X-mem question

[caver99]

What app can be used to put roms on to the x-mem with only a floppy drive.

I need to install acmedos to use the x-mass
And some other roms

[TotO]

https://www.centpourcent.net 

[Audronic]

@TotO 

The Zmem link is not working

Thanks

Keep Safe

Ray

[TotO]

Yes. I don't know will the file no more exist since a while... I don't have it.

[Audronic]

@TotO 

Its OK I found a couple of Disk Images.

Keep Safe

Ray

[caver99]

will give that a try tonight, thanks

[GUNHED]

What app can be used to put roms on to the x-mem with only a floppy drive.

I need to install acmedos to use the x-mass
And some other roms

There are solutions for BASIC (see previous posts). That's fine for the average usage surely. 
But to have full control over the X-MEM I do suggest you the ROManager 2.4.3 for FutureOS. This would mean to install FutureOS first and then the ROManager XROM too. Probably it's only worth the efforts when you work with X-MEM ROMs a bit more often. But it's functionality is quite comprehensive. (Download, see my signature. Also there's a wiki page). 

[caver99]

i have to get future os on first, then i will try it, thanks

[caver99]

I managed to get the future's rims installed from the installer and I have to say its not a nice experience using it.

It looks nothing like pictures with a gui looking effect just 4 icons and very basic and not very intuitive to use.

Plus didn't recognise the x-mass lol

[GUNHED]

I managed to get the future's rims installed from the installer and I have to say its not a nice experience using it.

It looks nothing like pictures with a gui looking effect just 4 icons and very basic and not very intuitive to use.

Plus didn't recognise the x-mass lol

Well, I'm open for any kind of suggestions of course. Together everything can be made better.

You're using Sparten mode, that means only to see the currently usable icons. You can change that in the Installer Setup.

Examples:
- You click at a device icon (A for drive A for example) and more icons will appear.
- When using more devices you can browse directories up and down by using the mouse wheel or Shift and Control keys.
- To copy tiles to a destination, the destination device must be switched active (click at the icon once)
- After swapping disc click at the DIR icon again, the directories are buffered in RAM to speed up the system and save head-movements

The X-Mass is currently not supported, but for the M4 I'm working on an expansion ROM.

What would you like to change?

But hey, sorry for switching topic here, it can all be discussed in the FutureOS corner. 

[caver99]

I managed to get the future's rims installed from the installer and I have to say its not a nice experience using it.

It looks nothing like pictures with a gui looking effect just 4 icons and very basic and not very intuitive to use.

Plus didn't recognise the x-mass lol

Well, I'm open for any kind of suggestions of course. Together everything can be made better.

You're using Sparten mode, that means only to see the currently usable icons. You can change that in the Installer Setup.

Examples:
- You click at a device icon (A for drive A for example) and more icons will appear.
- When using more devices you can browse directories up and down by using the mouse wheel or Shift and Control keys.
- To copy tiles to a destination, the destination device must be switched active (click at the icon once)
- After swapping disc click at the DIR icon again, the directories are buffered in RAM to speed up the system and save head-movements

The X-Mass is currently not supported, but for the M4 I'm working on an expansion ROM.

What would you like to change?

But hey, sorry for switching topic here, it can all be discussed in the FutureOS corner. 

ah right, i didn't see there was an option to change desktops on install.
will have another go over weekend as i do like the pics of the desktop.
ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.
is the usifac ii supported by any chance?.

[GUNHED]

I managed to get the future's rims installed from the installer and I have to say its not a nice experience using it.

It looks nothing like pictures with a gui looking effect just 4 icons and very basic and not very intuitive to use.

Plus didn't recognise the x-mass lol

Well, I'm open for any kind of suggestions of course. Together everything can be made better.

You're using Sparten mode, that means only to see the currently usable icons. You can change that in the Installer Setup.

Examples:
- You click at a device icon (A for drive A for example) and more icons will appear.
- When using more devices you can browse directories up and down by using the mouse wheel or Shift and Control keys.
- To copy tiles to a destination, the destination device must be switched active (click at the icon once)
- After swapping disc click at the DIR icon again, the directories are buffered in RAM to speed up the system and save head-movements

The X-Mass is currently not supported, but for the M4 I'm working on an expansion ROM.

What would you like to change?

But hey, sorry for switching topic here, it can all be discussed in the FutureOS corner. 

ah right, i didn't see there was an option to change desktops on install.
will have another go over weekend as i do like the pics of the desktop.
ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.
is the usifac ii supported by any chance?.

Thank's a lot for your feedback. 
Currently only the Dobbertin HD20 hard disc is supported as mass storage media. Hopefully this great device can be emulated soon. In addition the M4 SD card get support currently (what works: start Apps, show files, show headers). I hope to have this finished soon. The USIfAC II is on my 'To Do' list, I like the version 1 a whole lot, and will get the II when I have time to intensively support it... 

[TotO]

ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.

The X-MASS is the standard IDE mass-storage interface. It is natively compatible with BonnyDOS used in Germany, UK and Spain with IDE drives into the 80's. It is nativelly supported by SymbOS, because the SYMBiFACE II expansion use the standard too. If FutureOS don't (or no more) support it, it is really a shame.

[GUNHED]

ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.

The X-MASS is the standard IDE mass-storage interface. It is natively compatible with BonnyDOS used in Germany, UK and Spain with IDE drives into the 80's. It is nativelly supported by SymbOS, because the SYMBiFACE II expansion use the standard too. If FutureOS don't (or no more) support it, it is really a shame.

Really? Look how much X-MASS have been sold. Then look how much M4 cards have been sold. I guess the M4 expansion got sold 10 times more. So I guess the M4 is standard.

And btw. how much users does BonnyDOS have? 2 or 3?

IDE drives in the 80ies for the CPC? Please provide a link to that.

The standard mass media of the 80ies was the Dobbertin HD20 hard disc providing four partitions of 5 MB each. And it's supported by native OS, CP/M 2.2 and Plus as by FutureOS.

Today everybody uses the M4 card, because it got the best implementation into the native OS, got sold more than 1000 times.

And if I would support X-MASS before M4 this would be a shame. First I support what most users use, then anything else.

But if you mind, just make an XROM for FutureOS to support X-MASS. 

[caver99]

ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.

The X-MASS is the standard IDE mass-storage interface. It is natively compatible with BonnyDOS used in Germany, UK and Spain with IDE drives into the 80's. It is nativelly supported by SymbOS, because the SYMBiFACE II expansion use the standard too. If FutureOS don't (or no more) support it, it is really a shame.

Really? Look how much X-MASS have been sold. Then look how much M4 cards have been sold. I guess the M4 expansion got sold 10 times more. So I guess the M4 is standard.

And btw. how much users does BonnyDOS have? 2 or 3?

IDE drives in the 80ies for the CPC? Please provide a link to that.

The standard mass media of the 80ies was the Dobbertin HD20 hard disc providing four partitions of 5 MB each. And it's supported by native OS, CP/M 2.2 and Plus as by FutureOS.

Today everybody uses the M4 card, because it got the best implementation into the native OS, got sold more than 1000 times.

And if I would support X-MASS before M4 this would be a shame. First I support what most users use, then anything else.

But if you mind, just make an XROM for FutureOS to support X-MASS. 

sorry but i didnt say support x-mass before m4 card, i have not seen the m4 card for sale anywhere when looking for a mass storage for the cpc.
is it just called m4 card?

[GUNHED]

Search this forum for 'M4 Wifi'. Or use google 'cpcwiki M4 Wifi'. Should work. 

[TotO]

@GUNHED Forget... In fact, I don't care what an OS used by nobody except you can support.

[TotO]

@caver99 If you already have the X-MEM and X-MASS, why are you just not using the installer?

[Prodatron]

If FutureOS don't (or no more) support it, it is really a shame.

You have probably been confused by all the advertisements and announcements which appeared during the last 18 years?

[GUNHED]

Where have you been?
Missed you already!
It's no real Friday without your friendly and helpful comments anyway. 

And to be as kind as you I also give you something to read, guess what?
It's the IDE ROM (FutureOS) documentation I wrote back the day - actually just a bit of it.

You want more? Give me more shit - and I'll give you more gold! 

[caver99]

@caver99 If you already have the X-MEM and X-MASS, why are you just not using the installer?

to install roms, and when i mess up to re-set up using the init and install options.
i don't normally use futureos, im a command line person for loading and saving.
on the subject i have found the program yancc which supports the x-mas with acme rom.

what do you find is the best rom set to use for the x-mass?

[TotO]

@caver99 If the DOS provided by the "x-mass installer for x-mem" if not enough for your usage, I suggest to install ImpDOS or UniDOS instead. FutureOS is not required at all, it will just waste your time and ROM slots, since there is no x-mass support.

Software section with links at the bottom of this page: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/X-Mass

[caver99]

@caver99 If the DOS provided by the "x-mass installer for x-mem" if not enough for your usage, I suggest to install ImpDOS or UniDOS instead. FutureOS is not required at all, it will just waste your time and ROM slots, since there is no x-mass support.

Software section with links at the bottom of this page: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/X-Mass

ah right i didnt see what dos was provided sorry, would this be the xmass08#. one, sorry if i have missed something here, i can try again tonight.

[xesrjb]

ok i understand now that the X-Mass isn't supported that will explain what i couldn't see the drive.

The X-MASS is the standard IDE mass-storage interface. It is natively compatible with BonnyDOS used in Germany, UK and Spain with IDE drives into the 80's. It is nativelly supported by SymbOS, because the SYMBiFACE II expansion use the standard too. If FutureOS don't (or no more) support it, it is really a shame.

Really? Look how much X-MASS have been sold. Then look how much M4 cards have been sold. I guess the M4 expansion got sold 10 times more. So I guess the M4 is standard.

And btw. how much users does BonnyDOS have? 2 or 3?

IDE drives in the 80ies for the CPC? Please provide a link to that.

The standard mass media of the 80ies was the Dobbertin HD20 hard disc providing four partitions of 5 MB each. And it's supported by native OS, CP/M 2.2 and Plus as by FutureOS.

Today everybody uses the M4 card, because it got the best implementation into the native OS, got sold more than 1000 times.

And if I would support X-MASS before M4 this would be a shame. First I support what most users use, then anything else.

But if you mind, just make an XROM for FutureOS to support X-MASS. 

only 1-2 BonnyDos User. I used it for some years but now the M4 Card is my favorit...😉

xesrjb

[Ast]

Sorry but, the best Mass Storage Support is the xMass. (For me)