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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #600 on: 18:45, 30 July 12 »
Maybe they just wanted to sell a complete system: Like a Computer with Monitor and Storage Medium.
 
Exactly the opposite of the C64, which has no value. Since you have to by a monitor or tv and you have to buy a tape or disc. Without all that additonal stuff it can't be used. Ok some freaks had a c64 and did not switch it off for weeks - until they got a tape to save threir progs.  :laugh: :P
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #601 on: 20:11, 30 July 12 »
I'm sure that Amstrad wanted to sell a complete system rather than a component that had to share resources. Also, IIRC Amstrad had sourced a lot of cheap displays. This matched well to their policy of selling integrated HiFis rather than components.


I guess it made sense to incorporate the tape deck into the main unit, it probably cut costs and improved reliability.


This made the CPC far more family friendly than alternatives that also required you to have a TV and suitable cassette deck, and probably led to a reduction in household arguments about the TV being hogged.

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #602 on: 10:56, 31 July 12 »
Briggsy beat me to it. Indeed, they could have heard feedback about problems with tape recorders, but it's not like it was the first time they went for a similar design. It was a matter of philosophy, rather than a reaction to specific market information. Also, this is what is mentioned in all the books about Amstrad (which is: the three Sugar biographies).

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #603 on: 13:22, 31 July 12 »
I assume that they got some sort of feedback that the tape connections were causing the most issues / customer inquiries on other machines. I can't think of any other reason to do it.
Because it's exactly the same strategy they made their name with on hi-fi gear. Instead of separates, Amstrad pioneered the all-in-one hi-fi system and were universally praised for the value-for-money they brought and ease of setup.

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #604 on: 14:24, 31 July 12 »
I never read any of those Biographies, I only read Hardware books :D

My first Hi-Fi was an Amstrad. I still have it stored in my parents attic :)

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #605 on: 16:35, 31 July 12 »
Because it's exactly the same strategy they made their name with on hi-fi gear. Instead of separates, Amstrad pioneered the all-in-one hi-fi system and were universally praised for the value-for-money they brought and ease of setup.



Plus they put lots of knobs and switches at the front so you could pretend it was actually a HiFi.

@Bryce: aren't people hardware?

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #606 on: 19:07, 31 July 12 »
People are "wetware".

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #607 on: 22:02, 31 July 12 »
@Bryce: aren't people hardware?
Hihi! So funny. Well, I know, you do believe in Marx and Darwin too. :P :laugh:
 
People are "wetware".
Yes, 63% H2O. ;D
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #608 on: 22:34, 31 July 12 »
@Bryce: aren't people hardware?

Technically we're just the case :D Our nervous sytem is the real circuitry.

I remember most of the Amstrad HiFis had graphic equalizer graphics drawn onto the front,
but no real equalizer or LEDs behind it. Mine was the "luxury" version. It had an 8 channel
equalizer drawn on the front, and a three channel equalizer spaced generously across it.
The CD Player display was two 7 Segment displays.

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #609 on: 23:30, 31 July 12 »
He's kidding right?  £250 for a 464+


I suppose the special edition Amsterdam 464 goes for a lot more nowdays   ;D

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #610 on: 23:44, 31 July 12 »
Amsterdam... Maybe it's full of weed?

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #611 on: 21:23, 01 August 12 »
How about this one then: Amstrad 6128 Plus | eBay he's at it again! Broken keyboard, faulty disc drive - apparently it's a great bargain and works fine apart from the somewhat aforementioned serious problems. No pictures other than the terrible one on the page and no indication that it even works. Sold as seen, no returns - all yours for the fantastic price of £180 (plus £10 postage). If he sells that I'll eat my hat!
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #612 on: 23:31, 01 August 12 »
Have a good meal!  8)
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #613 on: 23:52, 01 August 12 »
I'm tempted to buy it, just to see you eat a hat :D Youtube or it didn't happen :)

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #614 on: 00:23, 02 August 12 »
What I didn't say of course is what sort of hat it would be. I'm pretty sure Starmix or one of those other kids sweets selection do a jelly shaped hat which of course I'd be delighted to eat if needs be ;).
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #615 on: 10:46, 02 August 12 »
While you are busy eating that hat, I spotted this on ebay during the week:

If any one is looking for a suitable transformer to supply a CPC or most other 8-Bit computers (other than a C64 which needs 9VAC), this might be a good choice. It can supply a whopping 8A on the 5V rail and 3A on the 12V rail and even has a -12V (500mA) output should you need it. It looks quite compact and for €15 is quite a bargain.
I've just ordered one to power something else (a Neo Geo), so I'll let you know how it is when it arrives.

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #616 on: 11:08, 02 August 12 »
Yes, it's the clever way to make an alternative powersupply for CPC 664/6128 and Amiga too !!! (-12V)


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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #617 on: 11:23, 02 August 12 »
How about this one then: Amstrad 6128 Plus | eBay he's at it again! Broken keyboard, faulty disc drive - apparently it's a great bargain and works fine apart from the somewhat aforementioned serious problems. No pictures other than the terrible one on the page and no indication that it even works. Sold as seen, no returns - all yours for the fantastic price of £180 (plus £10 postage). If he sells that I'll eat my hat!

Well, I offered him £20 and he turned it down. I said that, in it's current poor condition, that's all it's worth to me  :laugh:

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #618 on: 16:54, 02 August 12 »
Definitely - £20 tops, there's no proof it even works and by his own terms if it turns out to be a dud you're stuck with it!


I recently bought a 6128plus from France for £50 and that was fully working order with nowhere near the amount of yellowing of that one! OK so it has a French keyboard but that's no biggie, you can convert it to UK with a new cartridge and suitable replacement keyboard which can be forged from an old CPC6128 if you're feeling hacky!


I pushed the boat out for fun and offered him £25 which I think is more than generous considering the condition. He will of course reject it but maybe if others here make similar offers he may work out its true value!
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #619 on: 19:36, 02 August 12 »
What I didn't say of course is what sort of hat it would be. I'm pretty sure Starmix or one of those other kids sweets selection do a jelly shaped hat which of course I'd be delighted to eat if needs be ;) .

You can eat the jellyfish hat ... but only the punk version with the nails :laugh:
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #620 on: 23:52, 02 August 12 »
Awwww that's a bit unfair - unless of course the nails can be made from sherbet? I cheekily offered him £25 for it. He of course rejected this. Apparently he sold a similar machine recently for £135. I remember it, there was no mention of it being broken in any way. It seems somewhat odd that a very broken one is somehow worth £45 more than a working one....

Hat eating aside it will be interesting to see what happens. In my mind he has broken every retro sales computer rule out there - one crap picture giving no indication it even works, no returns - so even if it's completely totalled he doesn't want to know, using that "rare" word then attaching an incredible price tag and claiming it's a bargain! He clearly has no passion for the machines and just wants to extract as much money as possible! That is not a good person to buy from.

I've sold many machines in the past, I'm always honest in my descriptions and make sure that the machines always work properly, are presented in the best condition possible and most importantly taking everything into account have an appropriate price tag attached!
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #621 on: 17:31, 03 August 12 »
eBay should develop image scanning technologies. In cases such as this, when you bid a pop-up should scream in your face: YOU SURE YOU WANT THAT PIECE OF CRAP? THE SELLER SOLD ONE LIKE THIS, IN BETTER, WORKING CONDITION JUST A WHILE AGO, WHY DON'T YOU CHECK OUT SOME OF OUR OTHER AUCTIONS, HMMMM?

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #622 on: 11:24, 04 August 12 »
Hehe that would soon sort out some of these unscrupulous sellers! Unfortunately stupid people are everywhere, everyday on UK TV there is some story about how someone got ripped off. At first I feel sorry for the person, but often as the story emerges you realised that they have been more than stupid and it's at that point that my sympathy wanes....


I think what annoys me the most really is the lack of care and attention that sellers trying to make a quick buck pay to their eBay listings. In a way it's disrespectful to the machine they are trying to sell and you feel annoyed that people that feckless own them to sell in the first place. Mis-spelled, inaccurate descriptions, terrible photos and an arrogant assumption of value are all things that feck me off from the outset!


Still the good old phrase "let the buyer beware" is always pertinent and I think particularly so in cases like these.
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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #623 on: 12:01, 06 August 12 »
eBay should develop image scanning technologies. In cases such as this, when you bid a pop-up should scream in your face: YOU SURE YOU WANT THAT PIECE OF CRAP? THE SELLER SOLD ONE LIKE THIS, IN BETTER, WORKING CONDITION JUST A WHILE AGO, WHY DON'T YOU CHECK OUT SOME OF OUR OTHER AUCTIONS, HMMMM?

At the moment, ebay.de lists 104 articles for Amstrad/Schneider. If they introduced that scanner, the article count would drop to about 7 Articles :D

Btw: The transformer I mentioned above ebay Item No: 310405195106 arrived on Saturday. It's well made, robust, relatively small and perfect for most 8-Bit computers. With 8A 5V, 3A 12V and 0.5A -12V it will power almost any 8-bit in your collection (except Commodores and Acorn Electrons)

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Re: Latest on ebay
« Reply #624 on: 14:06, 07 August 12 »
With 8A 5V, 3A 12V and 0.5A -12V it will power almost any 8-bit in your collection (except Commodores and Acorn Electrons)

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Really? Does the c64 need more than 8A to warm your bread?