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I am pretty sure about this.
It would be awesome to be able to dump a game cart to sd card on an m4!

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is AMSDAP available yet?

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Sure. Contact Prodatron.  :)
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Sure. Contact Prodatron.  :)


I had tried but no replies.

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Hey,
Sorry for the late response.


There are still 15 AMSDAP42 in stock.
Prodatron was on vacation, so I hope they will be delivered.

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Happy 2020! mates.
Now music scene on CPC has SID board thanks to  LambdaMikel's Speak&SID...
but...
Do you think that I could play SID files with my AMSDAP+Playsoniq(MSX SID board) in my CPC???


I would try Simon Owen/DaDMaN or LambdaMikel SID PLAYERS but I don't want to fry nothing...


Any CPC/MSX users like me with all that crazy stuff ???:o

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No idea.
note the msx io rangs is for the CPC & FF00 .... & FFFF
« Last Edit: 15:56, 10 January 20 by TMTLOGIC »

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Playsoniq SID (and CMB-MOS SID) use &H00 to &H1C address

compatible???
What is that translated to CPC/AMSDAP??

[I hope only software mod is needed not hardware side]
« Last Edit: 16:05, 10 January 20 by RockRiver »

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Yes i think so


For cpc  is it  &ff00....&f1c


! No cartridge memory support
Only IO base
« Last Edit: 16:23, 10 January 20 by TMTLOGIC »

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Maybe the SID used internal memory.


Amsdap42 is only IO base to the MSX cartridge

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Playsoniq SID (and CMB-MOS SID) use &H00 to &H1C address

compatible???
What is that translated to CPC/AMSDAP??

[I hope only software mod is needed not hardware side]
Hi RockRiver! :)
it should be possible to access the SID of the PlaySoniq on the CPC with AMSDAP, as the SID is I/O based (MSX ports #2A and #2B), not memory mapped.
Ports will be

- #FF2A (select SID register)
- #FF2B (write data to SID register)
See here:
https://www.msx.org/wiki/SuperSoniqs_PlaySoniq#Addressing
I would love to try it, but there is one big problem:
The Playsoniq doesn't have an own Audio-Out-connector. The MSX can route external audio-signals from expansion hardware to its own audio-output, but the CPC can't.
Maybe it is possible to open the PlaySoniq catridge and solder something for an extra audio-cable. Or you solder something at the AMSDAP circuit board to get the audio signal?

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Thanks for the answers.
Great!!!
"no problemio" Playsoniq has AudioOut pinout
 at pseudo-vga D-15 connector...
https://www.msx.org/wiki/SuperSoniqs_PlaySoniq#VGA-type_connector


Go to solder an audio cable then...  8)
Thanks


My CPCsx is come back to life again  ;)
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Pin 49 of the msx connector is sound aux

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Thanks for the answers.
Great!!!
"no problemio" Playsoniq has AudioOut pinout
 at pseudo-vga D-15 connector...
https://www.msx.org/wiki/SuperSoniqs_PlaySoniq#VGA-type_connector


Go to solder an audio cable then...  8)
Thanks


My CPCsx is come back to life again  ;)
Cool :D Does it mean, I have to use Pin14 (Audio out) and Pin5 or Pin10 (ground) for getting the audio signal?

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Quote from: Prodatron
Cool :D Does it mean, I have to use Pin14 (Audio out) and Pin5 or Pin10 (ground) for getting the audio signal?
Yezz!!

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Ha Ha  :picard:  Soft Porn or Sacrilege!!!
Sorry!!
Do you remember my veeery old web about changing keys on amstrad computer models???
http://galeon.hispavista.com/amstrad/restyling.html


It's a CPC plus with black keys from a non plus 464 with CPC old logo. Blue is the color for the system software in some spanish editors. (Red: Spectrum; Black: MSX; Yellow: C64)


The anexed box is an old external CD-ROM case and inside Symbifase II and AMSDAP boards with 3 cpc and 2 msx extension board connectors.... it allows me to connect msx VDP V9990; MP3 board and maybe playsoniq SID...


More photos soon.


The goal will be attach more Sound Chips (MSX boards) with AMSDAP help.


Yeahhh some of the scene doesn't like CPC as Jukebox.
But I like a lot and I am jealous about VGM Play on MSX cousin 8bit system.


https://bitbucket.org/grauw/vgmplay-msx/src/default/

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The anexed box is an old external CD-ROM case and inside Symbifase II and AMSDAP boards with 3 cpc and 2 msx extension board connectors.... it allows me to connect msx VDP V9990; MP3 board and maybe playsoniq SID...
How did you get the needed space in height to connect Cards on the AMSDAP?
The CD-ROM-Case-Height can't be enough?

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Yeah I need to make some slot holes like in msxVR
(look at that desing of Alberto's team)  ;D

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It is possible that an expansion card is placed incorrectly in the 50 pin socket.
This is because the Female 50pin socket is smaller than the Male connector of the expansion card.


Before inserting the expansion card into the AMSDAP or MX4 Motherboard, check whether it is placed in the middle


GFLOREZ has a smart solution for this.
do not use a Female 50pin socket but a 54 Pin.
This socket fits exactly in the Male connector.
However, you do not use the outer pins