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Title: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: GUNHED on 01:33, 05 May 21
What happened?

Even in the HOS I see no reason that he got banned.
Is there something we don't know?

He is a very helpful, creative an producing person.

Shouldn't a Waring be enough?
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: pelrun on 08:23, 05 May 21
Getting progressively more abusive towards Gryzor over imaginary slights doesn't seem like a winning formula to me.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 08:41, 05 May 21

I take this viewpoint:

This is a Forum for the CPC and CPC related subjects.
So get involved, get passionate, even maybe a little angry sometimes.

NEVER get personal.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 14:03, 05 May 21
Good riddance. Most of his stuff was very passive aggressive and he purposely poked the bear on multiple topics to get a rise out of people.

Made the forum uncomfortable to read at times, so I for one won’t miss him.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: GUNHED on 20:32, 05 May 21
Well, all you tell about him is what most folks around here do all the time - sadly. Why is it ok for some and for others not?

Seriously, I was asking for an example. I can't find something that is bad enough for a ban (even a short one). Please provide an example if you can.

If I look in the threads in the HOS other guys wrote worse things (yes, you still can read them). So why can they do it - and others not? This is just not fair. So if he gets personal - sorry, that's IMHO just an reaction.

IMHO it may be better to calm down (all) and then unban him.

Don't forget he is one of the very few really productive CPC sceners around her.
(Being productive is in my book: creating hardware, programming, doing good GFX, good sounds or songs. But not what everybody can do.)
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 12:59, 06 May 21
From what I could see from his last posts on the Just CPC thread, he was banned for the same reason as TFM (heeeeeeey remember that guy?!) was banned.
Not necessarily for what he said, but for how he said it. Simple rule of most forums, if you can't be civil in your discussion then sling your hook!

Gryzor gave him plenty of chances, and he still continued to act like a dick, so he banned him. Seems simple enough to me?

As for your contribution points. I agree to an extent, but if they're going to be preachy and self-righteous about it, then nobody wants that on their screen.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: GUNHED on 21:48, 06 May 21
From what I could see from his last posts on the Just CPC thread, he was banned for the same reason as TFM (heeeeeeey remember that guy?!) was banned.
Not necessarily for what he said, but for how he said it.
Really? 'How he said it' ??? ??? ??? ??

So you guys can basically ban everybody at every time, right?
It's because he used the wrong sound in his voice. And you hear that from the letters?
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Skunkfish on 01:03, 07 May 21
So, since I've been meaning to ask for ages and I'm not sure if it's the case: is VintageAdvantage the same person as LambdaMikel?
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: GUNHED on 04:27, 07 May 21
Yes, the producer of lots of decent stuff for the CPC. However it wasn't that easy for him here.

Let me elaborate on this ... but in general.

What's the purpose of this forum here?

One could agree to... share ideas, software, hardware and great new/old times in common. Using synergy effects, especially creating projects for the CPC.

Of course this works best (or only?) in a positive way. Now, we're sadly no CPCs, we just biological units called humans. However we do have mind, spirit, soul and psychology.
Therefore we all(!) do have days which are good and that other kind of days. No one knows the reason behind, because we do not meet in person.

Now, if (excuse the open words) somebody has a really bad day and eventualle gets pi**ed off, then what would be the right way to handle that?
IMHO the best thing is to support people by telling something like "Hey friend, did you have a bad day? Can we all take a deep breath. Or ... Hey, let's see what do we have in common... and so on.

Again IMHO the forum shouldn't be a place to take out negative things - for nobody!
So, if somebody has a bad day, then LET US BE SUPPORTIVE, and not destructive.  :)

Third time IMHO, things could be handled here a bit more positive. Yes, we are a big community, but the way is not to ban.

- Every negative post is the wrong way.
- Every bad answer is the wrong way.
- Every warning is the wrong way.
- Especially every ban is a wrong way.

Instead of negative means, we should work together as a community - and especially when opinions collide, we should moderate. But moderation is being of help, not to ban.

So, why don't we take all all things not a bit more lightweight? It would enhance all of our CPC related projects.

Consider what (persons) we lost already. It's a pity.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 10:25, 07 May 21
Really? 'How he said it' ??? ??? ??? ??

So you guys can basically ban everybody at every time, right?
It's because he used the wrong sound in his voice. And you hear that from the letters?


Really? That's your strawman argument you're going to try to use to defend the guy?
VA was obnoxious, rude, arrogant, passive aggressive and in general came off as a complete dick in most of his posts, and I know I'm not the only one who thought that.

His last few posts were blatant towards Gryzor, including him TELLING HIM to either ban him or move his posts to the hall of shame.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sorry.  ::)
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Gryzor on 11:59, 07 May 21
Dude, dissing the very object we discuss here (even if it's the GX) and when remarked upon telling the admin to shut up is never a good idea. The post is still up there, not even in the HOS. And yes, he tried to rile people more than enough times. He got plenty of warnings.

I have no idea what happened to him between Lambda and Vintage and he started acting so passively-aggressively, but this is not the place to do it. Creative, sure, knowledgeable, of course, but that doesn't give you a pass to be an asshole to others. We're here to have fun, not just tolerate each other.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: GUNHED on 16:20, 07 May 21
...
VA was obnoxious, rude, arrogant, passive aggressive and in general came off as a complete dick in most of his posts, ...
But you can insult people? If you do it, it's just fine, right?
I wouldn't even use such words in a decent forum!
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Gryzor on 16:25, 07 May 21
Man, move on. Enough is enough.
Title: Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 16:34, 07 May 21
But you can insult people? If you do it, it's just fine, right?
I wouldn't even use such words in a decent forum!

Think you need to brush up on your English sir.
I said "he came across as a complete dick", that's not quite the same as being one.

I'll stand by that statement, he did.