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General Category => CPCWiki Discussion => Topic started by: ComSoft6128 on 09:11, 07 May 21

Title: Banning members
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 09:11, 07 May 21
Hi Gryzor (and the other moderators),

This is not specific to the posts from @GUNHED (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2029) regarding VintageAdvantage but was prompted by them.
Should there by a clear policy of say "three strikes and you're out" on this?
Maybe with bans lasting 3/6/12 months depending on the level of offense caused?

Peter
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: pelrun on 10:00, 07 May 21
What do you even mean by "strikes"? Gryzor has rarely taken action except in egregious cases, and usually when there's been abuse via PM. Just because whatever posts still remain public may not appear to be bad, doesn't mean the action isn't justifiable.
There's no need for official policies, after all this forum is 100% a benevolent dictatorship and the rule has always been pretty consistently "don't be more trouble than you're worth."

Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 10:05, 07 May 21
Morning there!

Not sure what post you're referring to, but it doesn't matter I guess!

I see what you're saying and it does make sense; in effect we are enforcing something of the sort - bans are progressive, and sometimes we implement moderation *before* the first, short ban. However, it's very hard to do a "clear policy", because not one size fits all. How can one judge the levels of offense beforehand so as to lay down the rules?
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 10:08, 07 May 21
"don't be more trouble than you're worth."

Whoa, this should be in the registration agreement! I'm stealing the quote :)

Actually, there was a pretty clear policy shown upon registration about being nice to each other and loving trees and being one with nature and all that, strangely it appears it has changed - probably with some software upgrade. Hm.
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 10:11, 07 May 21
Understood.


A Red Card then?






Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 10:17, 07 May 21
Isn't a ban a red card?

Behind the scenes there's a warning system that works kind like yellow and red cards; you can send a warning to a member and set the warning level between 0-100%. Above a certain percentage all the member's posts are moderated (a moderator needs to approve them). That warning level slowly decreases by itself.

However, this system clearly doesn't work with people who don't give a f*ck and openly say so; in those cases incremental bans are usually applied...
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 10:28, 07 May 21
Red card = a public announcement that you are being a knob/making unwelcome personal comments.



Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 10:32, 07 May 21
Ah, but I think we're doing that already?
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 10:53, 07 May 21
Red card = a public announcement that you are being a knob/making unwelcome personal comments.


To be honest, in a forum frequented by 40 and 50 somethings. Should that really be necessary?
Personal accountability.
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 10:59, 07 May 21

To be honest, in a forum frequented by 40 and 50 somethings. Should that really be necessary?
Personal accountability.

You'd think that, wouldn't you.
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 11:02, 07 May 21
It shouldn't be necessary but unfortunately a public Forum will always have the occasional member, that occasionally,  needs a wee public kick in the bum.
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 11:05, 07 May 21
It shouldn't be necessary but unfortunately a public Forum will always have the occasional member, that occasionally,  needs a wee public kick in the bum.
And they do... out the door!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Banning members
Post by: Gryzor on 11:06, 07 May 21
I do know a few 40+ assholes to be honest. Also, there's no "INTERNET OFF" switch for when you're drunk or feeling down  etc etc so it's no wonder that people will sometimes will go off the rails.