Shoutbox or not?

[Gryzor]

What it says above.


By the way, the paid version is this: SMFPacks Shoutbox Pro . If people think the features are good, we've had enough donations to get it

[robcfg]

I don't mind having the shoutbox, but honestly I won't be using it at all.

[Gryzor]

"Don't care" option added

[tastefulmrship]

Well, as a source of interesting titbits (by others than me, I may add!) and a place to vent live demoparty issues (I'm looking at you; 4k and 8k PC demo compos), I would (unsurprisingly) prefer that the ShoutBox remains.

I realise this is a games and hardware biased forum and I am nothing more than a "singleton in a crowd", but there's really nothing other than my music releases that I'm (personally) interested in, here. Especially as the CPC demoscene is very secretive and (almost) non-existant (now that P'n'P has shut down); the CPC needs something to keep the whole demo-scene alive!

Also. I'd prefer not to waste the database with numerous demoparty threads that will be dominated by @MaV, @rexbeng and myself... and sometimes @Grim! ^_^

[EgoTrip]

If the shoutbox went down on 21st September and it comes back to life 3 days later on the 24th, then it will be the jesus of shoutboxes.

I'm personally not bothered about it either way.

[Gryzor]

It's still a tie

[Bryce]

It's still a tie

Then let me vote twice

Bryce.

[Gryzor]

5-4.

[Shaun M. Neary]

Voted no on this one.
In theory it's a good idea, but in practice, it clutters up the forums front page. There's just not enough people using it to justify it's remaining.


That and many people confuse it for a search engine.


Now that vote could be easily overturned to a yes if there was an option to place it at the bottom of the forum instead with the sounds disabled by default. That would be a better solution.

[Gryzor]

But... the shoutbox can be collapsed so it only takes up one line...

[TotO]

Actual results look like "shoot box"! 

[Gryzor]

5-6!

[TotO]

haha...
In this case, it miss the second No option: "I don't want my funds go to the pay version"

[Gryzor]

That would be either No or Yes.

[TotO]

False, because you add the two yes choice against only one no choice. 
(it is oriented to have more YES than NO ... Logicaly you said right, but peoples are not logical)

[Gryzor]

What you say is not valid; yes, I know all about bias with multiple questions in polls, but in this case it is not so. It just boils down to yes, no, I don't care. What, do you want me to add a "No, the paid option"?

[Shaun M. Neary]

But... the shoutbox can be collapsed so it only takes up one line...

Yeah but that's a pain when 1) You're on multiple devices, I work with several different machines and the settings aren't tied to the user, and 2) occasionally I get auto logged out and when I log back in there, it is again. I just think it's a lot less invasive down the bottom rather than up the top.

[TotO]

No, I don't want because it is a biased choice. 

What you say is not valid; yes, I know all about bias with multiple questions in polls, but in this case it is not so. It just boils down to yes, no, I don't care. What, do you want me to add a "No, the paid option"?

[mr_lou]

I still don't understand why we don't just add a button to IRC. There are a few CPC IRC channels already that we can just lead visitors to if we're too lazy to create our own.

Then we'll also be ready for when the first CPC IRC client has been coded. 

[Gryzor]

Why would we do that? Ok, I could maybe add a link to the top bar to an irc server/channel... but then we're just doing a links collection

[mr_lou]

Why would we do that? Ok, I could maybe add a link to the top bar to an irc server/channel... but then we're just doing a links collection

We could embed a javascript client, like this: IndieGameMusic.com - The Music Resource For The Indie Game Developer

[Gryzor]

Sure, that would be just another page on the server, and I bet it wouldn't be used at all...

[mr_lou]

Sure, that would be just another page on the server, and I bet it wouldn't be used at all...

Well, it would (hopefully) satisfy the few who wants a shoutbox, while removing it from the frontpage, and offer a place on CPCwiki to connect to the CPC IRC channel that'll probably be used more when the first CPC IRC client has been created. It really is a very small page to create, hardly takes up any space. I don't see what the problem is.

[Gryzor]

Just that it would not be used. Anyone can use IRC anywhere, the issue is not having a chat room somewhere, no matter what, but something integrated. Whether that page was on the cpcwiki server or anywhere else on the web at all would make no difference from the moment it's not integrated...

[Shaun M. Neary]

Just that it would not be used. Anyone can use IRC anywhere, the issue is not having a chat room somewhere, no matter what, but something integrated. Whether that page was on the cpcwiki server or anywhere else on the web at all would make no difference from the moment it's not integrated...

IRC?! Great Scott, Marty, back that DeLorean up, we need to reach 88mph!


Seriously who uses IRC today? the same people who listen to Long Wave radio? In the age of the likes of Google Hangouts, Facebook group chats and Skype messaging amongst others, I'm shocked that IRC still exists. There's probably still ICQ clingers on out there too...