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Title: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 11:52, 30 August 11
Quickly converted from the youtube animation  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 12:16, 30 August 11
Excellent!  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 12:28, 30 August 11
Someone, add the music XD
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 12:40, 30 August 11
I spy a demo competition!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 13:26, 30 August 11
Quote from: mcklain on 12:28, 30 August 11
Someone, add the music XD

He he, I will try to do that  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: SyX on 15:20, 30 August 11
Great Job!!! :D

Don't forget take a look to the Dragon version (http://www.6809.org.uk/dragon/demo/#nyan), include the source and looks and sound really great, too  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 15:40, 30 August 11
This would be really sweet to annoy the significant other...

The tune is spot-on. The animation is really well done, but it kinda stumbles at the end of the loop?

Bring the two together!!!

PS hey, really vivid colours, the Dragon... must be the mushrooms in Wales!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 19:18, 30 August 11
Small update  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 19:29, 30 August 11
Nice!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 19:31, 30 August 11
Supercool!  :laugh:

2 things:

-the loop doesn't work properly (I don't know why). Would it be easier to use the arkos player instead of an YM file? (the music file would be smaller also)
-to make it more like the real thing the cat shouldn't show until the end of the intro (when the infinite loop starts). Using the arkos player you can send synchro messages to your program by including some commands in the music file. Also you could use that time to show some credits.

And... would this work on a 464?  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 19:37, 30 August 11
Yes, I think it will be more easy to do such things with arkos player.


And yes, it works on 464, the size is 20ko of uncompressed datas :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 19:50, 30 August 11
Cool  ;D

Wich address do I have to put in the bin exporter? 4000 is the default one.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: SyX on 20:03, 30 August 11
Superb!!!  :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:37, 30 August 11
Excellent!
This beats every demo before!!!

Edit: Who puts it on pouet.net?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 21:40, 30 August 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 21:37, 30 August 11
Excellent!
This beats every demo before!!!

Edit: Who puts it on pouet.net?

We should wait till it's spot on  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: remax on 22:28, 30 August 11
wonderful  :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 06:09, 31 August 11
Quote from: McKlain on 19:50, 30 August 11
Cool  ;D

Wich address do I have to put in the bin exporter? 4000 is the default one.

The start address is #2000

But this is only a first test, if you send me the  compiled starkos song, I can do better ;-)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 09:25, 31 August 11
You mean this? I've exported it with start address #2000.

I've put a digisample command (D01) on the start of the first pattern after the intro, I think that you can use that to do the synchro.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 10:05, 31 August 11
Quote from: McKlain on 09:25, 31 August 11
You mean this? I've exported it with start address #2000.

I've put a digisample command (D01) on the start of the first pattern after the intro, I think that you can use that to do the synchro.

Ok, I will do the next "release" with that ;-)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 10:07, 31 August 11
I got a little confused when you mentioned starkos, as I use arkos in windows  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 18:27, 31 August 11
This could need more pony to get  it 20% cooler..
;)
and Brony friendly.



Anyway.

Nice but i would suggest some Colour/inks changes... to get a more accurate experience perhaps.

Also try to get it a little bit smoother... some the frames could be a byte more accurate...(pun)
Is it double buffered ?

have a look at the mockup there.

You may even have to reassign inks/recode Garphic Datas...


just compare the edited version to the unmodified...

The and "Green" parts of the rainbow  (So also "SkyBlue" and Pastel Yellow) lack the ondulation effect.

Also the "pixelisation" tend to have some missing black pixels (should I say characters ?) on some frames....


but it is a jolly good idea, I was thinking about this recently... we even talked about this on another thread if I remember correctly..


you unedited version seem to use 12 inks...

My edited version is perhaps +2 additionnal inks.

=turn the Poptart "pink" (47h) dots  into bright magenta (4Dh)

=the "Pastel Yellow" (43h or 49h) on the rainbow into Bright Yellow (4Ah)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 19:38, 31 August 11
The CPC version look best by far :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 06:27, 01 September 11
The Pony is kewl! Anyone up to putting them both in the same program? Then the CPC would be leagues ahead - the ueber Nyan demo! :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 06:31, 01 September 11
@MachDeath : Thanks, I will apply your coulor changes and some "pixels alignment" in the next (final ?) release.  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 10:02, 01 September 11
This has to be one of the coolest CPC releases for a while.


Would love to see it on a C64 hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 10:05, 01 September 11
The Plus/4 version is not bad at all

Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 10:09, 01 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 10:05, 01 September 11
The Plus/4 version is not bad at all


Sh*t.  You're right.  :o
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 10:22, 01 September 11
Even the Dragon 64 version uses the nyan sample, I'm starting to get worried  :laugh:

Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 12:08, 01 September 11
Final release ?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 12:39, 01 September 11
QuoteWould love to see it on a C64 hahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>Iplying C64 can actually diplay the rainbow with less than 2 grey shades inside.

:D

Quote@MachDeath : Thanks, I will apply your coulor changes and some "pixels alignment" in the next (final ?) release.
No blems my friend... Capitano Obvious, Lord of the Obvious...
Just there to point to the obvious... :P

But also to be fair, I told you that but only tested it on Emulator, don't know if this goes better on Real Hardware... but i don't think such Demo is that  Emulator unFriendly...


so I will have a look at the "pre-beta-released-final version 0.99999991 alpha PLUS"...



Post Edit :

Ok :
==this lags a bit on my emulator...
==the Yellow part on the Rainbow is 1 "pixels" (2x4) too thin vertically... (la bande est plus fine que les autres bandes)
==Also it is still in pastel Yellow while "medium yellow" would perhaps be better.


Er... i continue uin french because I want to be understood by you...

Oui donc, la bande jaune est plus fine, ce qui semble poser le probème... esque ta pixélistation est vraimment "accurate" ?
Et aussi tu devrais la passer en jaune "moyen" et non jaune "pastel"...

Mais ça ajoute de la tuile en fait...

Après c'est vrai que ça fait quand même de grosses surface de couleur a changer... c'est pas forcément si léger que ça je suppose...


Also, do you aim at "arcade perfect" port of some minor differance are of no importance ?

I mean the face is not exactly the same (missing the nose... one "pixel" not at the proper side of the mouth) and the poptart also misses one "sugar dot"...

Perhaps a whole line is missing ?

This looks like it is the case : a "column" and a line are missing so the head is shorter and the poptart to misses one raw and one line...

This explain why the rainbow simply can't match.


There a "fixed" version of the graphics.


Désolé pour le boulot en plus... ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 12:42, 01 September 11
I just transfered it to tape and tested it on my 464. It works perfect  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 12:51, 01 September 11
Quote from: demoniak on 12:08, 01 September 11
Final release ?


Yay!


For the classic CPC anyway. 


Now we need a Plus version with digidrums :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 12:54, 01 September 11
Quote from: redbox on 12:51, 01 September 11

Yay!


For the classic CPC anyway. 


Now we need a Plus version with digidrums :)

Digidrums can be done on the CPC too, for the plus we should use digitracker and the nyan nyan sample  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 12:55, 01 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 12:54, 01 September 11
Digidrums can be done on the CPC too, for the plus we should use digitracker and the nyan nyan sample  ;D


Not without a mahooosive overhead (I was thinking DMA), but yeah the sample would also be nice.


Actually, I do really like the AY tune version though, feels so Arnold!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 13:36, 01 September 11
QuoteYay!

For the classic CPC anyway. 

Now we need a Plus version with digidrums
I'm afraid not yet...
As I pointed again, the pixelisation is not yet "accurate and faithfull", a shame as the Commodore or Dragon version are... :o :-[


Well, Plus version can be even more Colour accurate...
The sky is not CPC palette friendly... (special grey-blue sort...) and the border of the Poptart is not pastelYellow but more some pastelpink/pastelorange...


Also yep, hardScroll, perhaps even DMA channels...

but this may need a shitton of extra complete rework on the code to take those PLUS feature into account...


QuoteActually, I do really like the AY tune version though, feels so Arnold!
I can just aggree...
This AY version completely roxxx !

Quote
The Pony is kewl! Anyone up to putting them both in the same program? Then the CPC would be leagues ahead - the ueber Nyan demo!
Well ,this pony would need extra work on the colours (sure CPC old can't get the exact same...) and having both Cat and RainbowDash (Pony) on the same screen may need more than the normal 16 inks...


Also, why not then try this in smaller pixels...

I mean 1x2 square Mode0 pixels... this would work too, with even less surface to modify per frames...
Perhaps faster or even PLUS Hardsprites friendly...

but hey, let's not be complete Pricks too...
Easier to ask for, harder to do it.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 13:40, 01 September 11
Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 13:56, 01 September 11
Updated  :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 14:09, 01 September 11
Quote from: demoniak on 13:56, 01 September 11
Updated  :D


In what way?!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 14:11, 01 September 11
Cat has a nose, the yelow on the rainbow trail is now in medium yellow, and a new spot is added on the poptart...

from what i saw...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:12, 01 September 11
Oh I see...  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 14:12, 01 September 11
Really cool!
[cpc=http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2640.0;attach=2058,NYANCAT,1]CPC6128[/cpc]
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: SyX on 16:26, 01 September 11
Looks and sound great in the real machine!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 17:49, 01 September 11
Yeah, I love the tune even not sampled... really dig it. Must rip for ringtone... :D

The Plus/4 version is nice, but of course it just can't have a decent palette! Soooo washed out!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 18:19, 01 September 11
I've touched the drum pattern a bit and made the sounds a bit less noisy. Take a look, demoniak.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 18:38, 01 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 18:19, 01 September 11
I've touched the drum pattern a bit and made the sounds a bit less noisy. Take a look, demoniak.

Here is the result :
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 18:44, 01 September 11
(http://www.pharfruminsain.com/graphics/images/free-MrBurnsExcellent.gif)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: SyX on 19:53, 01 September 11
I can confirm that  ;D

McKlain no se te olvide anunciarlo en el foro cuando esté la versión definitiva ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 20:02, 01 September 11
Yeah!

Hey, anyone felt the irony when typing "cat"? :D

Also, how about going overscan? :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 20:36, 01 September 11
QuoteHey, anyone felt the irony when typing "cat"?
I did...

This would need a cat'art to tell :

"no guy, yo must type [run"Nyancat] instead of simply [Cat] !"


Also fun that you ask "run, Nyancat !" and yep, the nyancat then runs...through freaking space


added Joke dimension. ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 08:14, 02 September 11
Heheh good idea about catart... :) :) :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 13:25, 02 September 11
Quote from: MacDeath on 20:36, 01 September 11
This would need a cat'art to tell :

"no guy, yo must type [run"Nyancat] instead of simply [Cat] !"

Also fun that you ask "run, Nyancat !" and yep, the nyancat then runs...through freaking space
How about creating a NYANCAT ROM, so you'd only need to type;

|NYANCAT
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 13:31, 02 September 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 13:25, 02 September 11
How about creating a NYANCAT ROM, so you'd only need to type;
|NYANCAT


Exactly what I was thinking - the first ROM demo!


|CAT would be better (not used on traditional CPC).
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: robcfg on 13:34, 02 September 11
And how about modifying the catalog track on the disk so when you type cat, it executes the demo.  ;D


Ahhhh, the irony,,,,  :P
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 13:34, 02 September 11
just add |cat, |nyan and |nyancat  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 14:09, 02 September 11
So, before it's uploaded to POUET, do you reckon there should be the following;

A .CDT version.
A .DSK version. (with added cat art)
A .ROM version. (|CAT, |NYAN, |NYANCAT)
A CPC+ version. (in a .CDT file & part of the above .DSK & ROM)

... all in one happy .zip file? Worth a 'thumbs-up', I'd say!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:13, 02 September 11
Covering all bases, uh?  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 14:54, 02 September 11
Nyancat on CDT:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:14, 02 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus© on 14:54, 02 September 11
Nyancat on CDT:

... and so it begins.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 17:34, 02 September 11
Quote from: redbox on 13:31, 02 September 11

Exactly what I was thinking - the first ROM demo!


|CAT would be better (not used on traditional CPC).
But used by Maxam!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: arnoldemu on 17:38, 02 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus© on 14:54, 02 September 11
Nyancat on CDT:

Does it have a loading screen?

I'm thinking like Brian Bloodaxe, where it animates while loading ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 17:47, 02 September 11
This will become the very next Megademo  :laugh:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Bryce on 19:55, 02 September 11
Quote from: TFM/FS on 17:34, 02 September 11
But used by Maxam!

Maxam has Nyan Cat integrated, Cool!! Is it just on V1.5 or on the other versions too? :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 19:56, 02 September 11
Yeah but is called Maxamcat...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 20:35, 02 September 11
Quote from: Bryce on 19:55, 02 September 11
Maxam has Nyan Cat integrated, Cool!! Is it just on V1.5 or on the other versions too? :D

Bryce.
Oh, all versions have it. The well known Arkos... eh Arnor Quality ;-)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 22:02, 02 September 11
I just loaded up the cdt, much to my company's distress. It'd be great if it could draw a loading screen in the traditional way, and that screen would be the first frame of the loop so that when it stops loading it'd just start animating ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 22:45, 02 September 11
The thing is that the original nyan cat video starts with a blank screen until the intro part of the music ends and then the animation kicks in. We have to be faithful to the original  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 16:11, 03 September 11
Well, in our case I think it'd be a plus point... :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 13:37, 06 September 11
I'll just leave this here... nothing important, please move along!
(apologies to the original coders, Demoniak & McKlain)



EDIT: DANG IT! The 'RUN"NYANCAT was at row 24, instead of row 25! Attached version 4.1, as it were.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 13:39, 06 September 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 13:37, 06 September 11
I'll just leave this here... nothing important, please move along!
(apologies to the original coders, Demoniak & McKlain)

Nice CAT art :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 13:45, 06 September 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 13:37, 06 September 11
I'll just leave this here... nothing important, please move along!
(apologies to the original coders, Demoniak & McKlain)

Totally agree with Markus ! 
Great job !
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 14:00, 06 September 11
Thanks, guys!

It's been ages since I created CATart & completely forgot how annoying it is to do!
Major kudos to anyone who releases a demo/game/app with CATart! Muchos kudos from me!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:19, 06 September 11
Awesome!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 20:27, 06 September 11
Quote from: arnoldemu on 17:38, 02 September 11
Does it have a loading screen?

I'm thinking like Brian Bloodaxe, where it animates while loading ;)
Funny you should mention BRIAN BLOODAXE.... (maybe too much BRIAN BLOODAXE!)
(attached)



EDIT: Can someone please .CDT these files? I can't get DSK2CDT to work and WinAPE doesn't seem to want to do anything. The files loading order is; NYANCAT CPC (known as NYANCAT.BAS on .dsk), HIPPO, NYANCAT (the NYANCAT.BIN file). Thanks muchly!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:21, 06 September 11
Here you go:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:50, 06 September 11
Also a headerless version, too: (Slightly manipulated BASIC file including binaries)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 06:25, 07 September 11
Top stuff, thanks!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 07:38, 07 September 11
Heheheh, great art indeed. Now it's almost complete :)



Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: demoniak on 07:53, 07 September 11
To McKlain & Tastefulmrship :
   Can I distribute the last version (With better music and cat art) ?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 07:57, 07 September 11
Go go!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 08:21, 07 September 11
You don't need my permission; release away! ^_^
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 10:02, 07 September 11
Is there a possibility to fix the CAT-art for CPC 464 rom's, too?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 10:10, 07 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 10:02, 07 September 11
Is there a possibility to fix the CAT-art for CPC 464 rom's, too?

How does the 464 ROM differ from 6128?
I never used my DDI-1 on a 464 so I don't know, it was always my 2nd drive on the 6128.




EDIT: Oooops, it's fecked, alright!

EDIT2: I've just checked MIDLINE PROCESS & BLOC-US on 464 ROM and their CATart is also messed-up. I'll try and look into it, but it might not be fixable! (At least, not by me!)

EDIT3: The only CATart I can find that works on BASIC 1.0 is ULTIMATE FACEHUGGER MEGADEMO and that's |CPM!

EDIT4: Even ORION PRIME's superb CATart fails... can someone check if this happens on real hardware or is it another emulator glitch?

EDIT5: CATart is MODE specific as well! MODE 1 displays the CATalogue in 2 columns, MODE 2 in 4, MODE 0 in 1! This effects the order in which the files are displayed, and so potentially messing up the art entirely! I can see why this is a dying artform!

EDIT6: From Les Sucres en Morceaux website;

464 VS 6128
Il faut croire que le ciel n'est pas clément, puisque les inventeur de CPC nous ont caché des petites différences de compatibilité entre mes 464 et les 6128... en fait, assez peu de CATalogues fonctionnent également sur 464. La principale raison est que l'instruction &15 qui sert à interdire tout affichage ne parvient pas à interdire le retour chariot du curseur en fin de ligne sur le 464. Il est donc particulièrement délicat de faire un CAT en mode séquentiel dans ces conditions, puisqu'on ne sait plus à quelle instruction se vouer. Voir notamment la détection de CPC 464 / 6128 du CAT de la ClimaxG

Autre différence, mineure cette fois : si vous activez le mode transparent en cours de CAT, le système ne remettra pas le mode opaque comme le fait le 6128, au moment du retour au basic.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:55, 07 September 11
Anyone wants a ROM?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 21:01, 07 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:55, 07 September 11
Anyone wants a ROM?
Holy fecking hell! Awesome!
Are you going to add the |CAT and |NYAN commands that redbox and McKlain suggested, too?


All we need now is the CPC+ version and I think we're there!
Way too much meme for my sandwich!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:02, 07 September 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 21:01, 07 September 11
Holy fecking hell! Awesome!
Are you going to add the |CAT and |NYAN commands, too?


Well I'll try.... Made the rom with Softbrenner, dunno if its possible to add more commands... Perhaps |CAT and thats it... it always asks for a binary when I add a RSX command...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:10, 07 September 11
2 commands work now:
|NYANCAT or |CAT
More are not possible with Softbrenner, sorry...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:16, 07 September 11
Btw: Compared to the original demo:
Do you think its possible to produce the "nyan" sample with digidrums?
THIS would be really awesome!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 21:50, 07 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 21:10, 07 September 11
2 commands work now:
|NYANCAT or |CAT
More are not possible with Softbrenner, sorry...
Add a MODE command! If you scroll the screen, it get's screwed up. Just positive feedback :-)))
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 22:48, 07 September 11
I think that there is no way to modify the pitch of the digidrums just using arkos (I'm not sure). To use the nyan sample we should need to use digitrakker or something like that. Remember that in normal CPCs that takes quite some cpu resources.

Better said, in arkos you can only trigger the digisamples, you can't indicate any sort of volume, lenght or anything else.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 01:45, 08 September 11
Hey McKlain: I really like your Sound!!!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 08:10, 08 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:55, 07 September 11
Anyone wants a ROM?

YES! THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 08:54, 08 September 11
Quote from: TFM/FS on 01:45, 08 September 11
Hey McKlain: I really like your Sound!!!

Thank you sir  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 12:36, 09 September 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 10:02, 07 September 11
Is there a possibility to fix the CAT-art for CPC 464 rom's, too?
I believe this CATart will work on CPC464 & CPC6128. However, it looks slightly different and I have had to capture the 'Ready' prompt in a WINDOW rather than just above the RUN"NYANCAT" command. This is because the CPC464 ROM continues to print the CR control code even through a VDU DISABLE command. Sorry!
(or, you can forget 464 compatibility and keep the olde version... OR, you can remove the CATart completely and just have the demo)

Other than that, it's the same NYANCAT anim to chip-music!



EDIT: I almost forgot; when the CPC+ version is done, someone should create a CARTRIDGE version of it... (is that the same as a ROM version?)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:43, 09 September 11
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 11:40, 13 September 11
The BBC Micro now has NyanCat... not as good as yours, but uses samples.

(Live footage from SUNRISE 2011)
Sunrise 2011 - Oldschool Demo - Beebnyan (Live footage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmEB-DpZGQ#ws)


POUET.NET link;
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=57734 (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=57734)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 12:10, 13 September 11
That video was ruined by the noisy audience so badly that I could not hear any sampled sounds.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:04, 13 September 11
To me it sounds like they sampled the full song, wich you can reduce to just 2 loops without the intro part (or maybe a few more loops if you want to reduce the size of the samples).
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: SyX on 16:29, 13 September 11
I prefer your AY version McKlain  ;)

And after the CPC version, i like the Atari 2600 version, too :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 06:43, 14 September 11
The Beeb version is awful - what the fark are these colours? Also the sampled tune sounds really awful.

The 2600 does an admirable effort but reveals how off-key it is :D

I noticed everyone is changing the name - Nyantari, BeebNyan... What about a 'special' name for our own version?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Executioner on 07:07, 14 September 11
Looks like the BBC version uses Teletext mode. Very few screen bytes to update and leaves plenty of time to play the samples. WI'm sure we could manage an 8kHz sample in the CPC version if we tried.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 09:11, 14 September 11
Quote from: Executioner on 07:07, 14 September 11
I'm sure we could manage an 8kHz sample in the CPC version if we tried.

Yeah, but using the AY tune adds to the "I like AY better than SID" debate.

And the AY always wins.  ;)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 09:20, 14 September 11
Guys, don't kill me but I like both soundchips the same XD

In fact I would like to make some music on the sid, but the current trackers are less than user-friendly.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Executioner on 14:14, 14 September 11
I like the AY tune too. It would be a good challenge to see if it could be done and still manage all the graphics updates in the alternate scan lines. (ie. 7.8kHz sound is one sample every two scan lines). Of course the Plus version would be easy.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:21, 14 September 11
Thank you guys. To be honest I made it cause I couldn't find a "proper" and faithful 8 bits version on youtube before, just a bunch of fake 8bit tunes made using FL Studio and programs like that with "8bits" sound patches.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 14:32, 14 September 11
I once found a funny speech synthesizer.
Nowadays it's old, perhaps Windows 7 users cant open the txt files with it...
(But they can copy-paste the contents of a text file into the editor)

It's easy to produce songs with it...
So perhaps this is helpful to generate a Nyan-Sample?
http://cpc-live.com/speech_song/ (http://cpc-live.com/speech_song/)

I'll attach the program + it's examples here:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:34, 14 September 11
In terms of sound I'm a bit of a purist. I wouldn't use anything that doesn't sound like the original nyan  ;D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 15:05, 14 September 11
Nice!
Someone published the lyrics!
http://www.karaoke-lyrics.net/lyrics/nyan-cat/nyan-cat-232423 (http://www.karaoke-lyrics.net/lyrics/nyan-cat/nyan-cat-232423)

Epic!!! :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 15:08, 14 September 11
Those lyrics aren't acurate  :P
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 15:18, 14 September 11
And here you can see McKlain working @ the song:

Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 15:21, 14 September 11
Just trying to get the lyrics right, don't be too hard on me  :P
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 15:43, 14 September 11
Did he actually count the "nyan" in it? :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 19:04, 14 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 14:34, 14 September 11
In terms of sound I'm a bit of a purist. I wouldn't use anything that doesn't sound like the original nyan  ;D
Right! I wouldn't have it any other way :-D

If I would have time, I would make a stupid game out of it *hehehehe*

Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 07:11, 15 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 14:34, 14 September 11
In terms of sound I'm a bit of a purist. I wouldn't use anything that doesn't sound like the original nyan  ;D

Maybe we should have sampled music for the CPC+ 'remastered' version, but the standard CPC version should still have the AY music. It's a brilliant track, it would be a shame to waste it.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 12:00, 15 September 11
I'd love a combination of the lovely YM tune plus the "Nyan" sample. This would be the best IMO...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 12:51, 15 September 11
Can the plus play samples and AY channels at the same time?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 13:12, 15 September 11
Quote from: steve on 12:51, 15 September 11
Can the plus play samples and AY channels at the same time?


Well the normal CPC can do this (e.g. digidrums), but it takes almost all of the frame time.


With the Plus you can use DMA which removes this overhead, but I haven't been able to find any source code examples anywhere.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 13:28, 15 September 11
The AY chip can reproduce 4 bit samples but each channel of samples use an AY sound channel, so whether samples or AY sound, you are limited to 3 channels, (I think), this should also apply to the plus unless it's sample hardware is separate from it's AY hardware.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 13:35, 15 September 11
Quote from: steve on 13:28, 15 September 11
The AY chip can reproduce 4 bit samples but each channel of samples use an AY sound channel, so whether samples or AY sound, you are limited to 3 channels, (I think), this should also apply to the plus unless it's sample hardware is separate from it's AY hardware.

Well, yes - you can get 8-bit but it would need some seriously tight code.

I thought you were proposing a combination of AY and samples - best way to do this is to have all 3 channels playing AY stuff and then when you want to trigger a sample, do it on one of the channels and cancel the rest of the sound playing on that channel.

It's all possible on Arkos tracker etc and there are even some examples.  The only example I haven't seen is for playing samples via the Plus's DMA - infact, the only sound DMA example I've seen is the test routine from the Arnold V Diagnostic cartridge.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Bryce on 13:37, 15 September 11
The Amdrum / Digiblaster samples don't use the AY at all, so it is possible to have 4 channels using one of these plus the 3 AY channels. But as mentioned above, feeding the samples to the D/A converter uses up almost the entire CPU time.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 13:46, 15 September 11
Quote from: redbox on 13:35, 15 September 11

I thought you were proposing a combination of AY and samples

Not me.....
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 07:11, 15 September 11

Maybe we should have sampled music for the CPC+ 'remastered' version, but the standard CPC version should still have the AY music. It's a brilliant track, it would be a shame to waste it.


Quote from: Gryzor on 12:00, 15 September 11
I'd love a combination of the lovely YM tune plus the "Nyan" sample. This would be the best IMO...

.....I was just asking if it was possible.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: redbox on 15:01, 15 September 11
Quote from: steve on 12:51, 15 September 11
Can the plus play samples and AY channels at the same time?

Quote from: redbox on 13:35, 15 September 11
I thought you were proposing a combination of AY and samples

Quote from: steve on 13:46, 15 September 11
Not me.....
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 15:53, 15 September 11
no Gryzor and tastefulmrship were the origin of my question.

If the plus cannot play samples and 3 sound channels simultaneously without additional hardware , then that is the end of it.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:20, 15 September 11
Quote from: steve on 15:53, 15 September 11
If the plus cannot play samples and 3 sound channels simultaneously without additional hardware , then that is the end of it.
Ahh! I was under the impression people were considering having 100% sampled music for the CPC+ version and keep McKlain's AY masterpiece for the standard CPC version.

Also... the actual NYAN track fits in 2 channels anyway (and downloadable as piano sheet music (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yrj4nWsOSMcacj0wdMwMhw?feat=directlink)); a bass-line and the (a)NYAN tune section. Surely there's no reason why we couldn't have AY bassline & drums over sampled NYAN... but if you're gonna do that, why not have all 3 channels running samples? Hence considering it for the CPC+ rather than standard CPC. And it gives the CPC+ version a different style!

Is anyone actually doing a CPC+ version? I guess that's an important question. If not, this discussion is moot!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 19:45, 15 September 11
Somehow I stopped receiving updates on this topic. Bummer  :P

The nyan track is quite simple (drums+bass+nyan voice+a synth also playing the nyan melody in the background). The main problem is reproducing or finding a proper "nyan" sample, as the song avalaible to download in 2 tracks is the first version made with a vocaloid singing, and the later "famous" one is made with a freeware program (a vocaloid clone) called "utau" wich is only avalaible in japanese and is fricking hard to use. The "nyan" sounds quite different on the second version, and a lot more realistic. And is the soul of the song, also.

Another posibility is just cutting the nyan song in a few loops and playing them in order. I think that you can have the full songs in 4 different loops to save space.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:41, 15 September 11
Quote from: McKlain on 19:45, 15 September 11Somehow I stopped receiving updates on this topic. Bummer  :P

Off-Topic: ShowHide
Yes, me, too, I also don't recieve any forum mails!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 17:44, 16 September 11
Yup, mailer seems out of order... :(
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 14:45, 20 September 11
Ok, this is getting ridiculous :D

[UT3] Nyan Cat Deemer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-qfcfnsBw#ws)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 14:56, 20 September 11
I do get some mails from time to time, but something is wrong, definitely.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 14:58, 20 September 11
I think the problem has been resolved, I'm getting all notifications now.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 07:49, 21 September 11
Right, NyanCatari released, video here: http://dhs.nu/video.php?ID=377 (http://dhs.nu/video.php?ID=377) . It's got a few extra bells and whistles, but it looks and sounds perfect :)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 08:06, 21 September 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 07:49, 21 September 11
Right, NyanCatari released, video here: http://dhs.nu/video.php?ID=377 (http://dhs.nu/video.php?ID=377) . It's got a few extra bells and whistles, but it looks and sounds perfect :)


The music is the remixed track sampled. I was expecting some pokey magic :P
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 08:07, 21 September 11
No pokey in the ST!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 08:14, 21 September 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:07, 21 September 11
No pokey in the ST!


I thought  that it was for the 8bit ataris  :laugh:


If it's running on the ST, well. It's not surprising.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: steve on 09:26, 21 September 11
Who can I sue for the brain damage caused by not being able to get this bloody tune out of my head? >:(
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Bryce on 09:29, 21 September 11
Make it a class action case. I'm in.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 09:46, 21 September 11
Resistance is futile
(http://images.wikia.com/startrek/images/9/97/Locutusofborg.jpg)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MaV on 10:16, 21 September 11
I must be one of those lucky few whose brain seems immune. I've heard it a few times, because of this thread, but there's no sign of it repeating in my head.

Title: Had to happen...
Post by: Gryzor on 17:43, 21 September 11
Awesomeness.
Title: Re: Had to happen...
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:53, 21 September 11
Nyancat?!? Neincat?!?
Ohhhh, I see what they did there, subtle!



EDIT: My favourite is the RASTERCAT... but I was initially disappointed that it was only a Jamaican cat!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: robcfg on 23:57, 21 September 11
[Joke mode on]


See, You wouldn't be laughing at that Nein Cat if it weren't for the nazis...  :P


[Joke mode off]


If I see any more nyan cat version I think my brain is gonna dissolve or something.... but, on the other hand, they are really funny!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: MacDeath on 09:23, 22 September 11
gotta get a Nyan Amstrad Crocodile then...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 11:26, 22 September 11
Ooh, that would be a terrific idea!

Nyandile?

Croconyan?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 12:23, 22 September 11
Someone did it already (jump to 3:31 on the video) XD

Reason Micro Tutorial: Alligator Triple Filter Gate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlhDdUAqsd0#ws)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 12:26, 22 September 11
It's not flying through space...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Bryce on 13:17, 22 September 11
It is when I watch it, although the video doesn't display properly in the wiki, I had to go to uchoob to see it properly.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 13:37, 22 September 11
I didn't even use the youtube tag, I just pasted the address (wich included a jump to 3:31, by the way) and the forum embedded the video in my post.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 15:14, 22 September 11
Video displays ok, though the timespamp does not work (yet). Let me check what happens at 3:31...

Ahahaha, yeah, that's it!!!! A very nice easter egg...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 15:54, 22 September 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:14, 22 September 11
Video displays ok, though the timespamp does not work (yet). Let me check what happens at 3:31...

Ahahaha, yeah, that's it!!!! A very nice easter egg...

I think that they just put it there for the video, they are putting a lot of humour in their recent tutorials :D
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 01:12, 23 September 11
Quote from: MacDeath on 09:23, 22 September 11
gotta get a Nyan Amstrad Crocodile then...
No, that's not possible because a Crocodile doesn't say "Nyan", only cat's say "Nyan". Nyan means in German "Miau", this is "Miaou" in French (I guess) and "miaow" for the others. Finally in the very beautiful Spanish language the cat says "¡Miau!". However, crocodiles just don't do that!!!

EDIT: A crocodile in contrast will bite your butt, especially if you own a c64 (Crocodiles don't like that).
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 06:59, 23 September 11
Yeah, you're right in that. But what then? Grrrrrcroco? :D

PS In Greek: Miaou or Niaou. Heheh this is silly!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 08:01, 23 September 11
The "nyan" sound comes from japanese in this particular case.


And now that you mention it  ;D

(http://spb.fotolog.com/photo/59/44/33/retrograficas/1197975295_f.jpg)

Miau was a famous brand of canned tuna and sardines.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Bryce on 08:23, 23 September 11
Nyan is German for Miau?? Where did you get that from? Nyan is definitely NOT German for Miau (And yes, I've just asked someone from Bavaria and even someone from Schwabenland and neither of them have ever heard of this).

Bryce.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 16:53, 23 September 11
Quote from: Bryce on 08:23, 23 September 11
Nyan is German for Miau??

Nearly ;-) Nyan is Japanese for meow / miaow. And Miau is good food!
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 16:59, 23 September 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:59, 23 September 11
Yeah, you're right in that. But what then? Grrrrrcroco? :D

PS In Greek: Miaou or Niaou. Heheh this is silly!
Niaou comes close to Nyan. Maybe the old Greek teached the Japaneses their language, or vice versa. Or they had an ancient party together, I can't remember  :laugh:
Yes! That's it! After that party the Japanese tried to write down the greek charcters, and everyone did a bit different, therefore they have 390000000 characters today  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 10:19, 24 September 11
My mom's cat just goes "ni!". Too much Monty Python, I guess...
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 21:17, 26 October 11
It was only a matter of time...
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=57949 (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=57949)

Let the hate flow through you.
- The Emperor, yesterday.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 21:40, 26 October 11
"not interesting at all" hahaha  :laugh:
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 21:49, 26 October 11
Quote from: McKlain on 21:40, 26 October 11
"not interesting at all" hahaha  :laugh:
It's always nice to hear from fans, isn't it? ^_^


I thought we were waiting until the ROM, .cdt, .dsk and CPC+ versions were ready before releasing to the world.


EDIT: Oh, and the screenshot need changing. Whoever did that CATart should be shot on sight! Who was it again?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: McKlain on 21:54, 26 October 11
I had no idea about the status of this. Who did upload it?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 08:40, 27 October 11
Quote from: McKlain on 21:54, 26 October 11
Who did upload it?
A chap called Buckethead (http://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=14343). He looks like an Amiga scener, but his avatar is the CPC droid from ONE MAN AND HIS DROID. (OffTopic: another game where I prefer our music to the C64)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: TFM on 18:30, 27 October 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 08:40, 27 October 11
(OffTopic: another game where I prefer our music to the C64)

:P
And it will not be the last one
:P
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: tastefulmrship on 14:56, 14 December 11
And so it continues... (it is inevitable, Mr Anderson)
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Nyan-Cat-Adventure/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550a13 (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Nyan-Cat-Adventure/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550a13)
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Gryzor on 19:33, 14 December 11
For the love of Gods! But indeed, inevitable.
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Ast on 20:04, 27 October 12
Is a cpc plus version realeased ?
Title: Re: Just for laughs
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:59, 27 October 12
Hmmmm....
Spoiler: ShowHide
http://biing.cpc-live.com/NyanCat.swf


Have Fun ;)
Title: Re: Had to happen...
Post by: AMSDOS on 23:24, 05 July 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:43, 21 September 11
Awesomeness.

When's the Pirate Ship version coming out?
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