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Best Mode 0 games?

Started by MaV, 13:09, 17 August 11

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Cholo

Lets see what havnt been mentioned: .. Arkanoid 1 & 2, Extreme, Jim Power in mutant planet, Mission Elevator, Nexus, Operation Thunderbolt, Klax, Sai Combat, Bruce Lee, Bomb Jack, P-47, Silkworm, West Bank, Targhan, Werewolves of London ...

even pretty average or bad games can look amazingly colourfull, like Tapper, Rolling Thunder, 1943, Kung Fu Master ...

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1943 is a great game!
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MacDeath

#27
QuoteRainbow island, Rodland...
those cartoonish manga games are really what CPC can do well...
no need to go Greyish... and rounbd designs (cartoonish) so mode0 can perform well.
No wonder CPC can perform just above C64 and Speccy, despite being slightly sluggier.
Yet I think good old MSX2 can be greater of course (but MSX2 and latter are quite 16bit graphix IMO)


The only condition was to have good CPC graphical ports and no shitty mode1 speccy ports...
Nor even straight C64 ports...
You can do so much better with more than 4 colours per sprite or 4x8 wide pixels attributes.


"Sid Meyer's Pirates!" on CPC could really have been on 16bit level if a real graphician handed this port instead of those C64 rippoffs...

Quote1943
I even think the CPC version looks even better than ST/Amiga ports...

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Off the top of my head in no particular order:

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Rainbow Islands
Edd The Duck
Flimbo's Quest
Titus The Fox
Turbo The Tortise
Scooby & Scrappy Doo.
Wizard Willy
The Hit Squad
Punch & Judy
The Sacred Armour of Antiried

Unsure if when the screen is reduced to Spectrum Resolution if the Pixels change from a rectangular shape (as normal Mode 0 games do) into a Square. Normal Mode 1 offers a square pixel as opposed to Normal Mode 0 as well.
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Quote from: MacDeath on 01:50, 20 August 11
Nor even straight C64 ports...
You can do so much better with more than 4 colours per sprite or 4x8 wide pixels attributes.


"Sid Meyer's Pirates!" on CPC could really have been on 16bit level if a real graphician handed this port instead of those C64 rippoffs...


That's why I never cared much for Barbarian's graphics on CPC.  Sure it still looks alright but it's still a C64 port whereas those large sprites could have had so much more shading and detail if redone specifically for the CPC.  Same goes for other obvious C64 ports where the large sprites have only 3 colors.

Turrican II, I still far prefer on CPC rather than C64 and looks like the CPC version actually had some effort put into it rather than a cheap port. Still not sure why Turrican himself is green when blue would have been more appropiate though.

Also I have a lot of fondness for the colorful graphics of the first Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles Game.  Nice chunky sprites and tiles and even has parallax scrolling.
Favorite CPC games: Count Duckula 3, Oh Mummy Returns, RoboCop Resurrection, Tankbusters Afterlife

MacDeath

#30
Concerning Barbarian's sprites, it is fun to notice that even the PC ("Death sword" CGA Dos version ) have those wide pixel sprites.
And ST/Amiga versions don't even have that much coloured sprites.

But on the background matter, the CPC version has especially designed ones, with some differences with C64 version, and to be fair they are the most impressive on CPC.

I don't know if the engine could support betterly designed sprites.
They may be encoded in 2bpp, I got to check this on WinApe.


Ok I cheked and yes those warrior sprites are coded in 2bpp (="mode1").
find graphics option has to be put in Linear mode.

I did a spritesheet rippoff but can't post it.

Xifos

Best mode 0 graphics ?
What about Targhan from Silmarils ?

steve

All we've got here is a list of names, how about a screenshot and/or video link as evidence?

Gryzor

Not exactly what you've asked for, but do try CPCGamesCD, the included CPCLoader software has screenshots for all of them and it's the easiest way to check things out fast...

MacDeath

#34
QuoteBest mode 0 graphics ?
What about Targhan from Silmarils ?
As I told, Silmarils (vive la France) made only few productions on CPC but graphics are top notch on all of them...


Targhan manage to have a strong atmosfear... and the colours are brilliantly well used...

One of the rare occurance where the only 1 grey mixed with dark cyan actually looks like a proper grey gradiant...

Hell even the EGA PC version was awesome with realsounds and good use of limited fullCGA palette.

Windsurf Wilklly's graphics are saucy as hell too.



Another not well know french game : les Dieux de la Mer (Patrice Martin Championship Waterskiing/Championship Water-Ski Challenge)




Also a great game I played a lot... and quite good for summertime retro sessions... ;)

dragon

Mode 0 games is beautiful colours,but because the conversion games to mode 0 in amstrad lost the music?.

For example:

spectrum version:



horrible graphics,but beautiful music.

Amstrad colours:

Beautiful graphics, but not music!.





kyjena

The amstrad conversion doesn't lost the music. You can make a try here: http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&onglet=jeuenligne&num=1853
The music is on the title's screen and sounds are ingame.
And the scrolling speed is best when you play online than the video itself.
This game is fun to play and the graphics are very good an colorfull in my opinion.

MacDeath

QuoteAnd the scrolling speed is best when you play online than the video itself.
What scrolling ?
What online ? :o

Devilmarkus

Quote from: MacDeath on 18:10, 31 August 11
What scrolling ?
What online ? :o

The ingame scrolling.
He meant when you play the game in an emulator / with your real CPC instead of watching it on YT.
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Quote from: Devilmarkus© on 18:20, 31 August 11
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He meant ...
To me kyjena sounds like a "she". But I may be wrong. Not all CPC users are male ;-)
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MacDeath

oK MY BAD...

the Car race part has no scrolling but the Boat race do have...

Excuze my stupidness... ;D

TFM

Quote from: MacDeath on 21:24, 01 September 11
Excuze my stupidness... ;D
If all people would be as stupid as you, then we would have a wonderful, humorous, smart and wise world. One world I really would like to live in  :) :) :)
And... we wouldn't have damn Speccy ports  :laugh:
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dragon

Another classic.



This game has ending?

Xyphoe

Quote from: dragon on 20:52, 21 September 11
Another classic.



This game has ending?

I have a longplay and review of this ready for Halloween next month!  :D

dragon

QuoteI have a longplay and review of this ready for Halloween next month!  :D

Ohh good,I try pass the game with the map of cpc power.But the map no is 100% correct to the cpc versión,so i lost XD.


I also remember other game i see one day in a friend house.In a city place in a desert(arabic type).Type warewolves,you run over the city,but i not remember the name of the game.

Xyphoe

Quote from: dragon on 13:54, 22 September 11
Ohh good,I try pass the game with the map of cpc power.But the map no is 100% correct to the cpc versión,so i lost XD.

I also remember other game i see one day in a friend house.In a city place in a desert(arabic type).Type warewolves,you run over the city,but i not remember the name of the game.

The map actually, I believe, was written specifically for the CPC version - but I also believe the Speccy has the same layout.

Anyway - the map is VERY confusing, and I too thought it was incorrect. But once you get your head round his schema, it is actually correct ... just a bit of a mess and by god, if you hadn't made a map you would have gotten lost in the sewers which in game make no logical sense how they connect with each other. How that person made that map deserves a medal as I would not have had the patience for it, which will be reflected in the score I give. There are 2 areas you have to get to and the only way is via the sewers you see.

The other game you mention very vaguely rings a bell, but I can't remember - maybe someone else here will know it

dragon

#46
write for the cpc? Imposible.

For example.

Yo begin in the sector marked with the "file" in the map.

o.k If you go to the door of forest.(to the left) yo can walk across 4(door forest incluyed,begin not incluyed) localizations(map).But in the game you lost one localitation!.(this is not problem of confussing map).

In the file localitation map,go up to the roof,an try go to station.i'ts imposible not exists!.

In the jail up,appears one level with upstaris to the roof.ok.If yo go to the roof and go to the other side to the roof down to street and go one screen to the let you found the screw!.In a localitation when you can go to norh and right.When in the map the screw is in localtation without north exit and with roof door!.










MiguelSky

Quote from: dragon on 13:54, 22 September 11I also remember other game i see one day in a friend house.In a city place in a desert(arabic type).Type warewolves,you run over the city,but i not remember the name of the game.
This one could be Tuareg

http://amstrad.es/juegosamstrad/decargajuegos/tuareg.php

TotO

#48

Strangely (or not), best Mode 0 games graphics are the work of the same people : Mark K. Jones

- Arkanoid
- Renegade
- Gryzor
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dragon

QuoteThis one could be Tuareg

Yes!.

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