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radu14m

I predict also an 8xMother :o

CraigsBar

Quote from: radu14m on 19:29, 02 December 14
I predict also an 8xMother :o
Na, a bit of 50way ribbon cable and 2 female connectors and you can just stick 2 mother 4 x boards together, not worth designing a new pcb for 8 surely?
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TotO

As you can see, only 4 boards exist. You don't need more slots.  ;D
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TFM

And... in case... there is a 5th slot at the end of the board.  ;)
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radu14m

The 4 boards are now ...i think that more will come  :o
the x4mother is already a standard for the  cpc.

thanks TotO !!!

TotO

Quote from: TFM on 21:22, 02 December 14
And... in case... there is a 5th slot at the end of the board.  ;)
Don't forget the MiniBooster expansion slot.
It will allow to plug a mini-PCB over it to handle SPI things...
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TFM

#83
Would they work with the X-MASS? And would they work with the SF?


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TotO

No... Canon, Nikon and Pentax flash don't work with it.  :laugh:
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TFM

Well, if you can give some hints which work, that would be great. Because I think I should add one of these nice devices to my SF2 too.  :)
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Munchausen

A CF adapter should work, at least with some CF cards (I checked with TotO).

So a WiFi card for the minibooster...

Perhaps an RTC + mouse card? Maybe the minibooster could also handle RTC, I bet there are SPI RTC chips  (or maybe get network time)?

A multiface replica in MX4 format? I guess the multiface is almost already in MX4 format...

TFM

Well, the SF2 will not fit on an MX4 card, it needs too much different ICs. Also the RTC has a defined size. But X-MASS and X-MEM give you most of the SF2 functionality.

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CraigsBar

Quote from: TFM on 00:37, 08 December 14
Well, the SF2 will not fit on an MX4 card, it needs too much different ICs. Also the RTC has a defined size. But X-MASS and X-MEM give you most of the SF2 functionality.
Well indeed. Except the rtc and decent hi res mouse. I too would love an m4x card with these 2 features.
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TotO

#89
Quote from: Munchausen on 04:00, 06 December 14Perhaps an RTC + mouse card? Maybe the minibooster could also handle RTC, I bet there are SPI RTC chips  (or maybe get network time)?
Exactly. A little board to plug over the MiniBooster will offer at less RTC + mouse features.
It's why all the ICs are soldered and not socketed ; To stay thin and allow to plug over its EXT/CLK connectors a flipped board that will use 4MHz SPI.
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CraigsBar

Quote from: TotO on 09:24, 08 December 14
Exactly. A little board to plug over the MiniBooster will offer at less RTC + mouse features.
It's why all the ICs are soldered and not socketed ; To stay thin and allow to plug over its EXT/CLK connectors a flipped board that will use 4MHz SPI.
After the x-mass, this will be my next board purchase. The symbiface will then have some serious competition.

When are you starting the prototyping? [emoji6]
Quote from: TotO on 09:24, 08 December 14
Exactly. A little board to plug over the MiniBooster will offer at less RTC + mouse features.
It's why all the ICs are soldered and not socketed ; To stay thin and allow to plug over its EXT/CLK connectors a flipped board that will use 4MHz SPI.
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pelrun

Quote from: radu14m on 21:24, 02 December 14
The 4 boards are now ...i think that more will come  :o


Yeah, I'm working on a new board myself, and TotO comes along and fills up the fourth slot! Bah!

TotO

#92
Quote from: CraigsBar on 10:13, 08 December 14When are you starting the prototyping?
Prototyping started 1 year ago with the MiniBooster. But the priority had changed with the X-MEM.

Quote from: pelrun on 10:27, 08 December 14Yeah, I'm working on a new board myself, and TotO comes along and fills up the fourth slot! Bah!
Sorry guy!  ;D
I have done the best to include ROM and RAM into the same X-MEM board to already save one slot! :D
(the same with the MiniBooster EXT port)
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radu14m

Quote from: pelrun on 10:27, 08 December 14

Yeah, I'm working on a new board myself, and TotO comes along and fills up the fourth slot! Bah!

8 slots board ? Pictures ?  :o

TotO

#94
It's great if third-party boards are comming and seeing MotherX4 a standard, with more than 100pcs dispatched!
Please, just respect the MX4 form factor for your expansions... And the low prices. It's for the community.  8)

I have planned 4 boards along with the MotherX4 project:
- MiniBooster and EXT board
- PlayCity 6ch AY + Counter/Timer interruptions handling
- X-MEM RAM/ROM memory
- X-MASS flash mass-storage

The passthrough connector for extra, like 464 DDI-1 or previous expansions.
If peoples really need to use more than 4 boards at the same time, they should use two MotherX4 and must use a power supply.
But understand that is not recommanded to plug a so long bus on the CPC expansion slot.
Like on PC, better to chose with care witch expansions will fill the motherboard.  ;)
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Munchausen

Quote from: TFM on 00:37, 08 December 14
Well, the SF2 will not fit on an MX4 card, it needs too much different ICs. Also the RTC has a defined size. But X-MASS and X-MEM give you most of the SF2 functionality.

Yes I mean that:

X-MASS can have CF cards probably.
X-MEM has the RAM/ROM.
A 3rd card with RTC and mouse MX4 card would cover all the features of the symbiface.
This could be added as a mini add on board on the minibooster (though also looks like there will be wifi going on to that connector).



CraigsBar

And once you the. Add a play city you need a 2nd m4x
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TFM

Well, an card with SF2 compatible RTC and mouse would be really nice indeed. The SF2 provides a plug for the outdated PS/2 mice. Maybe it's possible to use USB instead.


An even more unlikely idea is this: Using the Minibooster Bluetooth port connecting an wireless Mouse.  :)


Just throwing out my ideas. I know it would take huge amounts of work to realize it.  ;)
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TotO

#98
The Operating System goal is to support hardwares, not the hardwares to support the OS.
X-MASS is compatible because it was easy to do, but about the plug-in card that will add Mouse and RTC to the MiniBooster, it will be not the case.
Great if SymbOS will support MiniBooster features! ;)

Quote from: CraigsBar on 15:43, 08 December 14
And once you the. Add a play city you need a 2nd m4x
Except if the Mouse/RTC card is plugged over the MiniBooster.
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TFM

Quote from: TotO on 19:27, 08 December 14
The Operating System goal is to support hardwares, not the hardwares to support the OS.


I accept your opinion of course. My opinion is that too much new "standards" will give us the same problems to be seen in the PC world (every expansion needs own drivers!!!). IMHO new hardware should be compatible to old hardware if possible. If it can't be, then not.  :)


You have to talk to Prodatron for Minibooster support, I'm sure he is eager to help. But IIRC then Symbos already supports couple things.
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