Poll
Title: Best game???
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:36, 16 April 10
Please can everyone vote?
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Post by: Devilmarkus on 14:37, 16 April 10
voted ;)
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Post by: Gryzor on 15:08, 16 April 10
Voted.
But it was a close call and a difficult choice between R-type, Light Force (which I had played to bits back in the day) and Flying Shark. Yes, I know FS is usually trashed, but I really loved it...
Why are you asking?
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Post by: ukmarkh on 15:40, 16 April 10
Wow, X-Out is trailing, I'd never have thought that. Looks like its gonna be a straight fight between Light force and R-Type. Did nobody like UN Squadron?
Its a project for the book, I think you'll like it.
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Post by: GFXOR on 15:49, 16 April 10
It is hard to vote : my vavorite games are not in the list : Arkanoid, Boulder Dash, Commando, Prohibition, Evil Donjon :)
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Post by: viddi on 16:08, 16 April 10
Flying Shark! ;)
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Post by: arnoldemu on 16:23, 16 April 10
voted p47 thunderbolt.
why?
It's a good shooter, well presented, and nice graphics.
r-type has good playability, but I enjoyed p47 more.
mission genocide has really nice scrolling, but I found was very boring.
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Post by: Cholo on 19:11, 17 April 10
Yeah, P47 really is a nice one, so hard to choose only one. Perhaps Silkworm might also have made the list.
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Post by: mr_lou on 19:19, 17 April 10
Embarrassed to admit I haven't tried most of them. So I'll have to download them and play a bit before voting.
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Post by: Ritchardo on 22:23, 17 April 10
Tough choice - went for P47 in the end - surprised to see it in the lead as much as I love it!
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Post by: ukmarkh on 14:22, 18 April 10
C'mon own up, who voted for Mission Genocide?
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Post by: TomEtJerry on 14:47, 18 April 10
Hello,
I voted Flying shark. It is not technically the best shooter, but it's the only one I took pleasure to play with. Other ones are too slow or simply boring...
T&J/GPA
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Post by: robcfg on 14:55, 18 April 10
I voted for Game Over II (Phant'is in Spain).
It's has not the best graphics, it's not specially difficult, but it was super fun. And as you could play the two parts of the game very fast, that made it a superb game to play when you had very little time.
I still play it from time to time :laugh:
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Post by: mr_lou on 18:53, 18 April 10
I'm missing a link to the game P47.
Can't find it on the NVG FTP.
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Post by: Leonie on 19:23, 18 April 10
"Light Force" is a great shooter with nice graphics and gameplay, but "Mission Genocide" is also a nice shooter and offers the best vertical scrolling on planet earth.
Mmmmh... ???
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Post by: Nich on 19:38, 18 April 10
I voted for P-47 as well. :)
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Post by: MacDeath on 19:53, 18 April 10
Silkworm, because you could play 2Players with it.
But where is Forgotten Worlds ? it was a freaking great game !
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Post by: mr_lou on 22:54, 18 April 10
I had to choose between Mission Genocide and Mr.Heli, and I went with Genocide.
Smooth movement is important to me, and the minimalistic graphics are somehow charming. Mr.Heli has neat music, but the gameplay in Genocide is more exciting to me. Yes it does tend to get a little boring, but as levels progress it helps. I got to level 3 where things began to get quite interesting.
A lot of the games on the poll has very annoying sound effects that simply ruins the game experience in my opinion. And no matter how impressive graphics a game may have, chunky movement renders great graphics useless in my world.
Xout was also interesting though, but not quite enough.
I've never played Mission Genocide before, but as it looked amazingly much like a C64 game, we searched for a C64 version and found it. Then we played the game on both machines at the same time. They are 99% the same, but the sprites move smoother on the C64 (as they do most of the time), but overall a very neat Amstrad version.
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Post by: mahlemiut on 00:50, 19 April 10
Most of my CPC games are budget one, since back in the day, $45 or so was a bit much for a game, so for me, it was a toss up between Mission Genocide and Bosconian '87. Love the music on Bosconian, but in the end Mission Genocide won out simply for fun factor. Flying Shark is the only other game I've played to any great extent, and discounted it due to the annoyance of bullets being hard to spot at times. Nothing worse than bullets that are the same colour as most of the background.
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Post by: redbox on 14:45, 19 April 10
P-47 all the way - awesome game.
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Post by: Doktor on 23:13, 20 April 10
Thats true !
It was and still is one of my favorite CPC games... :D
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Post by: ukmarkh on 17:29, 22 April 10
Not according to the poll... not a single vote ;)
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Post by: Leonie on 17:55, 22 April 10
The graphic of X-Out looks superb, almost like an Amiga-Game. Nice colours!
Mr.Heli looks also great, quite similar to the Atari ST-Version.
But I vote for Mission Genocide, because it´s really fast and exciting, and super-smooth.
PS: Does someone like Zynaps?
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Post by: robcfg on 18:53, 22 April 10
Zynaps had one of the best music I've ever heard on CPC!
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Post by: TFM on 22:14, 22 April 10
This whole game is awesome, but in higher levels also awesome hard to play!
And... you don't need drugs any longer, just watch the menue screen ;-)
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Post by: fano on 22:31, 22 April 10
About Zynaps , it owns nice gfx but the handling of the ship is difficult with a bit of inertia and it is very difficult !
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Post by: TFM on 23:33, 22 April 10
Yeah! Uridium is more easy!!! And a whole lot of fun!!! The music - didn't know that it was the same composer, but yes, now since you tell it! Both title tracks are AWESOME!!! Sometimes I start Uridium, just to hear the sound. I also put it into ROM to be able to just start the game by one RSX command :-)
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Post by: MacDeath on 18:34, 23 April 10
Yeah zynaps was awesome, I sometime think of it as the precursor of star sabre...
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Post by: ukmarkh on 18:46, 23 April 10
Shame about the god awful collision detection.
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Post by: TFM on 22:10, 23 April 10
Well, that's the invisible force fields of the other objects ;-) But you're right, it's sometimes a painted ass, ehhh pain in the ass. (Don't censor it! I learnt it from Ernest Borgnine)
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Post by: Executioner on 12:51, 25 April 10
I voted for P47 'cause it's really a great game both technically and playability wise. Mr. Heli was also one of my all-time favourites partly because of the catchy tune. Never could get into Mission Genocide although technically it does have the most advanced hardware scrolling, shame about the rest of the game.
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Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:52, 25 April 10
I first voted for X-Out...
But then I also tried P47.
It's indeed a pretty cool game!
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Post by: nurgle on 15:44, 26 April 10
Zynaps would have been my number 1, played it a LOT. Unfortunately its not in the poll, so I had to go for Harrier Attack. ::)
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Post by: cpc4eva on 20:04, 26 April 10
i've played all of them and im really suprised there is no vote for mr heli ??? ? that was an AA rave !!!
zynaps had some cool tunes and nice gfx but I felt it was a limited shooter and its lasting appeal was extremely short
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Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:10, 26 April 10
Indeed, Zynaps has lousy level design in the first 2-3 stages.
Then, it becomes much better!
Then, it repeats the design.
And then, it's over *lol*
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Post by: Leonie on 21:01, 26 April 10
Ich habe mal versucht, mit "Unendlich Leben" das Spiel endlich mal durchzuspielen, weil es ja so schwer ist.
Aber irgendwie fing irgendwann der ganze Quatsch wieder im ersten Level an.
Ich habe nie ein "Ende " gesehen! >:(
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Post by: mr_lou on 21:09, 26 April 10
I'm surprised by that too.
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Post by: Leonie on 21:11, 26 April 10
I love the Dave Rogers-tunes of "Stormlord" and "Cybernoid 2".
The tune of "Cybernoid 1" is a nice one too, it sounds like "ice cream and ballons".
The AY-Chip can put out some really good music.
Nobody needs a SID, the AY can give you all the sexual feelings you´re dreaming of.
AY-Chip rulez! :) :) :)
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Post by: Leonie on 21:42, 26 April 10
Probably the "Mr. Heli-Sprite" looks too cute for real "Men Drivers".
I love the sprite of "Mr. Heli"! :)
It looks so fat, round and sweet!
The jolly tune of "Mr. Heli" is sweet as well!
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Post by: robcfg on 00:39, 27 April 10
Ich glaube bei die Spectrum version von Zynaps gibt ein ende aber nicht für Amstrad.
Or in plain english: I think that the Spectrum version of Zynaps has an end, the Amstrad version is an infinite loop.
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Post by: Gryzor on 11:57, 27 April 10
Guys, please do keep it in english.
Ευχαριστώ.
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Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:01, 27 April 10
Ίσως θα πρέπει να ανοίξουμε ένα φόρουμ ελληνικά, πάρα πολύ.
No, really, we should keep the languages seperate.
That's why we made a German forum section.
It's of course no problem when a non English talking person posts in German, or also a non German talking person posts in English
when a thread is interesting.
But the most people here talk English, too, so they should keep posting in English then.
Title: Re: Best game???
Post by: Bryce on 12:04, 27 April 10
I thought you might say that :D
Bryce.
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Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:10, 27 April 10
Ninyi, wapenzi Bryce, lazima mimi jibu tu Kiswahili.
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Post by: Axelay on 12:28, 27 April 10
Wasnt going to vote, because I couldnt decide between my favourite few on the list, cant pick one over the other... But I'd also noticed over the last week the surprising lack of love for Mr Heli, so it can have my vote.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 12:35, 27 April 10
I always thought Forgotten Worlds was an average conversion of a quality arcade game on the amstrad CPC, too slow compared to the other versions. I can't understand how Mr Heli is trailing behind, that was an excellent shooter, and i'm massively suprised at the lack of love for X-Out.
Mission Genocide on top eh? I can understand why, amazing scrolling, good graphics and a rock hard challenge... I thought the difficulty might have put some off, but good to see its a firm favourite.
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Post by: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10
mr.heli is also good fun, but I liked p47 more.
I always thought Forgotten Worlds was slow...
X-Out never really appealed to me.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 14:29, 27 April 10
I don't see your point, the best game would include the best playability... ka
Not according to the poll... Mission Genocide was the bomb. P47 didn't have very good enemy movement, the enemy basically came straight at you. Predicatable and a little boring, and it pissed me right off that the game just loops at the end. Wasn't that impressed, graphically its good.
Each to their own, but your wrong ;)
Half right :P
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Post by: MacDeath on 19:55, 27 April 10
The problem is that for exemple I didn't played some of those game at the CPC era.
X-Out or Mr.Heli or P47... we hadn't them in Valence (no cracked version was shared) so it has no influence on my youth.
Also, forgotten world had it's speed running irregulary, but it was so much fun because of the coin-op 2up player option.
It was a good memory for be because I coulkd share agood moment with by big brother instead of just seeing him play (he was sort of aselfish bitch sometimes.. >:( )
The same with Silkworm (my vote) : it was a shared experience.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 22:41, 27 April 10
Probably best you don't vote then... maybe a future poll will feature games you might have played.
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Post by: mr_lou on 13:11, 30 April 10
I never played over half those games on the poll, including Mission Genocide. But I tried them all before voting, and went with Genocide.
Interestingly, as it looks a lot like a C64 game, I thought it was ported from the C64. Surely enough there is a C64 version as well, so I assumed I was right.
But later, when searching for a synopsis about the game, I found an interview with the author online somewhere, in which he says that all this games originated on the CPC - so it's actually the C64 version of Genocide which is a port from the CPC.
I'd like a CPC version of Genocide with cheat though, so I can see all the levels. :)
Currently only the C64 version has cheat, but I'm not playing on the C64... 8)
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Post by: Axelay on 13:29, 30 April 10
The CPC version you get off TACGR has an infinite lives poke.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 17:15, 30 April 10
You won't have the same appreciation for Genocide if you cheat your way through. Just needs a bit of practice is all. The first time I completed it, I was like how bloody good was that, but yes it's hard. I can complete on pretty much every other go.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 17:17, 30 April 10
Hi Axe, any chance you could release an ultimate edition of Star Sabre? It needs to be a little tougher, completed it several times now but wish I could up the difficulty a notch.
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Post by: mr_lou on 17:48, 30 April 10
Yea, but you're also the dude who completed Star Sabre in 3 days, and I still can't get past the 2nd level. (And I only get past 1st level sometimes!)
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Post by: ukmarkh on 19:34, 30 April 10
I could never understand why they didn't build games around all levels of difficulty... i.e. easy, medium or hard. No excuses for new games, they should all feature this option. I was playing God of War 3 the other day and getting my arse handed to me by one of the gods, and the game had the cheek to ask me if I wanted to drop down to an easier difficulty, now this is taking things too far, and I gave the tv the two fingers and marched on, eventually.
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Post by: Axelay on 15:28, 02 May 10
I'm afraid I'm not keen to revisit past projects like that, it takes time away from working on ideas and code for new projects. There's a pretty good chance of a difficulty level option appearing in future projects though!
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Post by: Leonie on 16:35, 10 May 10
I don´t like levels of difficulty.
The game is the game.
You have to get along with it.
This is the challenge.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 16:55, 10 May 10
Totally disagree... it prolongs the life of a game, I find some games way too easy, hence no challenge, and wished I could up the anti. On the other hand I've games from 20 years ago that I'm unable to beat because they are way too hard. Dude, everyone's skill level is different, this option should have been, and hopefully will be included in future CPC releases. I'd also like to see new games take advantage of the two button controller; this would breathe even more life and longevity into new games. Probably dreaming now, but network connectivity aware co-op gaming for the CPC?
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Post by: arnoldemu on 17:02, 10 May 10
But I will consider your comments for my future games.
Your dream will have to stay a dream unless somebody makes an ethernet card for cpc ;)
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Post by: Leonie on 17:17, 10 May 10
This is an attribute of a great game with great gameplay:
It´s difficult, but not unfair, so you have the chance to learn how to play and finish it.
In this case you don´t need levels of difficulty.
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Post by: ukmarkh on 18:01, 10 May 10
In the case of games such as R-Type, they got the balance just right... but sadly in many games I've played over the years, the judgment and balance have been slightly off. And many programmers themselves have admitted to this. For instance 'Contra' on the NES, probably the most difficult game on earth, will hand you your arse over and over. In fact not many people have ever completed the game, and try as you may; I bet not many ever will either, Battle Toads is another classic example.
I believe it's one of the reasons the Dreamcast is loved so much, many of its games, especially the shoot-em-ups came with multitudes of choice, and therefore if experienced, made its games accessible to many gamers. If the gamer felt up to it, an ultimate difficulty was there for the taking.
Maybe, it's just me... but I'd prefer the choice in my games.
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Post by: mr_lou on 22:09, 10 May 10
We (LuBlu Entertainment (http://www.lublu.dk)) had the same thoughts as ukmarkh when we developed our mobile games. We wanted to target a lot of players in different age-groups, so we implemented 3 difficulties in our 3 games.
Just want to say that I'm with you ukmarkh! ;)
But judging from our online highscores from our game Ukko's Journey (http://www.ukkosjourney.com), it looks like most people never notice the option. :-X
81% of the uploaded highscores are from normal difficulty. 16% easy mode, and 3% hard mode. Based on those stats, I agree with arnoldemu that it's too much work compared to how much it's actually used... (or else I can pretend we just happened to find the correct difficulty for the majority... ::) )
I'll probably keep implementing 3 difficulty-modes anyway though... :)
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Post by: nurgle on 03:07, 11 May 10
www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Virtual_Net_96 (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Virtual_Net_96)
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Post by: Gryzor on 12:38, 11 May 10
On way to typically omit difficulty levels is to have adaptive gameplay difficulty, like in Gods. But this would require too much AI to fit on the CPC...
Meanwhile... P47 better than R-Type???!!!!!
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Post by: ukmarkh on 16:57, 11 May 10
I know? I think the people that voted for P47 are just graphic hoares, who don't care about game-play, just how good a game looks. ;)
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Post by: Leonie on 15:54, 12 May 10
"Flying Shark" is one of the Mode 1-games that looks quite good.
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Post by: cpc4eva on 23:47, 14 May 10
it was way too slow and i thought it was a poor conversion to cpc
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Post by: ukmarkh on 23:50, 14 May 10
Hi ya chap, what game did you vote for if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by: Leonie on 23:56, 14 May 10
You´re right. It is slow and not very enjoyable, but the detailed graphic looks good for Mode1. The colours are well-chosen.
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Post by: MacDeath on 18:06, 15 May 10
Flying Shark is not THAT slow... the animation also is smooth and quite constant if I remember well.
But, well, only need a little speed boost.
The major issue is the colour of the bullets.
It sometimes mix so much with the background you can't see them that well.
perhaps if those could have flickering colours (alternate between 2 colours...)
Also perhaps the sprites are a bit less coloured than they could.
If the background's tiles are properly re-done form the speccy, the sprites are not (still in 2 colours).
And colours could have been a bit betterly choosen.
Exemple : 1st level :
yellow + orange + light green + black.
3 colours "containning" Yellow... no wonder you can't see the bullet.
Perhaps getting the light yellow in White may be better.
Or something like that.
But the 27 colours palette from old CPC is actually not that easy to work with.
Really unbalanced, it can be great for some sutff, and bad for some others.
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Post by: Leonie on 21:20, 15 May 10
Flying Shark:
The colours of the landscape are well-chosen. It looks good, not like a spectrum port.
But yes, the sprites, especially the bullets, could really use some extra colours.
But as we know, there are only 4 colours in Mode 1... :'(
The scrolling is without hurry but very smooth.
However, Ikari Warriors is faster and also smooth, isn´t it?
EDIT: The music of Flying Shark could be a lot better. The AY is more than a beeper!
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Post by: Leonie on 21:25, 15 May 10
Are you crazy?
The colours of the CPC are sooo lovely, romantic, bold.....just wonderful!
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Post by: MacDeath on 22:17, 15 May 10
I know it's a good palette for a 1984's computer...
27 colours is far more than what a Speccy or C64 can offer.
And as I said it's a bit unbalanced.
Lack of Greys (only one...) and proper "Browns" (Dark red is not a real brown, nor is the Orange...) actually.
This means you can't get reallistic stuff (wood or stone) or Grim and Gritty ambiances...
I always say that if the CPC did have the 32 colours it could actually handle, with let's say +2 greys (light and dark), + 3 Browns (light, medium and dark) it could have change a lot of thing.
But the Colours were generated strangely with a 3 level for each RGB... 3 levels, not even bits...
I don't know if +5 custom colours could have been added to those.
The C64 palette used only custom colours.
And perhaps such custom colours were not possible in a Gate Array, or could have cost too much to produce, or whatever....
But the colourfull chatoyance of the numerous blues, Purples, the sweet Yeelow-orange or Yellow-green gradiants, the nice Red gradient too...
Simply excellent for colourfull stuff, cartoon like style, Fantasy/Heroic fantasy, space galaxies and so on...
And this lack of some kind of colours is not that a big deal when your are in a 4 colours mode...
but many great games in Mode0 managed to make the CPC one of the best computer of its time in term of graphics (compared to C64 and Speccy mostly...)
Barbarian is simply as good as on 16 bit IMO while Speccy or C64 are inferior in graphics.
Spanish games were always awesome and proper intro pages on CPC could really kick serious asses.
(Gabrielle..dynamic games, some french games too...)
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Post by: Leonie on 22:39, 15 May 10
Games like "Purple Saturn Day" or "Captain Blood" are wonderful to look at as well as the countless french adventures with theirs absolut amazing graphics. (the French really knew how to draw arts on the Amstrad). Sadly my french is confined to "Moi je m'appelle Lolita ". :'(
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Post by: cpc4eva on 01:08, 16 May 10
flying shark's colours were poorly chosen. i would have liked to seen flying shark in mode 0. as you mentioned the bullet sprite was hard to see and that was only one flaw of the conversion to cpc.
but i still think its rather slow.... what gets me puzzled is that afterburner was a lovely colourful fast and smooth with clear sprites and movement and no problem seeing the bullets many agree it was the best 8 bit conversion in comparison to the speccy and c64 and yet flying shark is the complete opposite to afterburner..... possible answer is that firebird released flying shark and ocean released afterburner on cpc.
a cpc with 32 colours would have made it very interesting i couldnt agree more. there was lack of greys and browns and at times lack of grim and grittyness graphically.
but why have 3 modes ? that always bugged me about the cpc it felt so limited in that area. would it have been possible to have better GFX modes than the 3 it had ?
mode 1 would have been better with atleast 10 colours and not 4.
mode 2 was really annoying only ever used for serious applications like wordprocessing etc
mode 0 lovely colour but usually meant GFX were blocky and movement slow
my french is confined to math le math le difficile :(
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Post by: MacDeath on 14:22, 17 May 10
Back to topic.
The Video System on CPC can't overclock in order to get square pixels in 16 colour modes per exemple...
(Of course this would mean 2x time the amount of video ram).
Also, getting 5 colours is simply impossible until it were coded quite differently.
Yet : we have 1 bit code (Mode2), 2 bit code (Mode1) and 4 bit code (mode0...).
Perhaps some modes in 3 bits (8 colours) or 5 bits (32 colours...) could have been fun... if only a little overclock available in CRTC-GateArray relation.
Also As I told, I don't even know if this could have been possible to put those 5 extra colours in the palette because I don't really know the possibilities of a gate Array (it's some kind of customisable chip...).
CRTC+Gate array is an unusual Video solution actually.
And we have to remember that EGA graphic cards on PC were released in 1984-1985 only...
If only Amstrad did something like a EGA on CPC instead of a CGA...
What made the graphical modes lacking flexibility IMO was the fact we had no real Video Ram as on MSX per exemple because CPC wasn't designed as a 128K computer...
Or an optionnal "character Attribute" system could have been well mixed with the CPC video...to get decent multimode or multi palette screens...
(like, each character with a choice between 2 or even mode ink settings...)
the Palette system allows 16 colours as ink (because of mode0) + 1 border...
So 12 colours ink slots are unused in Mode1 and 14 unused in Mode2...
Title: Re: Best game???
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:48, 17 May 10
3 modes?
The video hardware takes each byte and shifts it by 1 bit per clock.
Then based on mode it masks out the bits, and finally this makes a pen index.
The pen index is then used to get the colour that has been programmed.
With this method it only makes sense to have 1,2, 4 or 8 bits per pixel.
Shame we never got 8 bits per pixel :(
Of course because the clock is always the same, and to ensure all modes take the same area, they update the shift ever x clocks depending on mode too.
If you had different video clock you would get different sized pixels.
Overclocking is possible, but the gate-array generates timing for the z80. why? because gate-array needs access to ram when it needs it. If gate-array didn't have priority then the picture would not be stable. So they decided to always make the gate-array have priority at all times and for all ram, so all ram has the same timings.
It would be possible to have 3 bits per pixel or 5 bit per pixel, but you would have to decode 2 bytes at a time, or loose some bits in the byte. And then you need to decide how wide each pixel will be. Too small, and you loose hsync/vsync timing too.
An attribute mode would have been interesting.
I think what you are talking about is the video hardware of the enterprise computer.
It has all that you describe.
The colours: They are probably generated by taking the bit patterns in the number and deciding the r,g,b from these.
some of the possibilities are duplicates, and in this case it would have been nice to add in some needed colours (greys, browns and some other useful colours), but of course keeping all other colours in there too ;)
Title: Re: Best game???
Post by: MacDeath on 15:24, 17 May 10
But hey, a mode0 in 256colours on PLUS would kickass.
Also this could have been possible on Atari ST (with its palette of 512...and its CPC like video modes but in 32K instead of 16K...They really passed beside this.
But we'll have to remember CPC464 was Amstrad's first try in computers...This could have been even worse.
just too bad they didn't used more of their IBM PC compatible experience on the PLUS range...
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Post by: Shredder11 on 20:04, 09 July 10
I loved playing The Island Of Dr. Destructo and if we are talking shoot-em-ups, how come the Cybernoid series are missing from the poll?
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Post by: Shredder11 on 20:07, 09 July 10
One of my favourites and yes the music is brilliant, although the collision detection during the game was frustrating. Great game though!
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Post by: TFM on 20:30, 09 July 10
I heart the thing with the collision detection a 1000 times ;-) And yes, it's so true! But a great game anyway.
... at the moment I'm thinking about Starglider - one of my favorite games - how would it look like in an 128 KB version?
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Post by: Pentagon on 00:47, 10 July 10
I am playing Mercenary - Escape from Targ again. I can tell you its so much fun, i love that game so much. I started to paint maps with my pen and paper again and i will try the "2nd City" if i solved the 1st part.
Its a good game and worth to play. The Vector graphics is well done and its so much faster then the 64er Version. BTW: Did you knew that you can shoot on a Atari Logo in some versions and at the atari system on a commodore logo etc.?
when i am done with mercenary i wanted to try "Dun Daragh" again. The animation and the flying hair of that dude is so cool. "IRIDI?"
Kindly Regards
Tom / Pentagon
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Post by: Leonie on 00:52, 10 July 10
Don´t forget to think about Starstrike 2!
I have to admit that Starglider offers the richer gameplay, but the filled vectors of Starstrike 2 are outstanding.
Z80 at its best! :)
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Post by: Shredder11 on 01:16, 10 July 10
Ahhh yes I remember playing this and the other related releases like Tir Nag Nog and Marsport. I really liked Marsport and have fond memories of taking it to my uncles house to show him, while the new single by a~ha 'Take On Me' was playing from a cassette. Marsport had so much eerie atmosphere I thought and a little more depth in gameplay. The printed poster maps that came with those Gargoyle games were lovely too. Happy days...
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Post by: Leonie on 01:24, 10 July 10
Dear Shredder11,
you look like Freddie Mercury.
Do you want to break free?
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Post by: Pentagon on 11:47, 10 July 10
Hello,
me too, me too. I bought that record too and it's one of my most favorite Musicalbums since today. Well a good idea, listen to a-ha and play a round with Dun Daragh !
"IRIDI? - i am only a rat...."
Kindly Regards
Tom
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Post by: AMSDOS on 09:19, 13 August 10
While I cannot contribute towards the poll had I the opportunity I would have picked Light Force only cause it's a nicely presented for one of the really early CPC games though looks years apart from your blinkin' Plane in Harrier Attack! ;D
There's some other nice games in that list with the likes of Mr. Heli, X-OUT, Sonic Boom (is okay), Flying Shark is a better example of it & Silkworm. How on earth does a game like X-OUT only get 1 vote? And R-TYPE gets 5! ??? I've played P47 too, though I didn't find it all that challenging - Nice Graffixs though! ;D Anyone who wants a classic shooter which is missing from the list should have thrown in Space Harrier! ;D
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Post by: Gryzor on 09:32, 14 August 10
And what's your problem with R-Type, pal? :D
Light Force was superb, I could play it for hours on end without losing...
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Post by: AMSDOS on 10:41, 14 August 10
Gryzor wrote:
And what's your problem with R-Type, pal? :D
I must have been some sort of game whiz at those Side-on two dimensional shoot 'em ups cause I nearly completed it as fast as P47! :-[ X-OUT though is harder! ???
Light Force was superb, I could play it for hours on end without losing...
Another one I liked is Uridium (even if it's a bit on the Spectrum side), Zynaps is okay though is tatters on the Collision Front!
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Post by: mr_lou on 20:05, 25 August 10
I recently bought one of those joysticks you hook up to a TV. It's from Namco and contains Pacman, Digdug, Bosconian, Galaxian and Rally-X.
So for the first time ever I've been playing some Bosconian and think it's very addictive. Great game!
But Bosconian 87 for the CPC is no where near the same experience.
Is there any other Bosconian clone for the CPC besides Bosconian 87?
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Post by: ukmarkh on 14:05, 26 August 10
I've recently acquired one of those also, from a car boot for £2.50. Those games are great classics, but I think you're being a touch hard on the CPC version.
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Post by: mr_lou on 14:11, 26 August 10
It is the opinion of my girlfriend and me that the CPC version is no where near the same experience, and we're sticking with it.
Yesterday we also tried the C64 version, which also is no where near the same experience.
You may call us picky. That's ok. ;)
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Post by: ukmarkh on 14:37, 26 August 10
I'm sorry... but your comment has been rendered null /void! Never ask a girl her opinion when it comes to old video or computer games. Wii games yes, and only Wii ;)
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Post by: mr_lou on 16:50, 26 August 10
For your information, I didn't get myself a standard version of girlfriend. (I've seen what those does to a man).
Instead I got the complete-geeky girlfriend. You got the joystick yourself you say? So go ahead and beat her record on Bosconian: She reached level 12 and got 221.930 points. Come back when you've reached her level of geekiness. ;)
Another example that, I think, should make her opinions both valid and respected among all geeks:
Me: "I've got a great idea! Let's get an arcade machine!"
Her: "....where would we put it?"
Me pointing to the corner of the hall: "It can stand right there in the corner."
Her: ".....nah, I'd rather have it in the living room"
8)
P.S.: If Bosconian 87 was that great, how come it didn't score any points in this poll. You're down-voted ukmarkh. :)
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Post by: ukmarkh on 17:28, 26 August 10
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Post by: mr_lou on 18:19, 26 August 10
You're a poor looser. :)
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Post by: ukmarkh on 18:58, 26 August 10
Damn straight! That's why I never loose ;)
Just for the record, my wife threatend to leave me if I bought one more arcade cabinet... so I built a garage and spend most of my free time playing the classic originals. My mate nailed a sign above the door 'Gamers only' so she knows not to dare enter! 8)
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Post by: TomEtJerry on 00:39, 27 August 10
Hi,
I agree with Mr Lou (and his geeky girlfriend, how lucky you are :-) ), Bosconian has simply not interest on CPC and is nice on the retro joystick ! It was possible to do a better shooter on our machine (just look at Dead on time).
T&J/GPA
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Post by: mahlemiut on 01:36, 27 August 10
Probably not really fair doing a direct comparison with the arcade version of Bosconian, really, since I doubt it was intended to be a direct port, otherwise they wouldn't have added "'87" to the title. They added features like bombs and making the rear shot an upgrade you have to find (whose bright idea was that, anyway?), and those things you precision-park your ship into. Love the soundtrack on the CPC, though. :) Play the X68000 version if you want the original gameplay (and with a kick-ass soundtrack, also ;))
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Post by: ukmarkh on 13:24, 27 August 10
I'm not suggesting the CPC version was perfect by any means... but back in the day I enjoyed it. It was possible to progress and beat the game, the small playing window didn't help things, but it was just one of those things you had to look past on the CPC as most of the games used only a small part of the screen.
In terms of playability, it was pretty much the same game, and I heard that Namco gave Mastertronic the licence to make the game. I think too many people can't see past the graphics on the CPC, this is why R-Type comes in for so much stick. It's actually a great CPC game.
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Post by: mr_lou on 16:16, 29 August 10
Alright. Let's see proof that you can beat her new highscore:
428930 points, reached level 21.
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Post by: TFM on 23:38, 29 August 10
Ah... a Sony monitor... so tell us give us some informations... Which computer, which game, which cheat mode... and so on ;-)
BTW.: You're right with Bosconian on CPC, it's made like a poor basic game. The CPC could do so much better.
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Post by: mr_lou on 08:27, 30 August 10
It's just the Namco joystick you hook up to a TV.
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Post by: TFM on 01:35, 31 August 10
Got it! Quite impressive score - I think. But we guys can do better ;)
What do you mean with "You don't have a decade time to beat that highscore!". Hehehe!
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Post by: ukmarkh on 18:22, 31 August 10
This is a reply to your wife's earlier level 12 effort... it was my 2nd go and I basically rushed through without hardly shooting anything, I gave up in the end because of my short attention span, mind you it didn't help that taking the photo cost me two lives ;D . I will have another go soon and post a better score and higher level.
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Post by: Leonie on 20:45, 11 October 10
Marauder (Hewson) is a nice game.
The scrolling is soooo smooth!
Some kind of hardware-scroll?!
Does someone know more about the used scroll-routine?
And yeah.......great title-music...AND ingame-music...AND highscore-music, written by Dave Rodgers.
:P
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Post by: Xifos on 21:41, 21 October 10
I did not know marauder, and it's impressive.
I think it uses soft scrolling , 112*128 screen (wich means double buffer), maybe 17-25 fps (good).
The scroll has a nice parallax effect !
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Post by: sigh on 21:13, 07 December 10
I would of voted for X-Out
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Post by: einoeL on 22:29, 24 March 11
This one is gorgeous! :P
So cute!
Listen to the sound effects!
:)
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Post by: uncle_meat on 02:27, 14 June 11
has to be death stalker by codemasters for me!
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Post by: norecess on 14:43, 01 October 11
Best game for the CPC ? Just call me oldschool or not :
- Boulder Dash 3 (the one with living blobs)
- Commando
- Donkey Kong
..
Actually the ones we played and loved as a kid were finally the best. Gameplay was so addictive..
But one of my probably best game ever is Stunt Car Racer (any platforms). The only pity with this game is that there are only 4 tracks to play :-(
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Post by: Targhan on 21:04, 01 October 11
4 Tracks ? There should be 8 (if my memory serves right...), 2 per division. Anyway, great game indeed :).
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Post by: norecess on 21:37, 01 October 11
Hmm... I guess I should replay the game then. ;D
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Post by: DPG on 11:25, 06 December 11
My fave game was Striker by cult gamse, mainly because of how simple yet addictive it was. It had its limits and bugs, but being able to work your way from the bottom league up to playing in europe was lots of fun.
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Post by: khisanth on 19:41, 11 December 11
I quite liked that too. :)
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Post by: Gryzor on 09:41, 12 December 11
Can we add the R-Type remake? :)
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Post by: TFM on 23:09, 12 December 11
Sure, if there a download link. Anyone know any?
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Post by: Gryzor on 09:17, 16 December 11
Hey, what about that Bubble Bobble remake after all? :(
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Post by: TFM on 23:21, 16 December 11
Some guys (not me!) are doing final tests - all I know.
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Post by: mr_lou on 23:26, 16 December 11
I have been betatesting the new Bubble Bobble. But haven't heard from the developer after sending some feedback. Dunno what the status is.
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Post by: Gryzor on 11:35, 17 December 11
Is it good? :)
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Post by: khisanth on 17:02, 02 December 12
Newer than the new one that was out recently?!
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Post by: Gryzor on 17:28, 04 December 12
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Post by: khisanth on 22:14, 04 December 12
oh yeah :-[
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Post by: Gryzor on 13:42, 05 December 12
As you say, "retro all the way baby!". :D
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Post by: dcdrac on 20:27, 31 March 13
savage was amazing
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Post by: TFM on 20:44, 01 April 13
It still is. And also it is still too hard.
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Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 06:50, 13 April 13
Out of that list, I never understood why Forgotten Worlds didn't get more love. I thought it was great when i first played it in 89!
Might give it a blast now actually :)
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Post by: dcdrac on 00:59, 13 May 13
Just been playing Savage and the Sacred Armour of Antiriad again and it was these two games that I showed to people with a C64 to rpove that the CPC could outmatch it in the hands of a good developer team.
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Post by: Puresox on 23:45, 14 May 13
I must mention this game that I found on the CPC Power(now defunct), which i was really impressed with as it looks like it is just a type-in jobbie , but performs really well in the vain of Galaxians... It is called 'Alien Attack' and is well worth seeking out!I do not know where you would look for it now though?
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Post by: dcdrac on 00:41, 15 May 13
Just tried it and here is the Dsk file
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Post by: Puresox on 22:07, 17 May 13
Ahh well done. It's not a bad effort in my opinion, I do not know it's origins but it has got all the elements of a good galaxians clone!
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Post by: Gryzor on 12:55, 19 May 13
Definitely not bad! Looks older than '88, but very cute!
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Post by: Johnny Olsen on 18:45, 19 May 13
Yes it is a type-ins
http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Schneider_Computer_Partner_05-1989.jpg (http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Schneider_Computer_Partner_05-1989.jpg)
You can always try NVG which is a very good place to look for amstrad games.
ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/ (http://ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/)
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Post by: TFM on 21:51, 28 May 13
How cool is that! I'm still in the Highscore there! :laugh:
Greets to Mr. X!
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Post by: ukmarkh on 21:50, 02 November 13
I was just playing 'ChaseHQ'. There's lots of cars in the game, which got me wondering. Imagine if I could select the Ferrari instead of the Porsche, or the Lambo? Race the track in reverse, or change the colour of the car or play the robbers. Anyway, got me thinking, would a game like Gran Turismo be possible on the CPC?
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Post by: Gryzor on 19:54, 03 November 13
A very interesting point... Well, Chase HQ was not a pure racer where such a variety is more valued, and it had plenty of thrills anyway; but still, probably easy to do and it would have added to the marketing value of the title.
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Post by: WikiDan on 15:13, 12 July 17
That's a old classic game. I haven't seen of them for a long time. It's nice to get back to early '90. Well done
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Post by: BZHGames on 14:32, 03 April 19
My favorite game is Chuckie Egg.
I'm the best to this game on my web page :D
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Post by: CraigsBar on 22:58, 05 April 19
I am also with you on chuckie egg, although it gets crazy difficult on levels above 20 with the Big duck, the blue birds and the lifts.... Damn that is the stuff of nighmares!
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Post by: CraigsBar on 23:36, 05 April 19
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Post by: BZHGames on 15:43, 06 April 19
Hi CraigsBar,
I did not detect a slowdown. Which web browser do you use?
It's a shame that you did not send your score to enter the ranking. I like when there are records to beat. ;D
Right now, I'm trying to break the record on "Rick Dangerous", but I'm blocking at one place. :(
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Post by: CraigsBar on 18:35, 06 April 19
Opera Browser on Windows 7 (Core 2 Quad @ 3ghz)
There you go 117k on Chuckie egg today
A long way to go. but i'll be back!
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Post by: BZHGames on 19:58, 06 April 19
Ok, i haven't Opera Browser. I'll have to try.
Good score for Chuckie Egg ;)
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Post by: WiltshireWizard on 16:31, 08 March 20
Can't believe nobody has mentioned Easi-Amsword yet. The programming house, Juniper Computing, created a text adventure way ahead of its time, producing a parser that knew every word you threw at it, regardless of how it was spelled. The location descriptions were dynamically sparse which added to the neo-psychedlic groove to the whole experience.
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Post by: Gryzor on 18:06, 08 March 20
Hehe 😄
I loved Easi Amsword. It was the first word processor I ever used, before I knew what that meant. Used to type stuff in it just for fun as a kid...
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Post by: Carnivius on 11:33, 09 March 20
I used to make pictures in Easi-Amsword yeeears before I knew it was called ASCII Art because I was so desperate to create pictures on my CPC and didn't yet have a graphics program until I got Smart and G-Paint from Amstrad Action covertapes. :P
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Post by: zhulien on 07:53, 13 July 20
It's so hard to choose any 1 game as being best. Of all the ones there they are all fantastic - but some huge ommissions - games I loved and for most part still do:
- Oh Mummy
- Harvey Headbanger
- Donkey Kong
- Yie Ar Kung Fu
- Renegade
- Gauntlet (the arcade conversion)
- Defend or Die
- The Covenant
- 3D Star Strike
- Elite
- Starion
- Star Wars
- WEC Lemans
to name a few.
Worst titles ever:
- Braxx Bluff
Perhaps I will say Yie Ar Kung Fu is the best one... I got so good at it I could just play for hours on end in the same game - eventually the score turns into random graffiti.
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Post by: tjohnson on 10:31, 13 July 20
Defender clone or dungeon hack and slash game?
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Post by: zhulien on 15:51, 13 July 20
Dungeon one, not the defender one.
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Post by: zhulien on 15:46, 18 March 22
from that lot of games, there are quite a few really good games, quite a few stinkers and... I'd have to say that x-out or r-type (whichever version) would be the topmost, x-out is technically awesome, but even the original r-type the fact it's as good as it is on CPC still makes it technically awesome, and the easter egg version is even better - hard to pick from those two. Mr Hello would be second.
Question: what is the best game out of this selection?
Option 1: X-Out
votes: 1
Option 2: UN Squadron
votes: 1
Option 3: Mr Heli
votes: 1
Option 4: Mission Genocide
votes: 8
Option 5: Solar Coaster
votes: 0
Option 6: Classic Invaders
votes: 0
Option 7: R-Type
votes: 5
Option 8: Bosconian 87
votes: 0
Option 9: Game Over II
votes: 3
Option 10: Sonic boom
votes: 1
Option 11: Light force
votes: 5
Option 12: Flying shark
votes: 5
Option 13: P47
votes: 9
Option 14: Harrier Attack
votes: 4
Option 15: Xenon
votes: 0
Option 16: Silkworm
votes: 5
Option 17: Forgotten Worlds
votes: 3
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:36, 16 April 10
Post by: Devilmarkus on 14:37, 16 April 10
Post by: Gryzor on 15:08, 16 April 10
But it was a close call and a difficult choice between R-type, Light Force (which I had played to bits back in the day) and Flying Shark. Yes, I know FS is usually trashed, but I really loved it...
Why are you asking?
Post by: ukmarkh on 15:40, 16 April 10
Its a project for the book, I think you'll like it.
Post by: GFXOR on 15:49, 16 April 10
Post by: viddi on 16:08, 16 April 10
Post by: arnoldemu on 16:23, 16 April 10
why?
It's a good shooter, well presented, and nice graphics.
r-type has good playability, but I enjoyed p47 more.
mission genocide has really nice scrolling, but I found was very boring.
Post by: Cholo on 19:11, 17 April 10
Post by: mr_lou on 19:19, 17 April 10
Post by: Ritchardo on 22:23, 17 April 10
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:22, 18 April 10
Post by: TomEtJerry on 14:47, 18 April 10
I voted Flying shark. It is not technically the best shooter, but it's the only one I took pleasure to play with. Other ones are too slow or simply boring...
T&J/GPA
Post by: robcfg on 14:55, 18 April 10
It's has not the best graphics, it's not specially difficult, but it was super fun. And as you could play the two parts of the game very fast, that made it a superb game to play when you had very little time.
I still play it from time to time :laugh:
Post by: mr_lou on 18:53, 18 April 10
Can't find it on the NVG FTP.
Post by: Leonie on 19:23, 18 April 10
Mmmmh... ???
Post by: Nich on 19:38, 18 April 10
Quote from: mr_lou on 18:53, 18 April 10The URL is ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/games/arcade/p47.zip (http://ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/games/arcade/p47.zip).
I'm missing a link to the game P47.
Can't find it on the NVG FTP.
I voted for P-47 as well. :)
Post by: MacDeath on 19:53, 18 April 10
But where is Forgotten Worlds ? it was a freaking great game !
Post by: mr_lou on 22:54, 18 April 10
Smooth movement is important to me, and the minimalistic graphics are somehow charming. Mr.Heli has neat music, but the gameplay in Genocide is more exciting to me. Yes it does tend to get a little boring, but as levels progress it helps. I got to level 3 where things began to get quite interesting.
A lot of the games on the poll has very annoying sound effects that simply ruins the game experience in my opinion. And no matter how impressive graphics a game may have, chunky movement renders great graphics useless in my world.
Xout was also interesting though, but not quite enough.
I've never played Mission Genocide before, but as it looked amazingly much like a C64 game, we searched for a C64 version and found it. Then we played the game on both machines at the same time. They are 99% the same, but the sprites move smoother on the C64 (as they do most of the time), but overall a very neat Amstrad version.
Post by: mahlemiut on 00:50, 19 April 10
Post by: redbox on 14:45, 19 April 10
Post by: Doktor on 23:13, 20 April 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 19:53, 18 April 10
But where is Forgotten Worlds ? it was a freaking great game !
Thats true !
It was and still is one of my favorite CPC games... :D
Post by: ukmarkh on 17:29, 22 April 10
Post by: Leonie on 17:55, 22 April 10
Mr.Heli looks also great, quite similar to the Atari ST-Version.
But I vote for Mission Genocide, because it´s really fast and exciting, and super-smooth.
PS: Does someone like Zynaps?
Post by: robcfg on 18:53, 22 April 10
Post by: TFM on 22:14, 22 April 10
Quote from: robcfg on 18:53, 22 April 10
Zynaps had one of the best music I've ever heard on CPC!
This whole game is awesome, but in higher levels also awesome hard to play!
And... you don't need drugs any longer, just watch the menue screen ;-)
Post by: fano on 22:31, 22 April 10
Quote from: robcfg on 18:53, 22 April 10Dave Rogers (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=staff&lenom=DaveROGERS) rules (fanboy inside :P) and he made the music of this one (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=2239) too
Zynaps had one of the best music I've ever heard on CPC!
About Zynaps , it owns nice gfx but the handling of the ship is difficult with a bit of inertia and it is very difficult !
Post by: TFM on 23:33, 22 April 10
Post by: MacDeath on 18:34, 23 April 10
Post by: ukmarkh on 18:46, 23 April 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 18:34, 23 April 10
Yeah zynaps was awesome, I sometime think of it as the precursor of star sabre...
Shame about the god awful collision detection.
Post by: TFM on 22:10, 23 April 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 18:46, 23 April 10
Shame about the god awful collision detection.
Well, that's the invisible force fields of the other objects ;-) But you're right, it's sometimes a painted ass, ehhh pain in the ass. (Don't censor it! I learnt it from Ernest Borgnine)
Post by: Executioner on 12:51, 25 April 10
Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:52, 25 April 10
But then I also tried P47.
It's indeed a pretty cool game!
Post by: nurgle on 15:44, 26 April 10
Post by: cpc4eva on 20:04, 26 April 10
zynaps had some cool tunes and nice gfx but I felt it was a limited shooter and its lasting appeal was extremely short
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:10, 26 April 10
Quote from: cpc4eva on 20:04, 26 April 10
zynaps had some cool tunes and nice gfx but I felt it was a limited shooter and its lasting appeal was extremely short
Indeed, Zynaps has lousy level design in the first 2-3 stages.
Then, it becomes much better!
Then, it repeats the design.
And then, it's over *lol*
Post by: Leonie on 21:01, 26 April 10
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:10, 26 April 10
Indeed, Zynaps has lousy level design in the first 2-3 stages.
Then, it becomes much better!
Then, it repeats the design.
And then, it's over *lol*
Ich habe mal versucht, mit "Unendlich Leben" das Spiel endlich mal durchzuspielen, weil es ja so schwer ist.
Aber irgendwie fing irgendwann der ganze Quatsch wieder im ersten Level an.
Ich habe nie ein "Ende " gesehen! >:(
Post by: mr_lou on 21:09, 26 April 10
Quote from: cpc4eva on 20:04, 26 April 10
i've played all of them and im really suprised there is no vote for mr heli ??? ?
I'm surprised by that too.
Post by: Leonie on 21:11, 26 April 10
Quote from: fano on 22:31, 22 April 10
Dave Rogers (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=staff&lenom=DaveROGERS) rules (fanboy inside :P )
I love the Dave Rogers-tunes of "Stormlord" and "Cybernoid 2".
The tune of "Cybernoid 1" is a nice one too, it sounds like "ice cream and ballons".
The AY-Chip can put out some really good music.
Nobody needs a SID, the AY can give you all the sexual feelings you´re dreaming of.
AY-Chip rulez! :) :) :)
Post by: Leonie on 21:42, 26 April 10
Quote from: cpc4eva on 20:04, 26 April 10
i've played all of them and im really suprised there is no vote for mr heli ??? ?
Probably the "Mr. Heli-Sprite" looks too cute for real "Men Drivers".
I love the sprite of "Mr. Heli"! :)
It looks so fat, round and sweet!
The jolly tune of "Mr. Heli" is sweet as well!
Post by: robcfg on 00:39, 27 April 10
Quote from: Leonie on 21:01, 26 April 10
Ich habe mal versucht, mit "Unendlich Leben" das Spiel endlich mal durchzuspielen, weil es ja so schwer ist.
Aber irgendwie fing irgendwann der ganze Quatsch wieder im ersten Level an.
Ich habe nie ein "Ende " gesehen! >:(
Ich glaube bei die Spectrum version von Zynaps gibt ein ende aber nicht für Amstrad.
Or in plain english: I think that the Spectrum version of Zynaps has an end, the Amstrad version is an infinite loop.
Post by: Gryzor on 11:57, 27 April 10
Ευχαριστώ.
Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:01, 27 April 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:57, 27 April 10
Ευχαριστώ.
Ίσως θα πρέπει να ανοίξουμε ένα φόρουμ ελληνικά, πάρα πολύ.
No, really, we should keep the languages seperate.
That's why we made a German forum section.
It's of course no problem when a non English talking person posts in German, or also a non German talking person posts in English
when a thread is interesting.
But the most people here talk English, too, so they should keep posting in English then.
Post by: Bryce on 12:04, 27 April 10
Bryce.
Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:10, 27 April 10
Quote from: Bryce on 12:04, 27 April 10
I thought you might say that :D
Bryce.
Ninyi, wapenzi Bryce, lazima mimi jibu tu Kiswahili.
Post by: Axelay on 12:28, 27 April 10
Post by: ukmarkh on 12:35, 27 April 10
Mission Genocide on top eh? I can understand why, amazing scrolling, good graphics and a rock hard challenge... I thought the difficulty might have put some off, but good to see its a firm favourite.
Post by: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 12:35, 27 April 10I think maybe saying "which has the best playability" would have been a better question? I think technically mission genocide is good, but for playability it is boring. p47 however is good fun and is the one I voted for.
I always thought Forgotten Worlds was an average conversion of a quality arcade game on the amstrad CPC, too slow compared to the other versions. I can't understand how Mr Heli is trailing behind, that was an excellent shooter, and i'm massively suprised at the lack of love for X-Out.
Mission Genocide on top eh? I can understand why, amazing scrolling, good graphics and a rock hard challenge... I thought the difficulty might have put some off, but good to see its a firm favourite.
mr.heli is also good fun, but I liked p47 more.
I always thought Forgotten Worlds was slow...
X-Out never really appealed to me.
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:29, 27 April 10
Quote from: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10
I think maybe saying "which has the best playability" would have been a better question?
I don't see your point, the best game would include the best playability... ka
Quote from: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10
I think technically mission genocide is good, but for playability it is boring. p47 however is good fun and is the one I voted for.
Not according to the poll... Mission Genocide was the bomb. P47 didn't have very good enemy movement, the enemy basically came straight at you. Predicatable and a little boring, and it pissed me right off that the game just loops at the end. Wasn't that impressed, graphically its good.
Quote from: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10
mr.heli is also good fun, but I liked p47 more.
Each to their own, but your wrong ;)
Quote from: arnoldemu on 13:33, 27 April 10I always thought Forgotten Worlds was slow...
X-Out never really appealed to me.
Half right :P
Post by: MacDeath on 19:55, 27 April 10
X-Out or Mr.Heli or P47... we hadn't them in Valence (no cracked version was shared) so it has no influence on my youth.
Also, forgotten world had it's speed running irregulary, but it was so much fun because of the coin-op 2up player option.
It was a good memory for be because I coulkd share agood moment with by big brother instead of just seeing him play (he was sort of aselfish bitch sometimes.. >:( )
The same with Silkworm (my vote) : it was a shared experience.
Post by: ukmarkh on 22:41, 27 April 10
Post by: mr_lou on 13:11, 30 April 10
Interestingly, as it looks a lot like a C64 game, I thought it was ported from the C64. Surely enough there is a C64 version as well, so I assumed I was right.
But later, when searching for a synopsis about the game, I found an interview with the author online somewhere, in which he says that all this games originated on the CPC - so it's actually the C64 version of Genocide which is a port from the CPC.
I'd like a CPC version of Genocide with cheat though, so I can see all the levels. :)
Currently only the C64 version has cheat, but I'm not playing on the C64... 8)
Post by: Axelay on 13:29, 30 April 10
Quote from: mr_lou on 13:11, 30 April 10
I'd like a CPC version of Genocide with cheat though, so I can see all the levels. :)
The CPC version you get off TACGR has an infinite lives poke.
Post by: ukmarkh on 17:15, 30 April 10
Quote from: mr_lou on 13:11, 30 April 10
I never played over half those games on the poll, including Mission Genocide. But I tried them all before voting, and went with Genocide.
Interestingly, as it looks a lot like a C64 game, I thought it was ported from the C64. Surely enough there is a C64 version as well, so I assumed I was right.
But later, when searching for a synopsis about the game, I found an interview with the author online somewhere, in which he says that all this games originated on the CPC - so it's actually the C64 version of Genocide which is a port from the CPC.
I'd like a CPC version of Genocide with cheat though, so I can see all the levels. :)
Currently only the C64 version has cheat, but I'm not playing on the C64... 8)
You won't have the same appreciation for Genocide if you cheat your way through. Just needs a bit of practice is all. The first time I completed it, I was like how bloody good was that, but yes it's hard. I can complete on pretty much every other go.
Post by: ukmarkh on 17:17, 30 April 10
Quote from: Axelay on 13:29, 30 April 10
The CPC version you get off TACGR has an infinite lives poke.
Hi Axe, any chance you could release an ultimate edition of Star Sabre? It needs to be a little tougher, completed it several times now but wish I could up the difficulty a notch.
Post by: mr_lou on 17:48, 30 April 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 17:15, 30 April 10I can complete on pretty much every other go.
Yea, but you're also the dude who completed Star Sabre in 3 days, and I still can't get past the 2nd level. (And I only get past 1st level sometimes!)
Post by: ukmarkh on 19:34, 30 April 10
Post by: Axelay on 15:28, 02 May 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 17:17, 30 April 10
Hi Axe, any chance you could release an ultimate edition of Star Sabre? It needs to be a little tougher, completed it several times now but wish I could up the difficulty a notch.
I'm afraid I'm not keen to revisit past projects like that, it takes time away from working on ideas and code for new projects. There's a pretty good chance of a difficulty level option appearing in future projects though!
Post by: Leonie on 16:35, 10 May 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 19:34, 30 April 10
I could never understand why they didn't build games around all levels of difficulty... i.e. easy, medium or hard.
I don´t like levels of difficulty.
The game is the game.
You have to get along with it.
This is the challenge.
Post by: ukmarkh on 16:55, 10 May 10
Quote from: Leonie on 16:35, 10 May 10
I don´t like levels of difficulty.
The game is the game.
You have to get along with it.
This is the challenge.
Totally disagree... it prolongs the life of a game, I find some games way too easy, hence no challenge, and wished I could up the anti. On the other hand I've games from 20 years ago that I'm unable to beat because they are way too hard. Dude, everyone's skill level is different, this option should have been, and hopefully will be included in future CPC releases. I'd also like to see new games take advantage of the two button controller; this would breathe even more life and longevity into new games. Probably dreaming now, but network connectivity aware co-op gaming for the CPC?
Post by: arnoldemu on 17:02, 10 May 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 16:55, 10 May 10Adding difficulty levels is more work, and more data, so it's not easy to fit it all in.
Totally disagree... it prolongs the life of a game, I find some games way too easy, hence no challenge, and wished I could up the anti. On the other hand I've games from 20 years ago that I'm unable to beat because they are way too hard. Dude, everyone's skill level is different, this option should have been, and hopefully will be included in future CPC releases. I'd also like to see new games take advantage of the two button controller; this would breathe even more life and longevity into new games. Probably dreaming now, but network connectivity aware co-op gaming for the CPC?
But I will consider your comments for my future games.
Your dream will have to stay a dream unless somebody makes an ethernet card for cpc ;)
Post by: Leonie on 17:17, 10 May 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 16:55, 10 May 10
Totally disagree... it prolongs the life of a game, I find some games way too easy, hence no challenge, and wished I could up the anti.
This is an attribute of a great game with great gameplay:
It´s difficult, but not unfair, so you have the chance to learn how to play and finish it.
In this case you don´t need levels of difficulty.
Post by: ukmarkh on 18:01, 10 May 10
Quote from: Leonie on 17:17, 10 May 10
This is an attribute of a great game with great gameplay:
It´s difficult, but not unfair, so you have the chance to learn how to play and finish it.
In this case you don´t need levels of difficulty.
In the case of games such as R-Type, they got the balance just right... but sadly in many games I've played over the years, the judgment and balance have been slightly off. And many programmers themselves have admitted to this. For instance 'Contra' on the NES, probably the most difficult game on earth, will hand you your arse over and over. In fact not many people have ever completed the game, and try as you may; I bet not many ever will either, Battle Toads is another classic example.
I believe it's one of the reasons the Dreamcast is loved so much, many of its games, especially the shoot-em-ups came with multitudes of choice, and therefore if experienced, made its games accessible to many gamers. If the gamer felt up to it, an ultimate difficulty was there for the taking.
Maybe, it's just me... but I'd prefer the choice in my games.
Post by: mr_lou on 22:09, 10 May 10
Just want to say that I'm with you ukmarkh! ;)
But judging from our online highscores from our game Ukko's Journey (http://www.ukkosjourney.com), it looks like most people never notice the option. :-X
81% of the uploaded highscores are from normal difficulty. 16% easy mode, and 3% hard mode. Based on those stats, I agree with arnoldemu that it's too much work compared to how much it's actually used... (or else I can pretend we just happened to find the correct difficulty for the majority... ::) )
I'll probably keep implementing 3 difficulty-modes anyway though... :)
Post by: nurgle on 03:07, 11 May 10
Quote from: arnoldemu on 17:02, 10 May 10
Your dream will have to stay a dream unless somebody makes an ethernet card for cpc ;)
www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Virtual_Net_96 (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Virtual_Net_96)
Post by: Gryzor on 12:38, 11 May 10
Meanwhile... P47 better than R-Type???!!!!!
Post by: ukmarkh on 16:57, 11 May 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 12:38, 11 May 10
Meanwhile... P47 better than R-Type???!!!!!
I know? I think the people that voted for P47 are just graphic hoares, who don't care about game-play, just how good a game looks. ;)
Post by: Leonie on 15:54, 12 May 10
Post by: cpc4eva on 23:47, 14 May 10
Quote from: Leonie on 15:54, 12 May 10
"Flying Shark" is one of the Mode 1-games that looks quite good.
it was way too slow and i thought it was a poor conversion to cpc
Post by: ukmarkh on 23:50, 14 May 10
Quote from: cpc4eva on 23:47, 14 May 10
it was way too slow and i thought it was a poor conversion to cpc
Hi ya chap, what game did you vote for if you don't mind me asking?
Post by: Leonie on 23:56, 14 May 10
Quote from: cpc4eva on 23:47, 14 May 10
it was way too slow and i thought it was a poor conversion to cpc
You´re right. It is slow and not very enjoyable, but the detailed graphic looks good for Mode1. The colours are well-chosen.
Post by: MacDeath on 18:06, 15 May 10
But, well, only need a little speed boost.
The major issue is the colour of the bullets.
It sometimes mix so much with the background you can't see them that well.
perhaps if those could have flickering colours (alternate between 2 colours...)
Also perhaps the sprites are a bit less coloured than they could.
If the background's tiles are properly re-done form the speccy, the sprites are not (still in 2 colours).
And colours could have been a bit betterly choosen.
Exemple : 1st level :
yellow + orange + light green + black.
3 colours "containning" Yellow... no wonder you can't see the bullet.
Perhaps getting the light yellow in White may be better.
Or something like that.
But the 27 colours palette from old CPC is actually not that easy to work with.
Really unbalanced, it can be great for some sutff, and bad for some others.
Post by: Leonie on 21:20, 15 May 10
The colours of the landscape are well-chosen. It looks good, not like a spectrum port.
But yes, the sprites, especially the bullets, could really use some extra colours.
But as we know, there are only 4 colours in Mode 1... :'(
The scrolling is without hurry but very smooth.
However, Ikari Warriors is faster and also smooth, isn´t it?
EDIT: The music of Flying Shark could be a lot better. The AY is more than a beeper!
Post by: Leonie on 21:25, 15 May 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 18:06, 15 May 10
But the 27 colours palette from old CPC is actually not that easy to work with.
Really unbalanced, it can be great for some stuff, and bad for some others.
Are you crazy?
The colours of the CPC are sooo lovely, romantic, bold.....just wonderful!
Post by: MacDeath on 22:17, 15 May 10
27 colours is far more than what a Speccy or C64 can offer.
And as I said it's a bit unbalanced.
Lack of Greys (only one...) and proper "Browns" (Dark red is not a real brown, nor is the Orange...) actually.
This means you can't get reallistic stuff (wood or stone) or Grim and Gritty ambiances...
I always say that if the CPC did have the 32 colours it could actually handle, with let's say +2 greys (light and dark), + 3 Browns (light, medium and dark) it could have change a lot of thing.
But the Colours were generated strangely with a 3 level for each RGB... 3 levels, not even bits...
I don't know if +5 custom colours could have been added to those.
The C64 palette used only custom colours.
And perhaps such custom colours were not possible in a Gate Array, or could have cost too much to produce, or whatever....
But the colourfull chatoyance of the numerous blues, Purples, the sweet Yeelow-orange or Yellow-green gradiants, the nice Red gradient too...
Simply excellent for colourfull stuff, cartoon like style, Fantasy/Heroic fantasy, space galaxies and so on...
And this lack of some kind of colours is not that a big deal when your are in a 4 colours mode...
but many great games in Mode0 managed to make the CPC one of the best computer of its time in term of graphics (compared to C64 and Speccy mostly...)
Barbarian is simply as good as on 16 bit IMO while Speccy or C64 are inferior in graphics.
Spanish games were always awesome and proper intro pages on CPC could really kick serious asses.
(Gabrielle..dynamic games, some french games too...)
Post by: Leonie on 22:39, 15 May 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 22:17, 15 May 10
Simply excellent for colourfull stuff, cartoon like style, Fantasy/Heroic fantasy, space galaxies and so on...
Games like "Purple Saturn Day" or "Captain Blood" are wonderful to look at as well as the countless french adventures with theirs absolut amazing graphics. (the French really knew how to draw arts on the Amstrad). Sadly my french is confined to "Moi je m'appelle Lolita ". :'(
Post by: cpc4eva on 01:08, 16 May 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 18:06, 15 May 10Flying Shark is not THAT slow... the animation also is smooth and quite constant if I remember well.
But, well, only need a little speed boost.
The major issue is the colour of the bullets.
It sometimes mix so much with the background you can't see them that well.
perhaps if those could have flickering colours (alternate between 2 colours...)
Also perhaps the sprites are a bit less coloured than they could.
If the background's tiles are properly re-done form the speccy, the sprites are not (still in 2 colours).
And colours could have been a bit betterly choosen.
Exemple : 1st level :
yellow + orange + light green + black.
3 colours "containning" Yellow... no wonder you can't see the bullet.
Perhaps getting the light yellow in White may be better.
Or something like that.
But the 27 colours palette from old CPC is actually not that easy to work with.
Really unbalanced, it can be great for some sutff, and bad for some others.
flying shark's colours were poorly chosen. i would have liked to seen flying shark in mode 0. as you mentioned the bullet sprite was hard to see and that was only one flaw of the conversion to cpc.
but i still think its rather slow.... what gets me puzzled is that afterburner was a lovely colourful fast and smooth with clear sprites and movement and no problem seeing the bullets many agree it was the best 8 bit conversion in comparison to the speccy and c64 and yet flying shark is the complete opposite to afterburner..... possible answer is that firebird released flying shark and ocean released afterburner on cpc.
Quote from: MacDeath on 22:17, 15 May 10I know it's a good palette for a 1984's computer...
27 colours is far more than what a Speccy or C64 can offer.
And as I said it's a bit unbalanced.
Lack of Greys (only one...) and proper "Browns" (Dark red is not a real brown, nor is the Orange...) actually.
This means you can't get reallistic stuff (wood or stone) or Grim and Gritty ambiances...
I always say that if the CPC did have the 32 colours it could actually handle, with let's say +2 greys (light and dark), + 3 Browns (light, medium and dark) it could have change a lot of thing.
But the Colours were generated strangely with a 3 level for each RGB... 3 levels, not even bits...
I don't know if +5 custom colours could have been added to those.
a cpc with 32 colours would have made it very interesting i couldnt agree more. there was lack of greys and browns and at times lack of grim and grittyness graphically.
but why have 3 modes ? that always bugged me about the cpc it felt so limited in that area. would it have been possible to have better GFX modes than the 3 it had ?
mode 1 would have been better with atleast 10 colours and not 4.
mode 2 was really annoying only ever used for serious applications like wordprocessing etc
mode 0 lovely colour but usually meant GFX were blocky and movement slow
Quote from: Leonie on 22:39, 15 May 10
Sadly my french is confined to "Moi je m'appelle Lolita ". :'(
my french is confined to math le math le difficile :(
Post by: MacDeath on 14:22, 17 May 10
Quotemath le math le difficile??? not that much french actually, or yep you really must be bad at french... ;D
QuoteSadly my french is confined to "Moi je m'appelle Lolita ".Really ? then French perception outside France has changed, in before, it was "voulez vous coucher avec moi" the most famous french phrase... :P
Back to topic.
Quotea cpc with 32 colours would have made it very interesting i couldnt agree more. there was lack of greys and browns and at times lack of grim and grittyness graphically.To me the main limitation comes from the way CRTC and Gate array communicate/work together.
but why have 3 modes ? that always bugged me about the cpc it felt so limited in that area. would it have been possible to have better GFX modes than the 3 it had ?
mode 1 would have been better with atleast 10 colours and not 4.
mode 2 was really annoying only ever used for serious applications like wordprocessing etc
mode 0 lovely colour but usually meant GFX were blocky and movement slow
The Video System on CPC can't overclock in order to get square pixels in 16 colour modes per exemple...
(Of course this would mean 2x time the amount of video ram).
Also, getting 5 colours is simply impossible until it were coded quite differently.
Yet : we have 1 bit code (Mode2), 2 bit code (Mode1) and 4 bit code (mode0...).
Perhaps some modes in 3 bits (8 colours) or 5 bits (32 colours...) could have been fun... if only a little overclock available in CRTC-GateArray relation.
Also As I told, I don't even know if this could have been possible to put those 5 extra colours in the palette because I don't really know the possibilities of a gate Array (it's some kind of customisable chip...).
CRTC+Gate array is an unusual Video solution actually.
And we have to remember that EGA graphic cards on PC were released in 1984-1985 only...
If only Amstrad did something like a EGA on CPC instead of a CGA...
What made the graphical modes lacking flexibility IMO was the fact we had no real Video Ram as on MSX per exemple because CPC wasn't designed as a 128K computer...
Or an optionnal "character Attribute" system could have been well mixed with the CPC video...to get decent multimode or multi palette screens...
(like, each character with a choice between 2 or even mode ink settings...)
the Palette system allows 16 colours as ink (because of mode0) + 1 border...
So 12 colours ink slots are unused in Mode1 and 14 unused in Mode2...
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:48, 17 May 10
The video hardware takes each byte and shifts it by 1 bit per clock.
Then based on mode it masks out the bits, and finally this makes a pen index.
The pen index is then used to get the colour that has been programmed.
With this method it only makes sense to have 1,2, 4 or 8 bits per pixel.
Shame we never got 8 bits per pixel :(
Of course because the clock is always the same, and to ensure all modes take the same area, they update the shift ever x clocks depending on mode too.
If you had different video clock you would get different sized pixels.
Overclocking is possible, but the gate-array generates timing for the z80. why? because gate-array needs access to ram when it needs it. If gate-array didn't have priority then the picture would not be stable. So they decided to always make the gate-array have priority at all times and for all ram, so all ram has the same timings.
It would be possible to have 3 bits per pixel or 5 bit per pixel, but you would have to decode 2 bytes at a time, or loose some bits in the byte. And then you need to decide how wide each pixel will be. Too small, and you loose hsync/vsync timing too.
An attribute mode would have been interesting.
I think what you are talking about is the video hardware of the enterprise computer.
It has all that you describe.
The colours: They are probably generated by taking the bit patterns in the number and deciding the r,g,b from these.
some of the possibilities are duplicates, and in this case it would have been nice to add in some needed colours (greys, browns and some other useful colours), but of course keeping all other colours in there too ;)
Post by: MacDeath on 15:24, 17 May 10
Quote8 bits per pixelHow to get 256colours out of a 27 palette ???
But hey, a mode0 in 256colours on PLUS would kickass.
Also this could have been possible on Atari ST (with its palette of 512...and its CPC like video modes but in 32K instead of 16K...They really passed beside this.
QuoteYes, this one was actually a crossbreed between the CPC and the Speccy...
I think what you are talking about is the video hardware of the enterprise computer.
But we'll have to remember CPC464 was Amstrad's first try in computers...This could have been even worse.
just too bad they didn't used more of their IBM PC compatible experience on the PLUS range...
Post by: Shredder11 on 20:04, 09 July 10
Post by: Shredder11 on 20:07, 09 July 10
Quote from: robcfg on 18:53, 22 April 10
Zynaps had one of the best music I've ever heard on CPC!
One of my favourites and yes the music is brilliant, although the collision detection during the game was frustrating. Great game though!
Post by: TFM on 20:30, 09 July 10
Quote from: Shredder11 on 20:07, 09 July 10
One of my favourites and yes the music is brilliant, although the collision detection during the game was frustrating. Great game though!
I heart the thing with the collision detection a 1000 times ;-) And yes, it's so true! But a great game anyway.
... at the moment I'm thinking about Starglider - one of my favorite games - how would it look like in an 128 KB version?
Post by: Pentagon on 00:47, 10 July 10
Its a good game and worth to play. The Vector graphics is well done and its so much faster then the 64er Version. BTW: Did you knew that you can shoot on a Atari Logo in some versions and at the atari system on a commodore logo etc.?
when i am done with mercenary i wanted to try "Dun Daragh" again. The animation and the flying hair of that dude is so cool. "IRIDI?"
Kindly Regards
Tom / Pentagon
Post by: Leonie on 00:52, 10 July 10
Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:30, 09 July 10
... at the moment I'm thinking about Starglider - one of my favorite games - how would it look like in an 128 KB version?
Don´t forget to think about Starstrike 2!
I have to admit that Starglider offers the richer gameplay, but the filled vectors of Starstrike 2 are outstanding.
Z80 at its best! :)
Post by: Shredder11 on 01:16, 10 July 10
Quote from: Pentagon on 00:47, 10 July 10
I wanted to try "Dun Daragh" again. The animation and the flying hair of that dude is so cool. "IRIDI?"
Ahhh yes I remember playing this and the other related releases like Tir Nag Nog and Marsport. I really liked Marsport and have fond memories of taking it to my uncles house to show him, while the new single by a~ha 'Take On Me' was playing from a cassette. Marsport had so much eerie atmosphere I thought and a little more depth in gameplay. The printed poster maps that came with those Gargoyle games were lovely too. Happy days...
Post by: Leonie on 01:24, 10 July 10
you look like Freddie Mercury.
Do you want to break free?
Post by: Pentagon on 11:47, 10 July 10
QuoteI really liked Marsport and have fond memories of taking it to my uncles house to show him, while the new single by a~ha 'Take On Me' was playing from a cassette.
Hello,
me too, me too. I bought that record too and it's one of my most favorite Musicalbums since today. Well a good idea, listen to a-ha and play a round with Dun Daragh !
"IRIDI? - i am only a rat...."
Kindly Regards
Tom
Post by: AMSDOS on 09:19, 13 August 10
There's some other nice games in that list with the likes of Mr. Heli, X-OUT, Sonic Boom (is okay), Flying Shark is a better example of it & Silkworm. How on earth does a game like X-OUT only get 1 vote? And R-TYPE gets 5! ??? I've played P47 too, though I didn't find it all that challenging - Nice Graffixs though! ;D Anyone who wants a classic shooter which is missing from the list should have thrown in Space Harrier! ;D
Post by: Gryzor on 09:32, 14 August 10
Light Force was superb, I could play it for hours on end without losing...
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:41, 14 August 10
And what's your problem with R-Type, pal? :D
I must have been some sort of game whiz at those Side-on two dimensional shoot 'em ups cause I nearly completed it as fast as P47! :-[ X-OUT though is harder! ???
Light Force was superb, I could play it for hours on end without losing...
Another one I liked is Uridium (even if it's a bit on the Spectrum side), Zynaps is okay though is tatters on the Collision Front!
Post by: mr_lou on 20:05, 25 August 10
So for the first time ever I've been playing some Bosconian and think it's very addictive. Great game!
But Bosconian 87 for the CPC is no where near the same experience.
Is there any other Bosconian clone for the CPC besides Bosconian 87?
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:05, 26 August 10
Post by: mr_lou on 14:11, 26 August 10
Yesterday we also tried the C64 version, which also is no where near the same experience.
You may call us picky. That's ok. ;)
Post by: ukmarkh on 14:37, 26 August 10
Post by: mr_lou on 16:50, 26 August 10
Instead I got the complete-geeky girlfriend. You got the joystick yourself you say? So go ahead and beat her record on Bosconian: She reached level 12 and got 221.930 points. Come back when you've reached her level of geekiness. ;)
Another example that, I think, should make her opinions both valid and respected among all geeks:
Me: "I've got a great idea! Let's get an arcade machine!"
Her: "....where would we put it?"
Me pointing to the corner of the hall: "It can stand right there in the corner."
Her: ".....nah, I'd rather have it in the living room"
8)
P.S.: If Bosconian 87 was that great, how come it didn't score any points in this poll. You're down-voted ukmarkh. :)
Post by: ukmarkh on 17:28, 26 August 10
Quote from: mr_lou on 16:50, 26 August 10
For your information, I didn't get myself a standard version of girlfriend. (I've seen what those does to a man).
QuoteIn other words she's ugly... and a van or lorry driver ;)
Instead I got the complete-geeky girlfriend. You got the joystick yourself you say? So go ahead and beat her record on Bosconian: She reached level 12 and got 221.930 points. Come back when you've reached her level of geekiness. ;)
QuoteRecord smeckord, the only game a girl will ever beat me at is Barbie! Or dressing up! Barge poles, and all that. :D
Another example that, I think, should make her opinions both valid and respected among all geeks:
Me: "I've got a great idea! Let's get an arcade machine!"
Her: "....where would we put it?"
Me pointing to the corner of the hall: "It can stand right there in the corner."
Her: ".....nah, I'd rather have it in the living room"
8)
QuoteAre you sure you haven't married a bloke? :-X
P.S.: If Bosconian 87 was that great, how come it didn't score any points in this poll. You're down-voted ukmarkh. :)
QuoteA bad game you hate, a good game I love... simples. I imagine it wasn't first peoples choice, wasn't mine either. Doesn't make it a bad game.
Post by: mr_lou on 18:19, 26 August 10
Post by: ukmarkh on 18:58, 26 August 10
Just for the record, my wife threatend to leave me if I bought one more arcade cabinet... so I built a garage and spend most of my free time playing the classic originals. My mate nailed a sign above the door 'Gamers only' so she knows not to dare enter! 8)
Post by: TomEtJerry on 00:39, 27 August 10
I agree with Mr Lou (and his geeky girlfriend, how lucky you are :-) ), Bosconian has simply not interest on CPC and is nice on the retro joystick ! It was possible to do a better shooter on our machine (just look at Dead on time).
T&J/GPA
Post by: mahlemiut on 01:36, 27 August 10
Post by: ukmarkh on 13:24, 27 August 10
In terms of playability, it was pretty much the same game, and I heard that Namco gave Mastertronic the licence to make the game. I think too many people can't see past the graphics on the CPC, this is why R-Type comes in for so much stick. It's actually a great CPC game.
Post by: mr_lou on 16:16, 29 August 10
Quote from: ukmarkh on 17:28, 26 August 10
Record smeckord, the only game a girl will ever beat me at is Barbie! Or dressing up! Barge poles, and all that.
Alright. Let's see proof that you can beat her new highscore:
428930 points, reached level 21.
Post by: TFM on 23:38, 29 August 10
BTW.: You're right with Bosconian on CPC, it's made like a poor basic game. The CPC could do so much better.
Post by: mr_lou on 08:27, 30 August 10
Quote from: TFM/FS on 23:38, 29 August 10
Ah... a Sony monitor... so tell us give us some informations... Which computer, which game, which cheat mode... and so on ;-)
It's just the Namco joystick you hook up to a TV.
Post by: TFM on 01:35, 31 August 10
Quote from: mr_lou on 08:27, 30 August 10
It's just the Namco joystick you hook up to a TV.
Got it! Quite impressive score - I think. But we guys can do better ;)
What do you mean with "You don't have a decade time to beat that highscore!". Hehehe!
Post by: ukmarkh on 18:22, 31 August 10
Post by: Leonie on 20:45, 11 October 10
The scrolling is soooo smooth!
Some kind of hardware-scroll?!
Does someone know more about the used scroll-routine?
And yeah.......great title-music...AND ingame-music...AND highscore-music, written by Dave Rodgers.
:P
Post by: Xifos on 21:41, 21 October 10
I think it uses soft scrolling , 112*128 screen (wich means double buffer), maybe 17-25 fps (good).
The scroll has a nice parallax effect !
Post by: sigh on 21:13, 07 December 10
Post by: einoeL on 22:29, 24 March 11
So cute!
Listen to the sound effects!
:)
Post by: uncle_meat on 02:27, 14 June 11
Post by: norecess on 14:43, 01 October 11
- Boulder Dash 3 (the one with living blobs)
- Commando
- Donkey Kong
..
Actually the ones we played and loved as a kid were finally the best. Gameplay was so addictive..
But one of my probably best game ever is Stunt Car Racer (any platforms). The only pity with this game is that there are only 4 tracks to play :-(
Post by: Targhan on 21:04, 01 October 11
Post by: norecess on 21:37, 01 October 11
Post by: DPG on 11:25, 06 December 11
Post by: khisanth on 19:41, 11 December 11
Quote from: uncle_meat on 02:27, 14 June 11
has to be death stalker by codemasters for me!
I quite liked that too. :)
Post by: Gryzor on 09:41, 12 December 11
Post by: TFM on 23:09, 12 December 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:41, 12 December 11
Can we add the R-Type remake? :)
Sure, if there a download link. Anyone know any?
Post by: Gryzor on 09:17, 16 December 11
Quote from: TFM/FS on 23:09, 12 December 11Not yet, I expect soon...
Sure, if there a download link. Anyone know any?
Hey, what about that Bubble Bobble remake after all? :(
Post by: TFM on 23:21, 16 December 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:17, 16 December 11
Not yet, I expect soon...
Hey, what about that Bubble Bobble remake after all? :(
Some guys (not me!) are doing final tests - all I know.
Post by: mr_lou on 23:26, 16 December 11
Post by: Gryzor on 11:35, 17 December 11
Post by: khisanth on 17:02, 02 December 12
Post by: Gryzor on 17:28, 04 December 12
Quote from: khisanthNewer than the new one that was out recently?!Check the dates of the previous posts mate :D
Post by: khisanth on 22:14, 04 December 12
Post by: Gryzor on 13:42, 05 December 12
Post by: dcdrac on 20:27, 31 March 13
Post by: TFM on 20:44, 01 April 13
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 06:50, 13 April 13
Might give it a blast now actually :)
Post by: dcdrac on 00:59, 13 May 13
Post by: Puresox on 23:45, 14 May 13
Post by: dcdrac on 00:41, 15 May 13
Post by: Puresox on 22:07, 17 May 13
Post by: Gryzor on 12:55, 19 May 13
Post by: Johnny Olsen on 18:45, 19 May 13
Quote from: Puresox on 23:45, 14 May 13
I must mention this game that I found on the CPC Power(now defunct), which i was really impressed with as it looks like it is just a type-in jobbie , but performs really well in the vain of Galaxians... It is called 'Alien Attack' and is well worth seeking out!I do not know where you would look for it now though?
Yes it is a type-ins
http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Schneider_Computer_Partner_05-1989.jpg (http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Schneider_Computer_Partner_05-1989.jpg)
You can always try NVG which is a very good place to look for amstrad games.
ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/ (http://ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/cpc/)
Post by: TFM on 21:51, 28 May 13
Quote from: dcdrac on 00:41, 15 May 13
Just tried it and here is the Dsk file
How cool is that! I'm still in the Highscore there! :laugh:
Greets to Mr. X!
Post by: ukmarkh on 21:50, 02 November 13
Post by: Gryzor on 19:54, 03 November 13
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Post by: BZHGames on 14:32, 03 April 19
I'm the best to this game on my web page :D
Post by: CraigsBar on 22:58, 05 April 19
Quote from: BZHGames on 14:32, 03 April 19I love the way long dead threadws can be opened up and re-invigorated in this forum.
My favorite game is Chuckie Egg.
I'm the best to this game on my web page :D
I am also with you on chuckie egg, although it gets crazy difficult on levels above 20 with the Big duck, the blue birds and the lifts.... Damn that is the stuff of nighmares!
Post by: CraigsBar on 23:36, 05 April 19
Quote from: BZHGames on 14:32, 03 April 19I'd love to beat you on your own website, but I find the controls are just a little too laggy on your emulator :( Always the problem with web based emulator I find. It takes a while to adjust the jumping reactions and that then throws off the timing when playing on the real hardware. Thanks for the games tho, best I managed this evening (on your site) was 97k
My favorite game is Chuckie Egg.
I'm the best to this game on my web page :D
Post by: BZHGames on 15:43, 06 April 19
Quote from: CraigsBar on 23:36, 05 April 19
I'd love to beat you on your own website, but I find the controls are just a little too laggy on your emulator :( Always the problem with web based emulator I find. It takes a while to adjust the jumping reactions and that then throws off the timing when playing on the real hardware. Thanks for the games tho, best I managed this evening (on your site) was 97k
Hi CraigsBar,
I did not detect a slowdown. Which web browser do you use?
It's a shame that you did not send your score to enter the ranking. I like when there are records to beat. ;D
Right now, I'm trying to break the record on "Rick Dangerous", but I'm blocking at one place. :(
Post by: CraigsBar on 18:35, 06 April 19
Opera Browser on Windows 7 (Core 2 Quad @ 3ghz)
There you go 117k on Chuckie egg today
A long way to go. but i'll be back!
Post by: BZHGames on 19:58, 06 April 19
Quote from: CraigsBar on 18:35, 06 April 19
Opera Browser on Windows 7 (Core 2 Quad @ 3ghz)
There you go 117k on Chuckie egg today
A long way to go. but i'll be back!
Ok, i haven't Opera Browser. I'll have to try.
Good score for Chuckie Egg ;)
Post by: WiltshireWizard on 16:31, 08 March 20
Post by: Gryzor on 18:06, 08 March 20
I loved Easi Amsword. It was the first word processor I ever used, before I knew what that meant. Used to type stuff in it just for fun as a kid...
Post by: Carnivius on 11:33, 09 March 20
Post by: zhulien on 07:53, 13 July 20
- Oh Mummy
- Harvey Headbanger
- Donkey Kong
- Yie Ar Kung Fu
- Renegade
- Gauntlet (the arcade conversion)
- Defend or Die
- The Covenant
- 3D Star Strike
- Elite
- Starion
- Star Wars
- WEC Lemans
to name a few.
Worst titles ever:
- Braxx Bluff
Perhaps I will say Yie Ar Kung Fu is the best one... I got so good at it I could just play for hours on end in the same game - eventually the score turns into random graffiti.
Post by: tjohnson on 10:31, 13 July 20
Quote from: zhulien on 07:53, 13 July 20
- Gauntlet (the arcade conversion)
Defender clone or dungeon hack and slash game?
Post by: zhulien on 15:51, 13 July 20
Quote from: tjohnson on 10:31, 13 July 20
Defender clone or dungeon hack and slash game?
Dungeon one, not the defender one.
Post by: zhulien on 15:46, 18 March 22