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SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« on: 18:41, 26 April 16 »
So instead of having to switch between three or more 180k 3" sides, I thought it would be cool to pool everything on a single 720k floppy. I used ParaDOS to format a 3.5 disc to ROMDOS 792k and copy the files from all three discs to it. But, of course, the OS didn't boot. I'm assuming the startup disc isn't your standard data disc.

Here, have a lazy cover.
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #1 on: 22:52, 26 April 16 »
So instead of having to switch between three or more 180k 3" sides, I thought it would be cool to pool everything on a single 720k floppy. I used ParaDOS to format a 3.5 disc to ROMDOS 792k and copy the files from all three discs to it. But, of course, the OS didn't boot. I'm assuming the startup disc isn't your standard data disc.

Here, have a lazy cover.
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IIRC symbos supports data, joyce and ms-dos format, but not romdos. You could put everything on a ms-dos disc and boot it from ROM.


I don't know how to add a module for support of other formats, or if it's possible. But this would be the smooth way I guess, because then a 6128 is enough to run it.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #2 on: 03:27, 28 April 16 »
Ok, I thought that SymbOS would be able to read the same formats AMSDOS can, the list of which being expanded by ParaDOS in my case.

I'll try the MS-DOS format then, that would be interesting to be able to exchange files between a PC and a CPC that way.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #3 on: 18:21, 28 April 16 »
Ok, I thought that SymbOS would be able to read the same formats AMSDOS can, the list of which being expanded by ParaDOS in my case.
Nope, it brings its own DOS part.

I'll try the MS-DOS format then, that would be interesting to be able to exchange files between a PC and a CPC that way.
Well, good luck in finding an PC with 3.5' (I mean outside of the dark place where I work).  ;)  Fun at the side, IMHO the future solution will be the Albireo and it's ability to easily use USB sticks. Ok, a little software is needed for that. But it has cool functions like 'show directory' and 'read file' and so on.  :)
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #4 on: 16:07, 03 May 16 »
Ok, I thought that SymbOS would be able to read the same formats AMSDOS can, the list of which being expanded by ParaDOS in my case.

I'll try the MS-DOS format then, that would be interesting to be able to exchange files between a PC and a CPC that way.

Here is a small install/configure manual. How you can configure SymbOS and see what is supported. Maybe it is helpfully.

http://members.home.nl/evanzanten/msxorg/SymbOS%203%20install%20user%20and%20install%20guide.pdf

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #5 on: 16:19, 03 May 16 »
Another option, and I may go this way, is to keep the boot disc on 3" and have an extra programs disc on 3.5". this would even give me an extra 380k of disc space too. But I tried a few different formats and I can't seem to find a suitable double sided, double density one to use?

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #6 on: 18:16, 03 May 16 »
Another option, and I may go this way, is to keep the boot disc on 3" and have an extra programs disc on 3.5". this would even give me an extra 380k of disc space too. But I tried a few different formats and I can't seem to find a suitable double sided, double density one to use?


Why don't you just PM Prodatron instead of do 'Try an error'. I'm sure he is eager to help.  :)
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #7 on: 18:17, 03 May 16 »
Here is a small install/configure manual. How you can configure SymbOS and see what is supported. Maybe it is helpfully.

http://members.home.nl/evanzanten/msxorg/SymbOS%203%20install%20user%20and%20install%20guide.pdf


This doesn't work.
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #8 on: 19:11, 03 May 16 »

Why don't you just PM Prodatron instead of do 'Try an error'. I'm sure he is eager to help.  :)

Because I thought he'd pop on this subject on his own, given the attractive title I gave it ;)
I'm not a fan of dealing with problems via PM, better keep a trace online for future users.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #9 on: 20:14, 03 May 16 »
Because I thought he'd pop on this subject on his own, given the attractive title I gave it ;)
I'm not a fan of dealing with problems via PM, better keep a trace online for future users.

@Prodatron, @Prodatron , I summon thee!


Yeah! Usually that's the right way to go.  :)
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #10 on: 20:50, 03 May 16 »

This doesn't work.

I just checked. Over here it work just fine. Maybe you have a limited internet connection or you have to wait a bit while downloading?

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #11 on: 21:47, 03 May 16 »
Wished so, all I get is this...






Het opgevraagde bestand/pagina is niet bekend

Het kan zijn dat je de verkeerde naam gebruikt. Controleer ook of er geen spaties of spelfouten in staan en probeer het opnieuw.Zoek anders de juiste naam in deze bestandenlijst van Ziggo-internettersNaar de homepage van Ziggo
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #12 on: 21:58, 03 May 16 »
I can access it fine.

The link has spaces in it, maybe your browser doesn't like it? Try copying the link and replacing the spaces with %20

[edit] Or copying the text of the link, instead of the link itself, and use that, haha
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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #13 on: 22:04, 03 May 16 »
Think that is the case indeed. Somehow in the text the spaces were replaced by %20 but if you click on it it's removed.  No idea why. I use Firefox and internet explorer 11 and works fine.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #14 on: 22:13, 03 May 16 »
Maybe you can attach it at a post here, that would make it more easy. I don't want to install new software on a lab computer and my personal laptop is not working at the moment.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #15 on: 22:21, 03 May 16 »
Maybe you can attach it at a post here, that would make it more easy. I don't want to install new software on a lab computer and my personal laptop is not working at the moment.

Nope .. can't help you here...
  An Error Has Occurred!    Your file is too large. The maximum attachment size allowed is 4096 KB.

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #16 on: 22:57, 03 May 16 »
Maybe you can attach it at a post here, that would make it more easy. I don't want to install new software on a lab computer and my personal laptop is not working at the moment.

I recommend Portable Apps. Chrome/Firefox - all on a USB (or hdd) even at restricted "admin only" pc's.

But just for ppl with access problems - try this link: https://app.box.com/s/vqbu28d2xfexsuiu3baeux1h8evte00l

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Re: SymbOS on a 720k floppy?
« Reply #17 on: 23:44, 03 May 16 »
Thanks that worked eventually.  :)
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