :)

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #37 on: 22:07, 29 March 16 »
The bit that "tells me" that it can only be a perspective trick is the fact that the bottom one is the newer logo and there is no way, that they made the case BIGGER over time!

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They didn't make it shorter either! In the cost-down there is a lot of empty space..

Almost enough to make an echo.... echo... echo...  :picard:
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #38 on: 22:46, 29 March 16 »
Having a new tool made would have cost more than the plastic they'd save.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #39 on: 10:53, 30 March 16 »
Indeed, I have a v1 tall keys one and definitely a cost down version (and a couple in-between) and I didn't remember them being different in size - just the cavernous empty space inside. But then again I never compared them...

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #40 on: 11:36, 30 March 16 »
just the cavernous empty space inside.

You mean "potential mod / expansion space" :)

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #41 on: 11:51, 30 March 16 »
Oh yes, that, we're talking about the same thing.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #42 on: 13:00, 30 March 16 »

Having 464 from tall key to cost down, I can tell you that  ____  of them have the same length


I was just waiting for someone who owns them all to bring some sense and reality into this thread


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But was the word meant to be "All" or "None"?
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #43 on: 14:54, 30 March 16 »
If they were different lengths I'm sure we would have got a comprehensive list of models and dimensions.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #44 on: 18:47, 30 March 16 »
If they were different lengths I'm sure we would have got a comprehensive list of models and dimensions.

You make us sound like a bunch of geeks.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #45 on: 19:41, 30 March 16 »
You make us sound like a bunch of geeks.
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #46 on: 20:26, 30 March 16 »


But was the word meant to be "All" or "None"?
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #47 on: 23:11, 31 March 16 »
I would like to think I do know about perspectives and all that, thank you :D


However, this should take care of the perspective issue, wouldn't it?


[attachimg=1]


I'm not saying it's so, just that it's weird.


That would take care of it if you assume that all CPCs are perfectly parallel to the ground. (ie a Parallelepiped on a planar ground).


But if, as i believe, the units are tilted toward the camera (or on some kind of a small stair), then you can explain the fact that the perspective line are not the same for each CPC.

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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #48 on: 13:37, 08 April 16 »
Seen this today and thought of this thread

The train track optical illusion that's bewildering the internet - BBC News
The train track optical illusion that's bewildering the internet - BBC News
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Re: CPC464 sizes
« Reply #49 on: 13:55, 08 April 16 »
Seen this today and thought of this thread

The train track optical illusion that's bewildering the internet - BBC News
The train track optical illusion that's bewildering the internet - BBC News

This just confirms that the average internet user is actually dumber than I previously thought. Do they not teach these things in schools anymore??

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