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Started by litwr, 14:51, 11 July 14

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litwr

Excuse me this question but please help.  I missed CPC world almost 25 years.  :(  Please give me a link to program to view the plain text files like TYPE at CP/M.  I also need an easy editor for the plain texts like Microsoft Windows Notepad.  Thanks.

steve

Do you have ED on the CP/M disk?
There is also Wordstar.
I am sorry but I do not know much about CP/M.

CraigsBar

Quote from: litwr on 14:51, 11 July 14
Excuse me this question but please help.  I missed CPC world almost 25 years.  :(  Please give me a link to program to view the plain text files like TYPE at CP/M.  I also need an easy editor for the plain texts like Microsoft Windows Notepad.  Thanks.

protext will do this on Rom for amsdos or disc for cp/m.
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fgbrain

For viewing only text files in a very fast and pleasant way, try mine C-View from C-Lab collection.
You can create executable files as well with the Linker tool.

Another easy solution is through DiscoMagic programm. It has view file option...
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litwr

Thanks!  :)  But...
1) ed is only for CP/M and a bit too *savage* - a full screen editor required.
2) protext is too complex and its disk is protected.  I need only a simple notepad.
3) WordStar is for CP/M only.  I like WordStar, I spent a lot of time with Turbo Pascal 3 at 80s.  ;)  I want to find something like Turbo Pascal editor but without Pascal.
The editor should not be protected.  I am going to distribute it with my program.  So it has to be on disk.
Linux has dozen such editors: vi, joe, jed, nano, mcedit, pico, ... Is there something of this kind for AMSDOS?

CraigsBar

VDE would fit the bill, but like the rest it's CP/M again


About VDE - VDE Editor


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steve

Quote from: litwr on 14:51, 11 July 14
Excuse me this question but please help.  I missed CPC world almost 25 years.  :(  Please give me a link to program to view the plain text files like TYPE at CP/M.  I also need an easy editor for the plain texts like Microsoft Windows Notepad.  Thanks.
Quote from: litwr on 21:15, 11 July 14
Thanks!  :)  But...
1) ed is only for CP/M and a bit too *savage* - a full screen editor required.
2) protext is too complex and its disk is protected.  I need only a simple notepad.
3) WordStar is for CP/M only.  I like WordStar, I spent a lot of time with Turbo Pascal 3 at 80s.  ;)  I want to find something like Turbo Pascal editor but without Pascal.
The editor should not be protected.  I am going to distribute it with my program.  So it has to be on disk.
Linux has dozen such editors: vi, joe, jed, nano, mcedit, pico, ... Is there something of this kind for AMSDOS?
OK, your first post made it seem like you wanted a CP/M program, now we know you want a copyright free Amsdos program you should get a lot more suggestions in future.

AMSDOS

This little program from Amstrad Action Issue 53 Forum will simulate the CP/M TYPE command:


10 INPUT"Filename:",a$:OPENIN a$:WHILE NOT EOF:LINE INPUT#9,b$:PRINT b$:CALL &BB18:WEND:CLOSEIN


If you want to keep the text flowing like CP/M TYPE command, I suggest removing the "CALL &BB18" from it.
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Quote from: CraigsBar on 21:26, 11 July 14
VDE would fit the bill, but like the rest it's CP/M again
About VDE - VDE Editor
Or for Amsdos TexTool has some pretty snazzy ASCII editing functions


http://www.genesis8bit.com/frontend/utility/textool.zip


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litwr

Quote from: AMSDOS on 23:20, 11 July 14
This little program from Amstrad Action Issue 53 Forum will simulate the CP/M TYPE command:
Thank you!  :D  I begin to think that the only way to get proper editor is to write it in Basic.  :o


Quote from: CraigsBar on 21:26, 11 July 14
VDE would fit the bill, but like the rest it's CP/M again
VDO/VDE looks fine.  I need it but there is uneasy job of CP/M(MS-DOS, Unix, ...)->AMSDOS conversion for a newbie.  :(  It is also possible to try Unix C sources... Is there an easier way?


Quote from: CraigsBar on 23:39, 11 July 14
Or for Amsdos TexTool has some pretty snazzy ASCII editing functions


I've just tried TeXTool.  It is protected and I couldnot force it to edit ASCII plain text.  :(

CraigsBar

anoth public domain disc......

http://www.genesis8bit.com/frontend/file/u010.zip

This one has 2 word processors on it "domain word" and "wordpro" they might be worth a look
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litwr

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Quote from: CraigsBar on 08:44, 12 July 14
anoth public domain disc......

http://www.genesis8bit.com/frontend/file/u010.zip



Thank you very much!  :)  This archive is  very useful.  It looks like that WordPro and Domain Word are close to my needs.  It is only sad that Word Pro help system is broken.  :(  Are there links list to such kind of archives?  BTW I am seeking also a way to convert ASCII text of BASIC program to the format acceptable by CPC.  ;)

CraigsBar

Quote from: litwr on 12:12, 12 July 14
Are there links list to such kind of archives?  BTW I am seeking also a way to convert ASCII text of BASIC program to the format acceptable by CPC.  ;)


Well most sites are mirrored at ftp://ftp.barnyard.co.uk/


with nice front ends


http://www.genesis8bit.fr/index.php
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CraigsBar

Quote from: litwr on 14:33, 12 July 14
This link is not working. :(

Take the http:// off the front
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SyX

@litwr: You could search in CPC-Power by "word", "text", "edit" or similar words to try a few more applications.

@CraigsBar: Have you configured VDE for using it in a PCW or 6128 with CP/M+???

CraigsBar

Quote from: SyX on 18:20, 12 July 14
@CraigsBar: Have you configured VDE for using it in a PCW or 6128 with CP/M+???


I have used VDE under CP/M on both my CPC 6128 and 6128plus. I used it for writing Basic as it provides excellent editing tools and will output Pure ASCII with nothing else included. It is a long time ago however and I cannot remember if I needed to do any conversion on the result, or if I just changed the extension to BAS and ran it ;)



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litwr

Quote from: SyX on 18:20, 12 July 14
@litwr: You could search in CPC-Power by "word", "text", "edit" or similar words to try a few more applications.
Wow!  It needs months to look at all these programs.  :D Thanks!


Quote from: CraigsBar on 18:27, 12 July 14

I have used VDE under CP/M on both my CPC 6128 and 6128plus. I used it for writing Basic as it provides excellent editing tools and will output Pure ASCII with nothing else included. It is a long time ago however and I cannot remember if I needed to do any conversion on the result, or if I just changed the extension to BAS and ran it ;)
Why to write Basic text under CP/M?  IMHO it is more natural under AMSDOS.  So it gives a theoretical question.  Is it easy to convert open source program from CP/M to AMSDOS?
I forgot that CPC Basic unlike Commodore may use pure ASCII sources.

Zoe Robinson

I'm a little late to this party but one of the early Amstrad Action type-ins was a decent text editor in BASIC. It's called "Text Editor" and it's on the issue 23 (September 1987) type-ins .DSK:

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:AA_type-ins_issue24.dsk.zip

CraigsBar

Quote from: litwr on 05:55, 13 July 14
Why to write Basic text under CP/M?  IMHO it is more natural under AMSDOS.  So it gives a theoretical question.  Is it easy to convert open source program from CP/M to AMSDOS?
I forgot that CPC Basic unlike Commodore may use pure ASCII sources.


Because the editing tools are better, You can jump up and down between lines of code without needing to edit <line number> etc. I just used to modify my code as I went along, nine times out of ten I'd change the values printed to a menu or similar as I went along.


Using VDE meant I could just cursor up to the line and change it. Much quicker and easier than using Amsdos directly - although I admit you had to save and test separately so reloading time was a pain when bug shooting.


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Nich

Quote from: Zoe Robinson on 08:43, 13 July 14
I'm a little late to this party but one of the early Amstrad Action type-ins was a decent text editor in BASIC. It's called "Text Editor" and it's on the issue 23 (September 1987) type-ins .DSK:
I've found another text editor from AA53 (February 1990) called Swift Text Editor, which Swift Software also included with their game creation package Pandora. I've even fixed a couple of bugs! :)

The attached DSK file contains the corrected version of the program (SWTEXT.BAS) and a version that has been modified to work in BASIC 1.0 (SWTEX464.BAS). There's a really weird bug in BASIC 1.0 where if you want to run or open some files, it sometimes uses the wrong filename. ??? But in any case, the program doesn't work all that well in BASIC 1.0 even after being fixed, especially if you're working with large text files.

litwr

Quote from: Nich on 18:40, 13 July 14
The attached DSK file contains the corrected version of the program (SWTEXT.BAS) and a version that has been modified to work in BASIC 1.0 (SWTEX464.BAS). There's a really weird bug in BASIC 1.0 where if you want to run or open some files, it sometimes uses the wrong filename. ??? But in any case, the program doesn't work all that well in BASIC 1.0 even after being fixed, especially if you're working with large text files.
Thank you!  It looks good and has the help.  :)


Quote from: CraigsBar on 18:36, 13 July 14

Because the editing tools are better, You can jump up and down between lines of code without needing to edit <line number> etc. I just used to modify my code as I went along, nine times out of ten I'd change the values printed to a menu or similar as I went along.


Using VDE meant I could just cursor up to the line and change it. Much quicker and easier than using Amsdos directly - although I admit you had to save and test separately so reloading time was a pain when bug shooting.

Craig


My point was other.  I want just to RUN"VDE   ;)


CraigsBar

Quote from: litwr on 19:43, 13 July 14
My point was other.  I want just to RUN"VDE   ;)
I had a modified cp/m + vde start of day disk. So |cpm brought me straight to vde.

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SyX

@litwr: For making RUN"VDE, basically you are going to need a minimal cpm emulator (converting the cpm bios functions used by VDE to make the firmware and handle the ram paging as cpm does), but it's faster launch cpm and even more faster if you use the CPM+ roms, jejeje.

Quote from: CraigsBar on 19:57, 13 July 14
I had a modified cp/m + vde start of day disk. So |cpm brought me straight to vde.
It's a shame you haven't it anymore; i tried to install it, but now i have not patience for making the terminal configuration ;D

CraigsBar

Quote from: SyX on 23:50, 13 July 14
@litwr:
It's a shame you haven't it anymore; i tried to install it, but now i have not patience for making the terminal configuration ;D

Still got it... Definitely. Still working.... Possibly. Take some time to find... Indeed. But I'll take a look tomorrow.

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