Author Topic: About VintageAdvantage ban  (Read 1309 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 2.846
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
    • Awards
About VintageAdvantage ban
« on: 01:33, 05 May 21 »
What happened?

Even in the HOS I see no reason that he got banned.
Is there something we don't know?

He is a very helpful, creative an producing person.

Shouldn't a Waring be enough?
like
0
No reactions
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Update: 2021.01.24)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2021.07.15)

Offline pelrun

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 795
  • Country: au
    • index.php?action=treasury
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #1 on: 08:23, 05 May 21 »
Getting progressively more abusive towards Gryzor over imaginary slights doesn't seem like a winning formula to me.
like
0
No reactions

Offline ComSoft6128

  • ..................................
  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 2.377
  • Country: scotland
  • CPC THEN CPC NOW
    • index.php?action=treasury
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #2 on: 08:41, 05 May 21 »

I take this viewpoint:

This is a Forum for the CPC and CPC related subjects.
So get involved, get passionate, even maybe a little angry sometimes.

NEVER get personal.
« Last Edit: 08:57, 05 May 21 by ComSoft6128 »
like
0
No reactions

Offline Shaun M. Neary

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 1.707
  • Country: ie
  • BASIC 1.0 - Ready
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #3 on: 14:03, 05 May 21 »
Good riddance. Most of his stuff was very passive aggressive and he purposely poked the bear on multiple topics to get a rise out of people.

Made the forum uncomfortable to read at times, so I for one won’t miss him.
like
0
No reactions
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 2.846
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #4 on: 20:32, 05 May 21 »
Well, all you tell about him is what most folks around here do all the time - sadly. Why is it ok for some and for others not?

Seriously, I was asking for an example. I can't find something that is bad enough for a ban (even a short one). Please provide an example if you can.

If I look in the threads in the HOS other guys wrote worse things (yes, you still can read them). So why can they do it - and others not? This is just not fair. So if he gets personal - sorry, that's IMHO just an reaction.

IMHO it may be better to calm down (all) and then unban him.

Don't forget he is one of the very few really productive CPC sceners around her.
(Being productive is in my book: creating hardware, programming, doing good GFX, good sounds or songs. But not what everybody can do.)
« Last Edit: 20:36, 05 May 21 by GUNHED »
like
0
No reactions
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Update: 2021.01.24)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2021.07.15)

Offline Shaun M. Neary

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 1.707
  • Country: ie
  • BASIC 1.0 - Ready
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #5 on: 12:59, 06 May 21 »
From what I could see from his last posts on the Just CPC thread, he was banned for the same reason as TFM (heeeeeeey remember that guy?!) was banned.
Not necessarily for what he said, but for how he said it. Simple rule of most forums, if you can't be civil in your discussion then sling your hook!

Gryzor gave him plenty of chances, and he still continued to act like a dick, so he banned him. Seems simple enough to me?

As for your contribution points. I agree to an extent, but if they're going to be preachy and self-righteous about it, then nobody wants that on their screen.
like
0
No reactions
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 2.846
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #6 on: 21:48, 06 May 21 »
From what I could see from his last posts on the Just CPC thread, he was banned for the same reason as TFM (heeeeeeey remember that guy?!) was banned.
Not necessarily for what he said, but for how he said it.
Really? 'How he said it' ??? ??? ??? ??

So you guys can basically ban everybody at every time, right?
It's because he used the wrong sound in his voice. And you hear that from the letters?
like
0
No reactions
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Update: 2021.01.24)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2021.07.15)

Offline Skunkfish

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 721
  • Country: gb
  • Editor of Colour Personal Computing
    • CPCSTORE.CO.UK - Dedicated to the Amstrad CPC
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #7 on: 01:03, 07 May 21 »
So, since I've been meaning to ask for ages and I'm not sure if it's the case: is VintageAdvantage the same person as LambdaMikel?
like
0
No reactions
An expanding array of hardware available at www.cpcstore.co.uk (and issue 3 of CPC Fanzine!)

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 2.846
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #8 on: 04:27, 07 May 21 »
Yes, the producer of lots of decent stuff for the CPC. However it wasn't that easy for him here.

Let me elaborate on this ... but in general.

What's the purpose of this forum here?

One could agree to... share ideas, software, hardware and great new/old times in common. Using synergy effects, especially creating projects for the CPC.

Of course this works best (or only?) in a positive way. Now, we're sadly no CPCs, we just biological units called humans. However we do have mind, spirit, soul and psychology.
Therefore we all(!) do have days which are good and that other kind of days. No one knows the reason behind, because we do not meet in person.

Now, if (excuse the open words) somebody has a really bad day and eventualle gets pi**ed off, then what would be the right way to handle that?
IMHO the best thing is to support people by telling something like "Hey friend, did you have a bad day? Can we all take a deep breath. Or ... Hey, let's see what do we have in common... and so on.

Again IMHO the forum shouldn't be a place to take out negative things - for nobody!
So, if somebody has a bad day, then LET US BE SUPPORTIVE, and not destructive.  :)

Third time IMHO, things could be handled here a bit more positive. Yes, we are a big community, but the way is not to ban.

- Every negative post is the wrong way.
- Every bad answer is the wrong way.
- Every warning is the wrong way.
- Especially every ban is a wrong way.

Instead of negative means, we should work together as a community - and especially when opinions collide, we should moderate. But moderation is being of help, not to ban.

So, why don't we take all all things not a bit more lightweight? It would enhance all of our CPC related projects.

Consider what (persons) we lost already. It's a pity.
« Last Edit: 04:32, 07 May 21 by GUNHED »
like
0
No reactions
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Update: 2021.01.24)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2021.07.15)

Offline Shaun M. Neary

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 1.707
  • Country: ie
  • BASIC 1.0 - Ready
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #9 on: 10:25, 07 May 21 »
Really? 'How he said it' ??? ??? ??? ??

So you guys can basically ban everybody at every time, right?
It's because he used the wrong sound in his voice. And you hear that from the letters?


Really? That's your strawman argument you're going to try to use to defend the guy?
VA was obnoxious, rude, arrogant, passive aggressive and in general came off as a complete dick in most of his posts, and I know I'm not the only one who thought that.

His last few posts were blatant towards Gryzor, including him TELLING HIM to either ban him or move his posts to the hall of shame.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sorry.  ::)
like
0
No reactions
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?

Offline Gryzor

  • Administrator
  • 6128 Plus
  • *****
  • Posts: 17.127
  • Country: gr
  • CPC-Wiki maintainer
    • CPCWiki
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #10 on: 11:59, 07 May 21 »
Dude, dissing the very object we discuss here (even if it's the GX) and when remarked upon telling the admin to shut up is never a good idea. The post is still up there, not even in the HOS. And yes, he tried to rile people more than enough times. He got plenty of warnings.

I have no idea what happened to him between Lambda and Vintage and he started acting so passively-aggressively, but this is not the place to do it. Creative, sure, knowledgeable, of course, but that doesn't give you a pass to be an asshole to others. We're here to have fun, not just tolerate each other.
like
0
No reactions

Offline GUNHED

  • 6128 Plus
  • ******
  • Posts: 2.846
  • Country: de
  • Reincarnation of TFM
    • FutureOS - The quickest OS for the CPC and Plus
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #11 on: 16:20, 07 May 21 »
...
VA was obnoxious, rude, arrogant, passive aggressive and in general came off as a complete dick in most of his posts, ...
But you can insult people? If you do it, it's just fine, right?
I wouldn't even use such words in a decent forum!
like
0
No reactions
http://futureos.de --> Get the revolutionary FutureOS (Update: 2021.01.24)
http://futureos.cpc-live.com/files/LambdaSpeak_RSX_by_TFM.zip --> Get the RSX-ROM for LambdaSpeak :-) (Updated: 2021.07.15)

Offline Gryzor

  • Administrator
  • 6128 Plus
  • *****
  • Posts: 17.127
  • Country: gr
  • CPC-Wiki maintainer
    • CPCWiki
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #12 on: 16:25, 07 May 21 »
Man, move on. Enough is enough.
like
0
No reactions

Offline Shaun M. Neary

  • Supporter
  • 6128 Plus
  • *
  • Posts: 1.707
  • Country: ie
  • BASIC 1.0 - Ready
    • Awards
Re: About VintageAdvantage ban
« Reply #13 on: 16:34, 07 May 21 »
But you can insult people? If you do it, it's just fine, right?
I wouldn't even use such words in a decent forum!

Think you need to brush up on your English sir.
I said "he came across as a complete dick", that's not quite the same as being one.

I'll stand by that statement, he did.
like
0
No reactions
Currently playing on: 2xCPC464, 1xCPC6128, 1x464Plus, 1x6128Plus, 2xGX4000. M4 board, ZMem 1MB and still forever playing Bruce Lee.
No cheats, snapshots or emulation. I play my games as they're intended to be played. What about you?