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Title: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:45, 02 May 09
Hi All,
Thankyou to JMD I now have the CPC464 French OS roms.
But now I am looking for more.
According to soft968 the official language variants are:
Spanish, French and Danish.

On the cpczone forums I did not believe that the Danish roms were official, but now I hold my hands up and I have been corrected by official documentation.

There is a unofficial Danish rom on the NVG FTP site, so this confused me to the fact if there was official or not.

So now, if anyone has the Danish roms, would they be willing to dump them to tape/disc? If you need help please send me a private message.

Thanks. I will be uploading the roms to urusergi ftp site, so we can all share them.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: the KING on 20:20, 02 May 09
There should be a Norwegian ROM as well, even though I have never seen it.

The clue is in the Norwegian translation of Tasword 464-D, that includes keyboard layouts for both standard and Norwegian ROM's. Tasword was translated by "Kellydata" for the official Norwegian Amstrad distributor "Informasjonssystemer". I used to work at an Amstrad dealer in Tromsø, Norway, and I remember there were some talk about a Norwegian ROM.

Tom
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 23:14, 02 May 09
My Danish amstrad 6128 straight from the attic.
If the machine work i will dump the roms.
I don't think there was a Danish cpc 464 or 664

Johnny
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Ygdrazil on 07:59, 03 May 09
Hi Johnny

There was a Danish CPC 464. I clearly remember that the boy next door had a 464 with the 'new' flat keys, and the Danish letters on the keyboard! As I myself had the original 464 with tall keys and the English rom,  I had to load a program to use Danish letters. But I have no idea how to get hold of a Danish 464 nor a rom dump!

/Ygdrazil

Quote from: Johnny Olsen on 23:14, 02 May 09
My Danish amstrad 6128 straight from the attic.
If the machine work i will dump the roms.
I don't think there was a Danish cpc 464 or 664

Johnny
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 18:23, 03 May 09
Hi Ygdrazil

Ok, then they must exist.
I have seen 4-5 flat key 464 but always with the English rom.
I remember the tall keys 464 I own one back then.
He he i had that program to, what a mess.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: mr_lou on 19:51, 03 May 09
I have a danish CPC464 with danish keys. I have no idea how to dump the rom though.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Ygdrazil on 20:33, 03 May 09
Aha!  ;)

Can you transfer files from the 464 to a PC?

If so, I will send you a small basic program to type in and the roms will be dumped!

/Ygdrazil


Quote from: mr_lou on 19:51, 03 May 09
I have a danish CPC464 with danish keys. I have no idea how to dump the rom though.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: mr_lou on 06:09, 04 May 09
Quote from: Ygdrazil on 20:33, 03 May 09
Can you transfer files from the 464 to a PC?

If so, I will send you a small basic program to type in and the roms will be dumped!l

Yes, no problem.  :)
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: mr_lou on 12:01, 12 May 09
Here is a dsk with the dump of a danish cpc464 rom.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Ygdrazil on 14:35, 12 May 09
Great stuff..

Seeing the Danish characterset in action, once again after many years! (Well if youre Danish i guess)!

/Ygdrazil

PS. Was there a 6128 rom also?

Quote from: mr_lou on 12:01, 12 May 09
Here is a dsk with the dump of a danish cpc464 rom.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: mr_lou on 16:03, 12 May 09
Quote from: Ygdrazil on 14:35, 12 May 09
PS. Was there a 6128 rom also?

Yes, but I don't have a danish CPC6128. Will have to wait for Johnny Olsen to check out his CPC6128 from the attic, if it still works. Then maybe he can dump the rom for you.
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Razorblade on 17:04, 22 December 09
I've attached the dump of my Spanish CPC 464 firmware. ;D

It's nice to see the ñÑ key, and the obsolete currency Pt symbol (now we use €).
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Grim on 18:39, 22 December 09
Gracias!  :)
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Gryzor on 09:06, 25 December 09
Quote from: Razorblade on 17:04, 22 December 09
I've attached the dump of my Spanish CPC 464 firmware. ;D

It's nice to see the ñÑ key, and the obsolete currency Pt symbol (now we use €).

Ah yes, the currency symbol! The pound key (£) always mystified me on my 464/6128! :)
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Phi2x on 17:41, 01 September 12
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Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 21:09, 14 January 14
I had finaly dump my Amstrad 6128 Danish firmware rom.


The Files
----------
1. 6128-BasicDanish.rom
1. 6128-LowerDanish.rom
2. 6130-LowerDanish z key Corrected.rom


6128-LowerDanish.rom is the original rom but for some reason the z key
was moved one pixel up, therefore i had made a rom where i had corrected
the faulty z and name it  "6130-LowerDanish z key Corrected.rom"

I don't think there are any difference between the Danish and English basic ROM

Johnny Olsen


Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: TFM on 21:17, 14 January 14
Thanks for sharing!!!


However there are couple more differences. I put 6128 Lower ROM at &2000 and the Danish at &6000. Then I compared them. These are the differences:


Different :- 3D07=7B  7D07=7E
Different :- 3F00=5B  7F00=40
Different :- 3F02=5D  7F02=3A
Different :- 3F05=5C  7F05=3B
Different :- 3F09=40  7F09=7D
Different :- 3F0B=3B  7F0B=7C
Different :- 3F0C=3A  7F0C=7B
Different :- 3F50=7B  7F50=60
Different :- 3F52=7D  7F52=2A
Different :- 3F55=60  7F55=2B
Different :- 3F59=7C  7F59=5D
Different :- 3F5B=2B  7F5B=5C
Different :- 3F5C=2A  7F5C=5B
Different :- 3FA0=1B  7FA0=00
Different :- 3FA2=1D  7FA2=3A
Different :- 3FA5=1C  7FA5=3B
Different :- 3FA9=00  7FA9=1D
Different :- 3FAB=FF  7FAB=1C
Different :- 3FAC=FF  7FAC=1B
Different :- 492A=7B  892A=7E



Character set begins at &5800 / at &9800
The following differeces are part of the character set of the lower ROM between &3800 and &3FFF


Different :- 5982=CE  9982=C6
Different :- 5983=D6  9983=C6
Different :- 5984=E6  9984=C6
Different :- 5AD8=3C  9AD8=7E
Different :- 5AD9=30  9AD9=D8
Different :- 5ADA=30  9ADA=D8
Different :- 5ADB=30  9ADB=FE
Different :- 5ADC=30  9ADC=D8
Different :- 5ADD=30  9ADD=D8
Different :- 5ADE=3C  9ADE=DE
Different :- 5AE0=C0  9AE0=7C
Different :- 5AE1=60  9AE1=C6
Different :- 5AE2=30  9AE2=CE
Different :- 5AE3=18  9AE3=D6
Different :- 5AE4=0C  9AE4=E6
Different :- 5AE5=06  9AE5=C6
Different :- 5AE6=02  9AE6=7C
Different :- 5AE8=3C  9AE8=38
Different :- 5AE9=0C  9AE9=00
Different :- 5AEA=0C  9AEA=7C
Different :- 5AEB=0C  9AEB=C6
Different :- 5AEC=0C  9AEC=FE
Different :- 5AED=0C  9AED=C6
Different :- 5AEE=3C  9AEE=C6
Different :- 5BD5=32  9BD5=30
Different :- 5BD8=0E  9BD8=00
Different :- 5BD9=18  9BD9=00
Different :- 5BDA=18  9BDA=74
Different :- 5BDB=70  9BDB=1A
Different :- 5BDC=18  9BDC=7E
Different :- 5BDD=18  9BDD=D8
Different :- 5BDE=0E  9BDE=6E
Different :- 5BE0=18  9BE0=00
Different :- 5BE1=18  9BE1=00
Different :- 5BE2=18  9BE2=76
Different :- 5BE3=18  9BE3=CC
Different :- 5BE4=18  9BE4=D6
Different :- 5BE5=18  9BE5=66
Different :- 5BE6=18  9BE6=DC
Different :- 5BE8=70  9BE8=30
Different :- 5BE9=18  9BE9=00
Different :- 5BEA=18  9BEA=78
Different :- 5BEB=0E  9BEB=0C
Different :- 5BEC=18  9BEC=7C
Different :- 5BED=18  9BED=CC
Different :- 5BEE=70  9BEE=76

Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 23:01, 14 January 14
Yes i know this difference, it has something to do with the Danish keyboard layout.

Some of the keys don't works as the english one

 






Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Grim on 03:34, 15 January 14
Quote from: Johnny Olsen on 21:09, 14 January 14I had finaly dump my Amstrad 6128 Danish firmware rom.
Thanks for the dump!

Could you tell us the part number of that ROM by any chance? (it should be something like "Amstrad 400??" marked on top of the chip)
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 09:24, 15 January 14
I had removed the rom and replaced it with a piggybacked CPC464 and cpc6128 roms so I had 2 machines in one.

I'm not sure but i think this is the rom.

Hello from a (kinda) new user. (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/general-discussion/hello-from-a-%28kinda%29-new-user/msg63841/#msg63841)


Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: Grim on 17:56, 15 January 14
AMI 8545KDU AMSTRAWHAT THE #$?! It seems we barely escaped a part number written in Norse runes! :D
Title: Re: Language variants of Operating system roms
Post by: TFM on 17:57, 15 January 14
That's not the part number, it was written on the ROM (therefore also Austria). I assume that it maybe even haven't had a part number. At least the picture of the ROM look like.

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