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Title: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 21:14, 20 June 12
I have small trouble with WinApe. If I press the right Shift-Key on my PC then WinApe's CPC-Emulator prints out cryptical stuff. Look at attached picture.
Does somebody else has such a problem? Is there a solution?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: MiguelSky on 23:01, 23 June 12
It seems you have changed its function in Settings/Input. You can change this there. Does this occurs when pressing alone or combined?
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Devilmarkus on 23:41, 23 June 12
The "encrypted" stuff looks like a non-working PPI port (keyboard malfunction in AY)

You should check winape.ini file ;)
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 20:02, 25 June 12
I've installed three version (07, 17 and 18) and every WinApe Emulator shows the same problem.
I've checked the input settings and loaded the default.kbd. But the problem is still there.
Reinstallation doesn't solve the problem, or overwriting the winape.ini file.
But I found out that this problem only occurs on my PC. If I copy the whole folder on another PC WinApe keyboard works correct.
hmmm.... :(
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: MiguelSky on 20:27, 25 June 12
Perhaps a Windows registry clean is needed...
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 21:09, 25 June 12
...thanks for hint, but no success. I deleted every item with "winape" manually in regedit. Installed WinApe again. The same problem as before. (It's a Win7 System)
Damn...
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Devilmarkus on 23:15, 25 June 12
As it really looks like an AY failure, you should check your soundcard?!?
I have no idea, what could it be... But when I fiddle @ JavaCPC's AY emulation (read/writeport) I encounter the same trouble, when the AY is not connected.

Does this happen, when you PRESS right shift, or when you RELEASE it? Or only in combination with other keys, too?

(Use JavaCPC instead :P )
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 07:10, 26 June 12
It happens if I PRESS right shift keys and no combination with other keys.

I didn't check my soundcard so far, but it works (I mean I hear music and sfx). It's a notebook. I'm going to check the driver (NVidia). Hmm... a couple of month ago I remeber there were no problems with WinApe. Maybe an Driver-Update issue?
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:23, 26 June 12
You can try to enable / disable Direct X stretch functionality in WinApe, but I don't think, its caused by this.
Really, this only happens, when the CPC keyboard is not scanned properly... (And I don't think, that it's bad emulated in WinApe)
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 20:26, 26 June 12
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:23, 26 June 12
... (And I don't think, that it's bad emulated in WinApe)
...you're right. If I copy the whole folder onto onother PC it works properly...
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Executioner on 00:25, 27 June 12
Does the same thing happen with other CPC emulators?
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 08:18, 27 June 12
...no, only WinApe. (If also tested WinCPC and JavaCPC).
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Executioner on 05:50, 30 June 12
Try deleting the kbd file, you don't actually need it!
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 09:31, 30 June 12
I've deleted the kbd-file, but no effect.
I've installed a second win7 system on the same PC. WinApe didn't start. Broke with an internal error!!
I'm going to change the nvidia driver. Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Executioner on 04:23, 02 July 12
This appears to be causes by DirectX setting key[0] returned from GetKeyboardState as pressed. I have no idea why it would, but I use key[0] to indicate no definition. I have a new executable which you can try if you PM me your email address I'll send it for you to try.
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: greg on 19:24, 15 September 12
Hi,


I have the same trouble with WinAPE and the Right-Shift key.
I read you have maybe 1 new winape exe with 1 workaround, could you please send it me plz ?


Thanks
greg
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Executioner on 06:00, 25 September 12
It looks like WinAPE is not the only program with the Right Shift problem. It appears to be causes by dodgy keyboard drivers (or the wrong ones). Have a look at the following http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=18465&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1eb9de2ef9185b928824ea0e19aa2704 (http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=18465&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1eb9de2ef9185b928824ea0e19aa2704)
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Gryzor on 13:19, 25 September 12
Wtf? In 2012, dodgy keyboard drivers?
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: HAL6128 on 20:33, 25 September 12
Quote from: Executioner on 06:00, 25 September 12
It looks like WinAPE is not the only program with the Right Shift problem. It appears to be causes by dodgy keyboard drivers (or the wrong ones). Have a look at the following http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=18465&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1eb9de2ef9185b928824ea0e19aa2704 (http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=18465&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1eb9de2ef9185b928824ea0e19aa2704)
...Yes! And this was exactly the solution of my problem. Using a HP notebook with a "MCIR 109 driver" installed. Changed to "HID conformal device" and now WinApe works with a proper keyboard output.
Thanks Executioner for looking around and finding that solving hint.  :)
(Next time I'll lift my ass to look in another places... promised. But I didn't expect that the same problem appears to another application ....maybe was relating to heavily to the CPC and not to a Windows app...)
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Executioner on 23:30, 25 September 12
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:19, 25 September 12
Wtf? In 2012, dodgy keyboard drivers?

This is HP we're talking about. Great hardware, but poor software/drivers, still can't do 600 dpi scans across my network with a scanner I bought last year.
Title: Re: WinApe right Shift key
Post by: Gryzor on 09:27, 03 October 12
And I had started to worry I might get the same problem on the Vaio I'm contemplating to buy...
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