Which is the best Assembler (Disk/Tape) ?

[SkulleateR]

Which in your opinion would be the best Assembler for "naked" systems (no rom board) on tape (464) and disk (664/6128) ?

"Best" would imply it's easy to use and got a good documentation coming with it .... well, at least SOME documentation 


Oh and since I'm at it ... no such thing as WinAPE please

[Ast]

in my mind, DAMS.


Some other people could tell you MAXAM, but i really think DAMS is better.


CPCRULEZ > AMSTRAD CPC > APPLICATIONS > PROGRAMMATION > DAMS V2015
CPCRULEZ > AMSTRAD CPC > APPLICATIONS > PROGRAMMATION > MAXAM (ARNOR)

[roudoudou]

Dams is versatile but has more limitations so...
for small programms => dams
for huge projects => maxam

[SkulleateR]

Thx so far, already testing

[norecess464]

Talking about DAMS, just a quick reminder that the original author of this assembler published a new version in 2015, fixing some "historical" bugs. Even better, he also released DAMS source-code !


https://github.com/pseguy/dams

[GUNHED]

Dams is versatile but has more limitations so...
for small programms => dams
for huge projects => maxam

Even bigger projects Maxam II under CP/M Plus

[Duke]

It'd be a crime not to use a rom based assembler!
I can't tell how happy I was when I first got MAXAM 1.14 (or maybe it was 1.04) on a single rom board in the end 80's. Before that I used Devpac (which was pretty good) and Maxam II from disc, quite a pain but the luxory of a disc drive and compared to poking hex codes into memory, they were a blessing too

[m_dr_m]

TurboAss from Exodus is pretty nice for small to big projects. Banks are used, that means central RAM is entirely free. The source is pre-assembled and takes even less space than in DAMS/ADAM.


But, do yourself a favour, get a romboard (you can find some for less than £24), or even better, an X-MEM for the extra RAM.


https://cpcrulez.fr/applications_coding-turboass.htm


PS: All Maxam users fell victim to drugs, sexual exploitation or worse, cross-development.

[SkulleateR]

TurboAss from Exodus is pretty nice for small to big projects. Banks are used, that means central RAM is entirely free. The source is pre-assembled and takes even less space than in DAMS/ADAM.


But, do yourself a favour, get a romboard (you can find some for less than £24), or even better, an X-MEM for the extra RAM.


https://cpcrulez.fr/applications_coding-turboass.htm


PS: All Maxam users fell victim to drugs, sexual exploitation or worse, cross-development.

Thanks, will check that ou too ... oh and by the way : I do have a romboard ... but that's not the point

[TotO]

I do have a romboard ... but that's not the point

Sure, "tape/disc" is just a filter to discard OrgAms.

[SkulleateR]

Sure, "tape/disc" is just a filter to discard OrgAms.

Hey then ... give me a tape/disc version of it 

[TotO]

Do you want a collector box version too? 

[SkulleateR]

Do you want a collector box version too? 

Does it have a poster? 

[TotO]

Does it have a poster? 

How do you know?

[roudoudou]

good memories for this poster shooting

[GUNHED]

PS: All Maxam users fell victim to drugs, sexual exploitation or worse, cross-development.

Not entirely, I stopped the drugs and... but back to topic. Guessing I must have around 1 MB of Source Code for Maxam. Yes, it's slow, but I still use it. And at the day I can take a 176 KB Maxam source file and use this (as it is) with a newer assembler - I will do that. Right now.... guess I got to wait a bit longer...

[m_dr_m]

Hey then ... give me a tape/disc version of it  

Sources are available if you want to make a RAM version out of it. I would question the utility but applaud the effort. Like with life.

[m_dr_m]

BTW, thanks to @drill you can get the latest version here (not Disk/Tape): [size=78%]http://orgams.wikidot.com/releases[/size]
I invite you to read the release note to check all the nice new features.


The FF version (with local labels) is still in alpha, so I do not recommend it yet.

[Nich]

TurboAss from Exodus is pretty nice for small to big projects. Banks are used, that means central RAM is entirely free. The source is pre-assembled and takes even less space than in DAMS/ADAM.

I'm a long-time fan of Turbo-Ass as well!

[m_dr_m]

Well, you can see OrgAmS as the best of TurboAss + the best of Dams + some nice Pyradev features

[GUNHED]

The FF version (with local labels) is still in alpha, so I do not recommend it yet.

FF - The Future Fersion, downloaded it few days ago and thought "Oh, I have missed a post". Let us know the day we shall download it please.

[m_dr_m]

Note: this FluffyFlags Alpha 2 works quite well (also, there are hundreds of unit-tests / non-regression tests).


I've used it a lot (well, before switching to alpha 3!), and so has @Ast .
It's just a bit less battle-tested, yet that's a good version to pick if you just plan to do some experiments.

[zhulien]

give PYRADEV a go also, if you have lots of RAM it works with it all (up to 576kb) and has a great debugger - the editor is a bit quirky though - but quite good.