8 Bit Wars 2

[chinnyhill10]

The same guy who goes on to other forums to post about his videos.

The only other forum I regularly update is World Of Spectrum which represents a very small proportion of my posts there, and is always contained within the same topic in the announcements. I only ever post if there is Speccy content in the video. I've been a poster there for quite a while now and have known people on that forum going back to comp.sys.sinclair circa 1995 (one of my +3's was given to me by someone who used to post on there when I worked with him). Much like I've known some people on here going back to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit .


Amibay posting is occasional and think I posted on Stardot and the MSX forum after both forums helped me extensively with features on the Hit Bit and Elk (only fair the people who helped get to see the end result).


I did post a couple of times on Lemon 64 but I felt bad about it as I only ever have time to be an occasional lurker. It's akin to popping your head around the door of a busy pub to advertise when you have no intention of buying a drink. I do extensively lurk on the Atari Age Xl/XE forum as its fascinating but rarely raise my head above the parapet.


I always post CPC relevant videos on this forum as a courtesy to the CPC community to provoke debate. View wise it isn't important. All the hits come from Twitter these dats, the proportion of views from CPC Wiki and other forums is tiny. However on here we usually get an interesting debate going and that's the real point of posting.


So hopefully that clears up any confusion over what I post on forums.

[Swainy]

And nobody would have objected if they were less spammy in nature or with more involvement with the community.

Well I guess that is me done then. See you around folks.

[FloppySoftware]

Like  Gryzor said a page ago, "videogames are like porn; they're going to be on any and every platform" and that's regardless of if said platform is well suited to the job...

(And now i'm vaguely wondering how much porn is on the PCW...? =-)

Well, there is a strip-poker for the PCW!!!

Unfortunately, the pics are sooooo bad...

[Gryzor]

A couple of posts deleted due to a totally inappropriate and stupid comment. Apologies.

[Puresox]

 

[MacDeath]

wait what happened ? how could this thread derail that far without me posting for some times ?

The thread teached me a lot about word processing history...

did someone flip some bird names ?

[Puresox]

I can't say this is going to help the Amstrad Vs the world position.

[chinnyhill10]

I can't say this is going to help the Amstrad Vs the world position.

Someone made a comment in relation to the adverts that was offensive. It's been deleted. No big deal.

[1024MAK]

Well I guess that is me done then. See you around folks.

What on earth is going on?

Is someone really being pushed away from this forum for posting some pictures/posts that some consider to be "spammy in nature" ?

What is a moderators definition of "spammy in nature" anyway?

Mark

[chinnyhill10]

Well, there is a strip-poker for the PCW!!!

Unfortunately, the pics are sooooo bad...

There's all sorts of strip poker games for the 8 bits. I recall ACU reviewing one that basically featured crude line drawings rather than the later digitised pictures.


Someone must have been buying those games. Didn't Anco do several?


Then you get onto the Amiga and you get the risible Strip Pot, a fruit machine game that rewards you not with cash but with pictures of ladies with few clothes on. Got a right savaging in the review pages (quite rightly).

[Puresox]

Someone made a comment in relation to the adverts that was offensive. It's been deleted. No big deal.

That wasn't the point being made

[chinnyhill10]

What on earth is going on?

Is someone really being pushed away from this forum for posting some pictures/posts that some consider to be "spammy in nature" ?

What is a moderators definition of "spammy in nature" anyway?

Mark

Think the thread makes it quite clear. Regular posts with huge attachments which have to be hosted at the forum owners expense that seem to get plastered across as many forums as physically possible at once. The irony being the traffic to the podcast generated is probably negligible compared to social media.


I think the feeling is it would be quite different if (a) there wasn't a large attachment to each post (with prominent commercial sponsorship) and (b) the person posting them actually took part in the forum instead of only dipping in to bump up his own adverts or ask for stuff.


But don't fall for the classic forum flouncing act. As has been pointed out earlier in the thread, when Swainy has been pulled up on other forums he gets in a huff. He needs us far more than we need him.

[1024MAK]

I'm new-ish here, and am not interested in defending Swainy as an individual (he can do that).

What I am more interested in, is how this forum, it's members and it's moderators/ administrators go about dealing with a member who they consider is becoming / has become a problem.

Now it is very likely that I don't know the whole story if this has happened over various threads. As I dip in and out of this forum, just like I do to a number of others (Stardot, WoS, Atari-Forum, Sinclair ZX World, Memorum as well as others). As I have seen some of his posts on WoS, I don't tend to go actively looking for them here, as I am often on a mobile and when I am out and about, I don't want to watch a podcast/video of people talking about comparing games on different systems.
As I have various Sinclair Spectrums, some CPC 6128s, and some Commodore 64 and 128 machines, if I want, I can play a game on any of these computers.

Was he warned? Did he ignore the warnings? Were the warnings polite and to the point?

Mark

Hm, a iPad makes a bit of a mess of posts  hence the edit...

[1024MAK]

All the hits come from Twitter these dats, the proportion of views from CPC Wiki and other forums is tiny.

Not that it matters that much to me, but I thought that I would say that I am not on Twitter. In fact the only social media site I am on is Facebook (mainly because a workmate set the "account" up as a laugh, although I now have control).

I much prefer forums, as being a shift worker (rotating shift patterns, leading one of five teams providing cover 24 hours a day, 363 days a year), I at least have a cats chance of following what is going on.

Mark

[Swainy]

Think the thread makes it quite clear. Regular posts with huge attachments which have to be hosted at the forum owners expense that seem to get plastered across as many forums as physically possible at once. The irony being the traffic to the podcast generated is probably negligible compared to social media.


I think the feeling is it would be quite different if (a) there wasn't a large attachment to each post (with prominent commercial sponsorship) and (b) the person posting them actually took part in the forum instead of only dipping in to bump up his own adverts or ask for stuff.


But don't fall for the classic forum flouncing act. As has been pointed out earlier in the thread, when Swainy has been pulled up on other forums he gets in a huff. He needs us far more than we need him.

Make you're mind up Chinny. One minute you are saying it's ironic that I'm posting on a forum when social media could gain me more hits but suddenly I need this place more than it needs me.

Anyway, let's clear a few things up. I post here about RA to inform people when a new episode has gone live. I do so in the hope that the Amstrad community get involved with the show. I doubt if the numbers gained from posting here are huge but as I said, I wanted Amstrad owners to take part.

The show often rides high on the iTunes gaming chart and we even picked up the UK Podcasters Award for the best video game podcast this year so I'm not exactly desperate for listeners. As I said, I just wanted the Amstrad community to feel that they could take part with the show.

I was even thinking of inviting you on to the show at some point

Secondly all images are hosted on the RA server, I never upload them onto this forums server or anyone else's server. If that meant that they still ate into this servers bandwidth then I apologise.

If the images were annoying you, a simple PM would have done. In all of the time that I have been posting here, I've never seen a post or received a PM that suggested that I was upsetting anyone by doing this. You've used the word offensive. I honestly can't see how this is offensive but apologies to those who do.

Also please show me an example of me kicking off on other forums. I honestly think you have got a strong dislike for me because I sometimes make the odd joke on my show about your preferred format. That is all they are. Jokes. I own an Amstrad 6128 and a GX4000. I get enjoyment out of them, just like I do with every other system.

If you don't like my show, then don't listen to it. If you've got that much of a problem with me, either ignore me or be a man and talk to me about it rather than taking it to Twitter & running to the moderators.

Also, you put your opinion onto the Internet about the how you think that the Amstrad CPC was the only real choice when it comes to being used as anything other than a games machine. That's fine, you are entitled to your opinion as am I.

Is this how you react with everyone else who doesn't agree with you?

I've been hosting RA since late 2011, lots of people do not agree with all of my of my opinions. That is fine, I put my opinion out there on offer so I obviously have to expect feedback. Not all of it is positive but that is life. You can't please everyone all of the time. I sometimes make mistakes. If I honestly think I'm wrong about something I am the first to admit it.

One thing that I will say is in all of that time hosting the show, I have never come across someone who appears to have such a personal problem with me.

Anyway, that is me done here in regards to posting anything about RA. Hopefully I don't need your permission to remain a member here so that I can discuss the CPC & other formats? Apologies if I have upset anyone else in the process.

Maybe it's best if the moderator locks this topic now otherwise I can see it spiralling out of control.

Cheers.

[Gryzor]

No, of course you don't need a permission, and of course you can discuss all formats. You can even announce new episodes, just be considerate and make those announcements less spammy.


@1024MAK , @ivarf , the issue is not you or someone else ignoring said posts. If we go with the "if you don't like it ignore it" argument then we may as well open up the forum to anyone advertising from porn to "my aunt made $$$ from home". We're trying to keep a minimum level of relevance and quality here, and plastering poster after poster with otherwise minimal involvement doesn't pass the smell test. It's a matter of simple courtesy.


As for a warning, not sure what's meant by that - the relevant thread is a 'warning' in itself. Nobody was banned, no threads were pulled.

[1024MAK]

@ Gryzor
If you do something wrong, or do something I don't like, you are likely to continue doing it until you discover that what you are doing is not liked.
If no one tells you, how long is it going to take before eventually you find out. And if you find out by a thread you started becoming a mud slinging event, is that really the best way? Of course not. Surely the better way, would be to send a message (private mail or email) direct to the member to inform them what the problem is and to kindly not do that again. If their existing posts need to be modified, either ask them to change them, or inform then beforehand what you are going to do and when. Or if the content is really bad, why you have already changed or deleted the offending content.

Now if you don't think what I have outlined is reasonable, please tell me.

Mark

[chinnyhill10]

Make you're mind up Chinny. One minute you are saying it's ironic that I'm posting on a forum when social media could gain me more hits but suddenly I need this place more than it needs me.

Anyway, let's clear a few things up. I post here about RA to inform people when a new episode has gone live. I do so in the hope that the Amstrad community get involved with the show. I doubt if the numbers gained from posting here are huge but as I said, I wanted Amstrad owners to take part.

Maybe it's best if the moderator locks this topic now otherwise I can see it spiralling out of control.

Cheers.

You don't need permission to post here. As Gryzor has said, it's a matter of courtesy. This is a community not a vehicle for you to continuously promote something without putting anything back in.


The irony being you yourself are trying to build a community. So can we have a 3 minute advert for the CPC Wiki every show? Nothing intrusive, just me shouting out commercial sponsors name over The Ace Of Spades at full volume? We obviously cannot offer anything in return and the advert must be 100% on our terms or we will get upset.


You'd might say "But that would be intrusive", "please don't include the commercial sponsors" and "you can have 20 second slot every 3 months". Do you see?


Can I put it any more reasonably than that?


I have read all of your post. I'm not getting into any more mudslinging. I'm not the forum owner and neither am I the only person to have complained (I believe I was the last of many). Other opinions are avaliable.

[Gryzor]

@ Gryzor
If you do something wrong, or do something I don't like, you are likely to continue doing it until you discover that what you are doing is not liked.
If no one tells you, how long is it going to take before eventually you find out. And if you find out by a thread you started becoming a mud slinging event, is that really the best way? Of course not. Surely the better way, would be to send a message (private mail or email) direct to the member to inform them what the problem is and to kindly not do that again. If their existing posts need to be modified, either ask them to change them, or inform then beforehand what you are going to do and when. Or if the content is really bad, why you have already changed or deleted the offending content.

Now if you don't think what I have outlined is reasonable, please tell me.

Mark

No, it is reasonable, and it's one way. But the thread I'm talking about is not this one. Sending a PM is not the only way, and I don't see why it should've been private, to tell you the truth. There was spamming. I removed some of it. I also said it's not going to be welcomed in the future. Is this not reasonable?

[dodogildo]

some french scientists managed to create their own mouse for the CPC664...


oops sorry those pictures are freaking huge... open them into another window.

Excellent article. tnx


The professor's choice of using Amstrad in his lab, over 16/32 bits seems quite sweet as many of his pupils should also have Amstrad at home.
I attended to a French school in Istanbul (rare case) and our labs were full of Thomsons, I wish we also had Amstrads in the school instead

[dcdrac]

what were Thomsons like to use?

[dodogildo]

what were Thomsons like to use?

They were very easy to use and had excellent Basic interpreter, just like the CPC. (It was very easy for me to adopt). They were fast.
Thomsons had colour monitors and were networked/administrated by a 8086 IBM PC server. The professor was running exams by pushing some test into our terminals remotely.


In my country C64 was the champion 8 bit micro, few people had CPCs. But even the C64 owners in our class (which were almost only into games and were very novice programmers in the beginning ), all managed to program awesome Basic software in a few months thanks to those Thompson micros. I remember people programming a billiard simulator or other mini games. Me and a buddy we managed to program our own Art Studio (The Thomson had lightpen!)  in a semester. But of course it was not us, it was the Thomson

[MacDeath]

There's all sorts of strip poker games for the 8 bits.

But too few being actually good (and good looking) on CPC...

Scene, what are you waiting for ?


Thomson could be quite a decent 8bit computer provided you use the MO6-TO8 ones... but those were released far too late...

quite like a CPC without sounds (beeper) but huge RAM and PLUS palette... As its CPU is a 6809 I guess it may use some OS-9 variant, and may even sport a nice GUI in 320x200x4.

OS-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I attended to a French school in Istanbul (rare case) and our labs were full of Thomsons, I wish we also had Amstrads in the school instead

very very trés interessant...
the Thomsons were created to fullfill a state order for education programm...
they had a nice Network and were issued to all French school.

quite fun to know the "french school" around the world would use them as well...
Cocoricoo !!!

all of you don't hesitate to visite the Page I made on the mater at CPCwiki...
Thomson - CPCWiki

or is it this one ?
Thomson and Thompson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MO6 and TO8 are the Thomson and Thompson of computers.

[Puresox]

Are the basic commands modified too French? Or have they utilised the English Basic?

[MacDeath]

I don't think, should be verified, but BASIC and computers natively speak english... wasn't it a Microsoft Basic ?

BASIC 1.0 — Wikipédia


yeah, was in glitches... basically (pun) you had to keep the mnemonics in order to be "compatible" with 99% of computers from the market.