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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #200 on: 22:31, 08 November 19 »
Job done, the Dandanator was programmed using an eeprom programmer, easy work finally. The CPLD was upgraded using an Arduino uno.


Great application for creating romsets, but some dsk simply didn't work, some were looking for the disk drive A.... Some kind of incompatibility?


Thanks anyway for this great device!


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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #201 on: 18:45, 16 November 19 »
All stored games are snapshots. For loading a DSK or a CDT, we created a CPC emulator from scratch (464,6128) that actually loads the game and decides by itself when to make the memory snapshot.
This is what we call "landing zone". Deciding on this landing zone is not an easy task. We have up to 20 parameters that we try to tune for achieving the overall best results, but some time the software fails to select the right capture moment.
This method, as it is, also prevent multi-load games from working, although we are working in a native multi-load support similar to the one we developed for spectrum.


It could also be the case that our emulator fails. We found some games that wouldn't load in our emulator, but Arnold, Retrovirtualmachine, WinApe or other well-established emulators didn't load it neither.


if you have a specific game that does not work, please proceed as follows:
1) check whether the game loads ok in a couple of well-known emulators
2) check that the game is not multi-load
3) check that the game is not a cracked version with cheat menu. Although we have some workaround methods for these cases, they don't always work.
4) Try and look for another version of the game (different tape or disk capture)
5) Contact me and send me the game, we may find a better tweak for the landing zone.


Just a note here: I noticed you have oh-mummy in your romset, but this game won't work in a 6128. Make sure you force 464 mode for this game. This may happen to other games as well, so check them out.
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #202 on: 21:51, 09 December 19 »
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #203 on: 16:57, 10 December 19 »
Would be nice to have an English homepage for all DES related stuff.
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #204 on: 19:14, 10 December 19 »
Agree... :)
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #205 on: 20:44, 10 December 19 »
Would be nice to have an English homepage for all DES related stuff.
an English translation is planned  :)
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #206 on: 18:32, 21 July 20 »
Does anyone have the STL files for the mounting pieces to use a PP6N case?


I was thinking of cobbling something together with PC cabling parts and/or Sugru but proper mounts would be
 A: neater and
 B: More stable.


Thanks


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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #207 on: 23:41, 21 July 20 »
Does anyone have the STL files for the mounting pieces to use a PP6N case?


You can now download the STL for the Supertronic PP6N box from the project website downloads section. Thanks to overCLK for sharing his work.
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #208 on: 00:19, 22 July 20 »

You can now download the STL for the Supertronic PP6N box from the project website downloads section. Thanks to overCLK for sharing his work.


That is awesome, thanks so very much. 😀
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #209 on: 18:16, 18 January 21 »
Does anyone know anything about the Dandanator Elite/Elite+?

It looks like a DES with a GBA style cartridge slot, but from what I can gather the slot is different to the DES, there the cartridges aren't compatible? (although the Elite+ has a DES cartridge slot as well)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dandanator-Elite-Amstrad-CPC-Compatible-con-DES-/224284622444

http://neotienda.es/index.php?id_product=408&controller=product&id_lang=1
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #210 on: 22:22, 18 January 21 »
Does anyone know anything about the Dandanator Elite/Elite+?

It looks like a DES with a GBA style cartridge slot, but from what I can gather the slot is different to the DES, there the cartridges aren't compatible? (although the Elite+ has a DES cartridge slot as well)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dandanator-Elite-Amstrad-CPC-Compatible-con-DES-/224284622444

http://neotienda.es/index.php?id_product=408&controller=product&id_lang=1
yes, the DES project files were released to the public, a long time ago and another group made this kind of clone of DES.
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #211 on: 10:08, 19 January 21 »
Does anyone know anything about the Dandanator Elite/Elite+?

Yes, they're ugly :D

That's weird, all I can find are selling listings...
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #212 on: 11:02, 19 January 21 »
It seems like the cartridges are incompatible with the DES (unless you get the + model which has two cartridge slots).

I wonder why? I was really excited at a new cartridge format for the CPC, it seems odd that they would instantaneously split the market with an incompatible cartridge format (even though they're the same physical size!)
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #213 on: 11:07, 19 January 21 »
Indeed, this. It looks like an experiment in futility?
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #214 on: 14:44, 31 January 21 »
It seems like the cartridges are incompatible with the DES (unless you get the + model which has two cartridge slots).

I wonder why? I was really excited at a new cartridge format for the CPC, it seems odd that they would instantaneously split the market with an incompatible cartridge format (even though they're the same physical size!)


Dandanator is a public domain project. I have no control whatsoever of what people do with it.
Sometimes, things like this happen.


The only boards released by me are 1.3b and 1.4 (which is a 1.3b with a different switch alignment)
DES is released by the AUA (Spanish Amstrad User Association) and Elite, dual, etc... are released by a retroshop called Neotienda.
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #215 on: 10:20, 01 February 21 »
I don't think anyone meant you did the newer ones, though the clarification is useful.

The question remains, of course: WHY!
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Re: CPC Dandanator Mini 1.3 - WIP
« Reply #216 on: 13:17, 02 February 21 »
I don't think anyone meant you did the newer ones, though the clarification is useful.

The question remains, of course: WHY!


Yep, it was just a clarification, not a disclaimer ;)




Well, I believe different people like to customize things to their own liking, and that's something I think is good.
Splitting the board into two (main+cartridges) may have sense. In fact, it's something we did with the spectrum version back in 2016 or 2017, but it never got much attention. I estimate around some 100-200 boards, compared to the 3000+ single-board zx-dandanators
However, making the Elite with a different memory pinout of the DES was, IMHO, a mistake. One motivated probably by a lack of communication between the two groups, not intentionally. That's why, I believe, the new Elite+ now supports DES memories as well.
In any case, I think both projects are nice and their finishing detail is awesome.


I've been asked several times to customize dandanators (ZX and CPC) with different features and functionalities, but it's something I'm not usually inclined to address, since it creates, unavoidably, fragmentation and confussion in many users.
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