am wondering if the cpc wiki will be going on FB ???
It would be a good idea to add at least a Page. Still not enough people know about the forum as the focus for CPC discussions.
A Group would be nice but it might take away some of the discussion from the forum which might not be a good thing.
I don't see the point for a FB page, but definitely not against it.
If I typed in Amstrad CPC into Google, CPCWiki is the 3rd (or 4th if you count the Images) Site to come up, after Amstrad CPC on Wikipedia & " You're NOT fired: The story of Amstrad's amazing CPC 464", but if I type in Amstrad into Google, CPCWiki appears on Page 2, 3rd Link Down after Amstrad ESP and Tim's Amstrad NC User's Site, though results may vary, which seems really unfortunate given the amount of traffic this site gets. The problem though is if someone types in CPC into google, I get all these results about Engineering, Cement works, a company which makes Radiator & Fuel Caps. :o
So the problem I see is Google doesn't consider this a priority site if someone simply typed in Amstrad into the Search Engine, which is shocking. Some of those Computer Museums should move for this site.
Quote from: AMSDOS on 00:09, 24 December 14
If I typed in Amstrad CPC into Google, CPCWiki is the 3rd (or 4th if you count the Images) Site to come up, after Amstrad CPC on Wikipedia & " You're NOT fired: The story of Amstrad's amazing CPC 464", but if I type in Amstrad into Google, CPCWiki appears on Page 2, 3rd Link Down after Amstrad ESP and Tim's Amstrad NC User's Site, though results may vary, which seems really unfortunate given the amount of traffic this site gets. The problem though is if someone types in CPC into google, I get all these results about Engineering, Cement works, a company which makes Radiator & Fuel Caps. :o
So the problem I see is Google doesn't consider this a priority site if someone simply typed in Amstrad into the Search Engine, which is shocking. Some of those Computer Museums should move for this site.
is it not the more you pay google these days is where you end up on the search pages ?
Quote from: Xyphoe on 22:15, 23 December 14
It would be a good idea to add at least a Page. Still not enough people know about the forum as the focus for CPC discussions.
A Group would be nice but it might take away some of the discussion from the forum which might not be a good thing.
its quite possible that it might take away some discussion from here but there's always the possibility it could attract more users here and the FB site could be used to promote and illustrate what is happening on the cpcwiki.
i noticed that Xyphoe uses a similar method to promote his cpc / retro game vids
setting up a FB page is free afterall its well worth having a go.
i would imagine getting the stats of site traffic etc would tell you if it is working or not and if it doesn't work out or you're feeling it is taking away from this site you could always close the FB page down.
i was playing a FB app called PES a while ago and set up a page to interact with other users was quite good experience until KONAMI closed it down which was bizzare they had over 400,000 worldwide users and growing ..... so anyways hopefully if there were a cpcwiki FB it turns out to be a positive experience as well
maybe a poll would be good to see what cpcwiki users are thinking ?
Quote from: cpc4eva on 06:35, 24 December 14
is it not the more you pay google these days is where you end up on the search pages ?
Not sure, I have a small Turbo Pascal website with Generic and Amstrad specific programs on it. If I type in Turbo Pascal 3 specifically into Google my site it appears 8th on Page 1. If I just type in Turbo Pascal by itself, I got to Page 3 when I saw my site (again in 8th position).
I don't pay Google anything to have the site pop up there, but the site pays for itself through Advertising, so perhaps that's contributing??
The CPCWiki will still be around, after Facebook is long gone and forgotten. :)
Bryce.
Quote from: Bryce on 10:57, 24 December 14
The CPCWiki will still be around, after Facebook is long gone and forgotten. :)
Bryce.
id like to think so to....... but nothing in this life is a sure thing......except life, death, taxes and more taxes....
....and dodgy P********s ;)
it was the one and only i received so was your presents as dodgy as my melted wonder ????
Quote from: cpc4eva on 06:35, 26 December 14
it was the one and only i received so was your presents as dodgy as my melted wonder ??? ?
I was a little bit surprised what I got, the large volume of food that was done was more of a surprise.
The only amstrad fb page I know of is the 464 page and most people in there refer to cpcwiki all the time like most places on t'internet when talking about the cpc.
I don't know if a fb page is necessary or not but I do know that Gryzor should be proud of what he's accomplished.
cpcwiki is the place to go to for amstrad so maybe fb could help raise awareness and help it expand.
Fact is fb is where a lot go these days after google.
Maybe Facebook should open an account on the Wiki :D
Bryce.
Quote from: Bryce on 11:46, 26 December 14
Maybe Facebook should open an account on the Wiki :D
Bryce.
It could be a bot with lowercase "f" and blue background avatar.
A few different issues here, and thanks everyone for your input (and kind words)!
-Getting on Facebook: sure, very easy to do and it could indeed gain some traction for the wiki. However, how many of us use it? What I mean is, comments, sharing and participation on the FB page will probably begin from us. But, whenever I've mentioned Facebook here in the past I've been tsk-tsk'ed to no end. We even had sharing buttons (Twitter and Facebook) present in every page but nobody ever used them (and then Bryce complained that the forum is breaking his ISP or something to that effect so I removed them :D ). So, would people actually participate and share? I might as well try it...
-Google results. That's a weird one. I know CPCWiki doesn't fare too well on Google, which is a mystery because it's got what Google wants: authority and content. Meaning, lots of links to it from other sites, biggest traffic and, of course, largest amount of data. At some point I did some SEO stuff on the site and the situation did improve a bit but I haven't dealt with it ever since and obviously it didn't go far. But I'd have guessed that the quality and popularity of the site itself would suffice to propel it to the top of Google's results. So if anyone's got any experience with SEO please do get in touch with me!
-Speaking of social stuff, engagement etc; I was thinking of doing a proper newsletter, with news from the site and highlighting interesting/important pieces of news or discussions. Probably on a monthly basis. Do you think it'd be terribly spammy if I sent it to all the email addresses in our database? Of course there'd be an unsubscribe link and all that, I just want to gauge interest. I think it would help bring inactive users back... thoughts?
T
I dont mind getting emails.... i would like being notified it would help me remember to visit the site just like your recent post on FB with the lonk to the gx4000 thread that made me come here and read the thread :)
A monthly newsletter would be good
Heeeey what do you know, love it or hate it...
https://www.facebook.com/cpcwiki (https://www.facebook.com/cpcwiki)
I am too old for facebook ??? , i just do not see any useful information that page may or may not contain. ???
Quote from: cpc4eva on 11:14, 24 December 14
id like to think so to....... but nothing in this life is a sure thing......except life, death, taxes and more taxes....
Death? [nb]I'm working on that[/nb]
Quote from: AMSDOS on 00:09, 24 December 14
If I typed in Amstrad CPC into Google, CPCWiki is the 3rd (or 4th if you count the Images) Site to come up
Hum, when I type CPCWiki in Google (https://www.google.fr/?#q=CPCWiki) (even when not logged in), the four first results are pages on cpcwiki.eu. The first two ones are:
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CPCWiki forum - Index
CPCWiki forum - Index (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/)
CPCWiki - THE Amstrad CPC encyclopedia!
CPCWiki - THE Amstrad CPC encyclopedia! (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/)
This might have to to with search personalization, but if I launch a new firefox on a fresh account I have the same results.
Anyone can confirm ?
Here's what I get... (and no, I didn't manipulate it to show the MegaFlash page) :D
Bryce.
Quote from: cpcitor on 22:02, 05 January 15
Hum, when I type CPCWiki in Google (https://www.google.fr/?#q=CPCWiki) (even when not logged in), the four first results are pages on cpcwiki.eu. The first two ones are:
Yes that is correct, but I was talking typing in Amstrad into Google. :) Earlier this site was appearing on Page 3 or something when I just typed in Amstrad, now it seems to be coming up at the bottom of Page 1.
If I type in Amstrad+CPC, this site comes up second (after the Wikipedia page on the Amstrad CPC computer) and 3rd if you type in Amstrad CPC by itself. Annoying because a newspaper article regarding Alan Sugar titled Your Not Fired takes precedence :( With Quotation Marks "" this site fares no better than without the Quotations.
Quote from: cpcitor on 22:02, 05 January 15
Hum, when I type CPCWiki in Google (https://www.google.fr/?#q=CPCWiki) (even when not logged in), the four first results are pages on cpcwiki.eu. The first two ones are:
This might have to to with search personalization, but if I launch a new firefox on a fresh account I have the same results.
Anyone can confirm ?
It also takes into account your country and browser language. If I open a private browsing window and do a search for
amstrad cpc this is what I get (cpcwiki is on page 2):
(http://i.imgur.com/duNx09o.png)
Quote from: McKlain on 11:25, 06 January 15
It also takes into account your country and browser language. If I open a private browsing window and do a search for amstrad cpc this is what I get (cpcwiki is on page 2):
When I type "amstrad cpc" in a private browsing firefox window from France, I get CPCWiki - THE Amstrad CPC encyclopedia! (http://www.cpcwiki.eu) on page 2 (16th position from first page).
When I type "amstrad" instead, the first cpcwiki answer is CPCWiki forum - Index (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum) on page 9 (81st position from first page).
On "amstrad cpc", google.fr orders wikipedia then cpc-power, amstradtoday.com, priceminister, mo5.com, amstrad.cpc.free.fr, amstrad.eu gametronik.com, lemonde.fr, planetemu.net x2, phenixinformatique.free.fr, mondemul.net all sites written in french. The language should be enough to explain.
The good news is: cpcwiki.eu is the first non-french-language site when querying "amstrad cpc" on google.fr .
I bet if you search for DSK in France, the CPC doesn't get mentioned in the first 100 pages :D
Bryce.
P.s. I wonder why "Le Monde" is linked to Amstrad in any way???
Quote from: Bryce on 13:57, 06 January 15
I bet if you search for DSK in France, the CPC doesn't get mentioned in the first 100 pages :D
Hopeless. I haven't even tried. :laugh:
Quote from: Bryce on 13:57, 06 January 15
P.s. I wonder why "Le Monde" is linked to Amstrad in any way???
30th birthday.
L'Amstrad CPC 464 fête ses 30 ans (http://www.lemonde.fr/jeux-video/breve/2014/06/21/l-amstrad-cpc-464-fete-ses-30-ans_4442967_1616924.html)
The latest comments (AMSDOS, McKlain, cpcitor) are correct in that a.the problem is not about searching for cpcwiki (boy we'd be knee-deep in shite if cpcwiki didn't come up when looking for cpcwiki!) but for Amstrad and b.you must try doing that as anonymously as possible (I don't think even incognito tabs are 100% clean - sure, no cookie identifiers but lots of other crumbles...) (Bryce, is that screenshot from an incognito tab?).
For me, looking for Amstrad CPC in a private window gives me the site at #4 (#1 and #2 are Wikipedia in English and Greek, #3 is the YT video "20 games that defined the Amstrad CPC". Which is certainly weird, because no way that's more popular than CPCWiki, but it goes to show how Google manipulates result listings to promote videos thus skewing them. Really stupid, they could do it like they do with Images - in a separate section).
Looking for Amstrad, CPCWiki is #11. The first non-major result (Wikipedia or Amstrad PLC) is... WinAPE :) (if I switch to English CPCWiki rises to #9 on the first page).
So... Where does that leave us? Beats me. Any advice is more than welcome.
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:14, 06 January 15
Looking for Amstrad, CPCWiki is #11. The first non-major result (Wikipedia or Amstrad PLC) is... WinAPE :) (if I switch to English CPCWiki rises to #9 on the first page).
So... Where does that leave us? Beats me. Any advice is more than welcome.
What language are the results before CPCWiki ?
Google probably favors pages in language supposed to be readable by the user in the country of request.
In the case of France, the first non-french-language result when typing "amstrad CPC" is cpcwiki. It's pretty strong actually: in France cpcwiki beats
all non-french-speaking pages! Even english wikipedia or any other major site. 8)
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:14, 06 January 15
So... Where does that leave us? Beats me. Any advice is more than welcome.
Youtube video, but coming up with one might take too much time. If you have one of those Games players make one up which just highlights what's on the CPCWiki it might get some more traffic and YouTube is Linked to Google isn't it?
I'm unsure if it would work though.
Well, the Facebook page has been up for a while but I'm not seeing much participation, even from those who advocated it ;)
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:14, 06 January 15
So... Where does that leave us? Beats me. Any advice is more than welcome.
Reword "CPCWiki - THE Amstrad CPC encyclopedia" to "Amstrad CPC - The #1 CPCWiki Encyclopedia" on the Main Page??