Google ads in the forum?

[Gryzor]

Hello SyX, thanks for the nice input.


That's what I was thinking, too. I thought about Google Ads because they're the least intrusive. There are other ad schemes we could implement (rotator banners etc) but I thinkg Google Ads would introduce the least noise by far. Also, placement in the forum is quite versatile - we could fill the forum with ads, or place it only in a couple of specific positions.


That said, look at the poll above - only one in four said they'd click on them, which is very unfortunate. Ad to that the fact that a user would have to turn off their ad blocker... The opt-in option at EAB is surely nice, but of course it needs a volume that maybe EAB has and we don't.


Well, maybe we could just test it?


As an aside, I have been testing a newer host with lower cost for a while now, and, while I loved it, a month back it was well and truly hacked. so I grew weary

[SyX]

I wanted to say here, because they are working really well in EAB. They are much less little intrusive that everybody thinks, for example in EAB, there is only one ad in the main page (before the shoutbox) and in each thread only one between the "Quick Reply! and "Similar Topics".

And for the user, the only suggestion is disable the Adblock only for this site (click in the Adblock button and click in disable for cpcwiki) and the day that he enters in the forum, he clicks only in ONE of the ads that appears inside of a thread (not the main page).

Only one click/day, no more, and he can simply click with the middle button to open in other tab and when the icon in the tab signals the page has been loaded, they can close that page without even see the publicity there. And doing that task, you are helping the CPCWiki

Well, maybe we could just test it?

YES!!!

[Zoe Robinson]

As someone who has had problems with Google over AdSense in the past (I had to take them to court when they cancelled my account thanks to a prolonged clickbot attack on my YouTube channel from someone who didn't like what I'd said), I can say this for certain:


If Google finds out you're recommending people click on ads, even if you're saying "only click on one", they will cancel your account, keep any money accrued, and ban you from signing up again.


Google ads are great revenue sources, especially for high-traffic sites, but they will kick your arse to the curb at the slightest provocation, so don't make any reference to clicking on ads if you want to stay on their good side.

[Gryzor]

Oh, I know. I've worked Adsense extensively (though from the other side, as an advertiser), so there'lll be none of the "please click to keep us alive!" crap. But thanks for bringing it up


I've now set the thing up forum-wise, the code is in place and I've submitted an application to Google, when they get back we'll see...

[SyX]

Of course, and every advice is welcome. I'm not in "crying mode", neither trying to make an "ad scam"... only trying to explain how easy and painless can be to help a little to the CPCWiki

[CPCLER]

So can I completly avoid to have adds shown on the forum pages, either in front of threads or below?
And how to do that... Because I don't like commercials at all beeing shown! Also I think it's going on a slippery slope having commercials, first they are introduced in a no intrusive way.. And then suddenly there are commercials all over the place!!


Regards,
CPCLER


PS. On EAB advertisment is not limited to the top but also found on the right!? (Approximatly 25-30% of the screen i occupied by ads when the page is opened!)

I wanted to say here, because they are working really well in EAB. They are much less little intrusive that everybody thinks, for example in EAB, there is only one ad in the main page (before the shoutbox) and in each thread only one between the "Quick Reply! and "Similar Topics".

And for the user, the only suggestion is disable the Adblock only for this site (click in the Adblock button and click in disable for cpcwiki) and the day that he enters in the forum, he clicks only in ONE of the ads that appears inside of a thread (not the main page).

Only one click/day, no more, and he can simply click with the middle button to open in other tab and when the icon in the tab signals the page has been loaded, they can close that page without even see the publicity there. And doing that task, you are helping the CPCWiki
YES!!!

[Bryce]

If that blank post is a trial, and the reason why the forum is currently taking around a minute to load each page, then it has failed.

Bryce.

[SyX]

PS. On EAB advertisment is not limited to the top but also found on the right!? (Approximatly 25-30% of the screen i occupied by ads when the page is opened!)

I haven't never found that, only top in main and down in thread, any link???

[Gryzor]

There are a couple of placeholders, yes, but no blank posts. And since those placeholders do not appear on every page then it hasn't failed :p You doomsayer! (and they don't poll any comment anyway).


Yes, there are a few inconsistent performance issues since yesterday, nothing to do with ads.

[Gryzor]

Well, as you can see, I have implemented ads in the forum. Expect a full update in a couple of days - let's see how it goes.


Oh, and thanks for the support!

[Devilmarkus]

I just want to criticize it too much but:

- The vote says "no" (when it would be right done, there are 19 no, 13 neutral and 11 pro votes)
- Do you really think, that you can earn enough money by these ads? What, if nobody clicks them?
- More javascript here in the code than before...
- If you put ads in here, couldn't them be more theme related? (Computer stuff, hardware ads) I don't need any rheumatism pillow, crochet blankets or gratis v-backups.

[Gryzor]

Why, thanks so much for your positivity! Much appreciated


-The vote actually says 'yes', but it's only a guide anyway.
-Who knows. That's the purpose of TESTING, man.
-Wow, a single small js on Google's servers running on the home page. Wow.
-I'm actually looking into that. I hate all those Latvian Brides ads...

[Devilmarkus]

-I'm actually looking into that. I hate all those Latvian Brides ads...

Latvian Brides? Where? 

For me answer #2 says "yes you can do that, I dont care, because I don't click them" = neutral

[Gryzor]

In Latvia, I would take it

(btw, if we accept that Google is actually tracking us and targetting relevant ads, I'd say... naughty naughty )

[Bryce]

Could they at least include a few Latvian bride pictures with a CPC in the background? Or playing with a Joystick

Bryce.

[Devilmarkus]

Could they at least include a few Latvian bride pictures with a CPC in the background? Or playing with a Joystick

When you have enough money, they maybe play with your... ehem... joystick

[Bryce]

Your head is filled with filth! I really meant a joystick

Bryce.

[Devilmarkus]

I see... You mean like this?

Spoiler: ShowHide

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[Bryce]

I've clicked on it 20 times, but nothing happens

Bryce.

[Devilmarkus]

Bad luck then for you...
For me it works

And no, it's no empty spoiler!

[steve]

I am pleased to report that the adblocker I installed to watch youtube videos also works with this site as I cannot see any ads, not even spaces where the ads used to be.

[Gryzor]

@Bryce: Unfortunately (?) since I've only allowed text ads and not display (banner/image) ads, the best you could see would be descriptions like "Latvian brides jiggling their JY-2s!" or, "Asian Brides and their analogue joysticks!" (always kinky, those Asians).


Strangely, the only category Adsense lets me block is... "Birth control". Seriously. That's my only choice! So, I don't know, maybe it's related - "get a foreign bride, but be careful-or not". But I can still block them by URL.


@Steve: sure, ad blockers hide the whole element. I had blocked ads in my hosts file, bulletproof! But, I was going to probably implement something so that donors wouldn't see them anyway.

[CPCLER]

Hi There
Well it's not to bad with that tiny add..
But I agree with Devilmarkus I understand the pool result the same way!!

Nah, absolutely not (No)
 
Why not, but I wouldn't click on them (Neutral)

Sure, and I'll click on them too, every now and then. (Yes)

Why have a pool if not to respect the result!

/CPCLER

I just want to criticize it too much but:

- The vote says "no" (when it would be right done, there are 19 no, 13 neutral and 11 pro votes)
- Do you really think, that you can earn enough money by these ads? What, if nobody clicks them?
- More javascript here in the code than before...
- If you put ads in here, couldn't them be more theme related? (Computer stuff, hardware ads) I don't need any rheumatism pillow, crochet blankets or gratis v-backups.

[Gryzor]

Well, the middle option is not actually that neutral, I see it as positive. The reason I put it as an option was to judge the response to the ad presence in terms of revenue.


As I said, the poll it of an advisory nature, not as an election process over the issue; the main reasoning behind it being, someone who doesn't like ads can always disable them. Heck, there's even the possibility of adding users to an opt-out group

Oh, and yes, I'm trying to make them ads as small and unobtrusive as possible. You may notice different placements and types of ads as I'm experimenting, but the thing is, I don't like them much myself either, so they have to be small.

[SyX]

Great work Gryzor!!! I have disabled adblock for the forum already and i sincerily i hope that it can be a little help to the maintain of CPCWiki

Of course, I will be good disabling the ads for the fantastic people has donated to the forum