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Title: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 22:17, 12 August 21
i am still looking for a graphic artist for my demo. if you are interested please contact me.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 11:58, 15 August 21
Very last call for my demo project. i really feel discouraged because nobody was interested by helping me.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: tjohnson on 13:21, 15 August 21
Ding Ding time gentlemen.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 14:32, 15 August 21
First of all, know that many graphists don't come here often (especially in august).
Second, no one knows you and what you are capable of, plus the various threads you created were interpreted negatively.

My advice is to create a short, maybe simple, but good demo, on your own, to show you're capable of finishing a serious project. There are many tools to convert gfxs correctly. Then, I'm pretty sure people will be more eager to collaborate with you. But first things first, build yourself a reputation by coding, coding, coding and releasing!
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 17:06, 15 August 21
targhan: i am the typical programmer with zero aesthetic skills  :o  so it is hard to make a good demo with awful graphics and colors or with converted only graphics. in my opinion, it will ruin all the work i put in the code. that is why i asked for graphical help. i understand your argument about showing what i am capable of but i think that as no demos were released sinces months, is it a real risk for an artist to help me?
also i saw some graphic artists visiting the forum this month  ::)
and it is a reason why i was looking for a discord channel visited by cpc demomakers  :-*
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: rexbeng on 18:48, 15 August 21
What Targhan said. Also, perhaps you need to be a bit specific regarding what you need.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 19:09, 15 August 21
rexbeng: i need at least one overscan picture, one or two logos, and some colors advices.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 00:46, 16 August 21
Then you need more than a graphist, you also need someone that is good in design. Which needs even more involvement from someone who doesn't know you and what you're capable of. I'm afraid no one will follow you unless they know more about you. I believe the only realistic way is, for your first demo, either do everything on your own, or bring along one of your C64 colleague (It would bring a fresh eye on CPC !).
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 11:26, 16 August 21
targhan: i am the typical programmer with zero aesthetic skills  :o  so it is hard to make a good demo with awful graphics and colors or with converted only graphics. in my opinion, it will ruin all the work i put in the code. that is why i asked for graphical help. i understand your argument about showing what i am capable of but i think that as no demos were released sinces months, is it a real risk for an artist to help me? also i saw some graphic artists visiting the forum this month ::) and it is a reason why i was looking for a discord channel visited by cpc demomakers  :-*

You have to understand. You're asking someone to give up their time to work with you for nothing other than credit. These are the same people who have had to turn down projects with people who have already established probably due to lack of time or whatever.

In short, you can't *make* people work with you if they're not interested.


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Very last call for my demo project. i really feel discouraged because nobody was interested by helping me.
Comments like this aren't helping and will only serve to discourage people whos help you're asking.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 14:25, 16 August 21
i am the typical programmer with zero aesthetic skills
There is this recent demo (https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=87509) made, I believe, by former C64 sceners, with a very interesting design. Maybe get in touch with them to help you on that regard?

But I still believe you should create one or two in-your-face outstanding effects in a simple, short, and if possible original demo, just to prove the world you mean serious business! After that people will flock to work with you.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: eto on 16:31, 16 August 21
i am the typical programmer with zero aesthetic skills

That doesn't matter. If you can show that you have good skills, people are willing to spend their time to work with you.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 19:16, 16 August 21
As i wrote in a previous post that was not approved by a moderator (yes i am still moderated), i do not need so much graphics: at least one overscan picture, one logo and colors advices.


targhan: if i came to cpc, my goal is to work with cpc demomakers. if the plan is to work with c64 people, i should maybe stay on c64. also you told me to do some outstanding effects but you forgot that i am a beginner on cpc  :o  i do the best i can but you can not expect very much from me!


eto: my main effect needs an overscan picture and a logo. my effect can not work without them.


to all: i am a serious guy who will finish my project and will release it. if a graphic artist dares to work with me, it will not be for nothing. is the only solution to prove that i deverve some attention is to post here my demo with jerky memory instead of graphics? i think that it would be a big waste.


also, same problem with music.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 19:40, 16 August 21
Another solution: i am pretty sure that some graphic artists have finished pictures that were never released. Why not giving one of them to me?


And same for music.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 00:12, 17 August 21
if i came to cpc, my goal is to work with cpc demomakers. if the plan is to work with c64 people, i should maybe stay on c64.
You think it the wrong way. Working on CPC with people from another scene IS a strength, because it presents a totally different aesthetic, which makes the demo all the more outstanding. As you noticed, the CPC is a small scene, productive people are already working on their project(s) and no, they won't probably work for an unknown guy, you have to understand that.

As for the "outstanding" effect, it is very possible to create great, new effects with a limited technical knowledge. The most innovative effects these last years are actually based on line-by-line screen spitting, a technique known for 30 years, with clever precalculated data. Including the Batman Demo you're so fond of!

Musicians are easier to find than graphists, as (probably) less work is involved.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 09:40, 17 August 21
targhan: come on, i can not believe that no graphic artist have an unreleased picture that he could give me. if this picture is already done, what has the graphic artist to lose?


also, you are musician, have you some time to make a music for me?
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: SuTeKH/Epyteor on 13:00, 17 August 21
Here is an OVERSCAN PICTURE and a LOGO, as requested.
They are in MODE 0 and fit exactly in 16 PENs.



Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: GUNHED on 01:07, 18 August 21
Yeah, then please put that on a DSK for our new demomaker.  :)
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Ast on 11:02, 18 August 21
Here is an OVERSCAN PICTURE and a LOGO, as requested.
They are in MODE 0 and fit exactly in 16 PENs.
Maybe he needed a Mode 1 Logo?
Please @Bug Powell (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4275) can you tell us the  size you need for your logo and fullscreen ?
Amstrad Cpc or Amstrad Plus ???
Maybe, we could help you, IMPdraw is burning on...
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: skylas on 15:23, 18 August 21
I am not a graphic artist, i just made this for fun, in case it helps you. (a BASIC file in the dsk).

Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 17:07, 18 August 21
Another solution: i am pretty sure that some graphic artists have finished pictures that were never released. Why not giving one of them to me?


And same for music.


You remember this when you become an artist/creator.
The bang of entitlement is strong with this one. You'll go far!  :picard:
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Bug Powell on 17:18, 18 August 21
i finally found my friends for my demo. i am happy  8)
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Ast on 23:24, 18 August 21
Hi @Bug Powell (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4275)


Your gfxs are finished.
Please can you send me PM with your personnal email address ?
I can't post gfxs in PM here.


Bye,


David.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Ast on 23:59, 18 August 21
Oups, i forgotten to tell you how to see your gfx...


run"bugpow4.scr


.ink file is the palette file. (for .win files)


More information about [b).ink can be found here :
Les Fichiers Palette Ink Kit - iMPdraw v2 (wikidot.com) (http://impdraw.wikidot.com/les-fichiers-palette-ink-kit)
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 00:34, 19 August 21
Pro-tip: you can send personal messages via the forum :).
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Ast on 00:36, 19 August 21
Pro-tip: you can send personal messages via the forum :) .
but not send any files...
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Targhan on 00:45, 19 August 21
but not send any files.
Yes, but what I meant was that you could have posted your two previous messages via PM, since they were not really meant to be public messages.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Ast on 00:47, 19 August 21
I did it.
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: Optimus on 11:35, 19 August 21
When I don't want to bother artists or I am too shy to ask, I procedurally generate my gfx :P
Title: Re: Still looking for a graphic artist
Post by: eto on 09:04, 20 October 21
i finally found my friends for my demo. i am happy  8)


How are things going?