CPC Games Reviews.... Thumbs down :(

[TFM]

Anybody an idea? Who is this person called Missas?
IMHO his votings are far off reality. [nb]And yes, I say that because he gave me only 6 for Cyber Huhn.[/nb]

[EgoTrip]

It's just one person's opinion. Those reviews are only a very rough guide, and 6 is still above average.

[TFM]

It's just one person's opinion. Those reviews are only a very rough guide, and 6 is still above average.

Well, you got 5 for the Pix game. And 6 is not too far away. I think that you deserve the 8 points for Subtera Puzlo of course. But 5 points for a simple basic game, while a machine code program gets 6 points, completely ignoring the fact that no other game ever displayed over 40 sprites at a time, the whole crap in 3D space. That just suxxx!
And further more this guy uses great sentences like: "The graphics are average with four colours used, and the chickens are well drawn.". There is not much more than chickens, so is it average or well?
I think this guy is taking the Crack!

EDIT: That kind of crappy reviews are really highly frustrating and keep people from making games for the CPC. Shame on him!

[redbox]

Wow, that's so cool to have reviews of the games on this website.

I use it all the time so it's great to see something I've been involved with on there.  Just need Xyphoe to do some long plays now

Link: CPC GAME REVIEWS

@TFM - this is a games review website, not a technical achievement website...! So the scores reflect how much the reviewer enjoyed playing the game and of course they are personal opinions.

[AMSDOS]

The majority of games on CPC Games Review get the "Thumbs Down" - I just ignore it.

[EgoTrip]

If you let one person discourage you, then I think you are the one smoking crack. Look at the results for the competition, some people voted your game above the rest in all 4 categories, so that shows that some people played the game and figured out for themselves what they liked best. Don't be such a crybaby.

[TMR]

As a developer i know that bad or meh reviews are pretty painful because that's something you've poured your heart and soul into, but you've either got to go with the flow and try to learn from all of the given feedback and not just the positive stuff or, if you're truly confident with what you're doing (and perhaps have a core audience egging you on) just feckin' go for it and do what you feel is right.

Ultimately, trying to please all of the people all of the time is an extremely efficient way to slowly unscrew your brain and no matter how good a programmer or indeed program is they will always get a less than stellar review from someone.

[HAL6128]

...the voting of CPCWiki speaks a clearer and unambiguously language in contradiction to just one review. The difference is there's more prose from an author and that is not a objective scale, only a subjective one.

[TFM]

@TFM - this is a games review website, not a technical achievement website...! So the scores reflect how much the reviewer enjoyed playing the game and of course they are personal opinions.

He writes "The gameplay is pleasant and the grab factor is quite strong". So why damn 6 point. I bet he didn't even discover that this game has a title song. [nb]Which of course is off by default, nobody want's the boss to see you playing video games in the office or where ever ;-)[/nb]
Yes, it's a personal opinion. Games from Spain get usually 9 or 10 points. Other countries get screwed. I liked CPC Games reviews, but now I just think these scores are based of nothing than emotions which don't belong to the CPC scene - or is it really just sloppiness.

[ralferoo]

Games from Spain get usually 9 or 10 points. Other countries get screwed.

I just checked. Teodora no sabe volar (from Spain) only got 8 points, and I think that's the best CPC game I've played for a long while.

What this shows is that different people have different tastes and user reviews naturally reflect that.

[Bryce]

He writes "The gameplay is pleasant and the grab factor is quite strong". So why damn 6 point.

Because he hates you! 

Which of course is off by default, nobody want's the boss to see you playing video games in the office or where ever ;-)

I think the fact that I had a CPC on my desk would raise more suspicion than the musik.

Bryce.

[TFM]

Oh well, some really use emulators at work. [nb]What I hereby admit.[/nb]

[TotO]

You scored the same as Cybernoid & Cybernoid 2... All is relative!

[TFM]

You scored the same as Cybernoid & Cybernoid 2... All is relative!

Indeed! And these games are wonderful. In turn this doesn't help to cast better light on the quality of these reviews - which are also in this case far off reality.

[Metr]

In my opinion always Missel is watching every cpc video on youtube usually, and I think he usually give his opinion as player.
For me all the games in the comp are great. I'm aware of the great effort is to make a game, plus in 16KB.
But I think those kind of reviews doesn't talk about the technical stuff they involve, because they are there to express the feelings playing a game.


It's not fair to compare this kind of games with regular games. But if you have to do it (and agreeing that I like a lot what I've played, even you have mouse support!), bad thing with Cyber Hunh (and this is my opinion), is that in 7-8 minutes you have seen everything, you have played everything. 2 games are enough to kill all the stuff and even have to wait to get the timer down, because you are out of enemies before and the games doesn't change. There are no more levels. And I like what I've played.

And I'm not trying to offence in any way, as I said I admire every piece of work you made, and for a comp you need to impress for technic. I just supose that's why it's a six for him, in terms of what a player will get.

[TFM]

... is that in 7-8 minutes you have seen everything, you have played everything. 2 games are enough to kill all the stuff and even have to wait to get the timer down...

Good point. It was different before, but I gave the game to a guy who told it is to hard, so I shifted the hit-range more towards to end of the 3D space. In the update you have the option between a closer and more far away hit-range.
I agree, it has only one level and that's maybe not the best thing. A 7-8 would be fine. Well, till the end of the year I will have the update of Cyber Huhn for ROM, and in addition as 64 KB and 128 KB version. Each one has a different feature set depending of the amount of available memory.

[Gryzor]

Just a single score for a whole game is an inadequate way to judge a game. What's more, the whole site (which I love) is a collection of quick reviews, you can't expect in-depth analyses. OR consistency.


For me a 8 should be awarded to very few games, with the hindsight of almost 30 years of CPC gaming. Try and put it in perpective...

[AMSDOS]

I just checked. Teodora no sabe volar (from Spain) only got 8 points, and I think that's the best CPC game I've played for a long while.

Haven't played that one, but noticed the Invasion of the Zombies was given a 9. Personally I felt it was more of a 6 due to the frustration I get from it. 

[TFM]

For me a 8 should be awarded to very few games, with the hindsight of almost 30 years of CPC gaming. Try and put it in perpective...

For a 8 just search for text-only adventures. They all get an 8 ;-)

[Nich]

The majority of games on CPC Games Review get the "Thumbs Down" - I just ignore it.

It could be because I've become rather jaded after reviewing CPC games for nearly 15 years (I started the site in November 1998, although it's sometimes hard for me to believe it was that long ago) - or it could be that the large majority of the good games have already been reviewed and therefore only the bad and not-so-good games are reviewed nowadays.

[Nich]

Anybody an idea? Who is this person called Missas?
IMHO his votings are far off reality.

He's Greek, and he reviews new CPC releases only. I have noticed that he tends to rate most games a lot more highly than I would, but he is entitled to his opinion! (He also insists that the chickens are actually ducks. )

In my opinion, if I had written the review, I would probably have also rated Cyber Huhn 6/10 - and that's being generous. I don't believe that technical achievements should influence the rating of a game; what I care about is a combination of the graphics, sound effects, music, and most importantly, how good the game is to play. In that respect, I agree with Metr's assessment - once you've played it a few times, you've seen the entire game.

[Nich]

Well, till the end of the year I will have the update of Cyber Huhn for ROM, and in addition as 64 KB and 128 KB version. Each one has a different feature set depending of the amount of available memory.

When the 64K and 128K versions are released, I (or Missas, depending on who is quicker) will re-review it.

[Nich]

For a 8 just search for text-only adventures. They all get an 8 ;-)

Aren't most of those text-only adventures released by Infocom? I'm certainly not the biggest fan of the genre, but most aficionados of 1980s text-only adventures will probably tell you that the quality of Infocom's games stands far above the competition.

[TFM]

Thanks for the comments. Ok, for good players CH may be a bit (too) easy. But that's the fun about it on the other hand. However, it was harder before and test-players complained about that.

[AMSDOS]

It could be because I've become rather jaded after reviewing CPC games for nearly 15 years (I started the site in November 1998, although it's sometimes hard for me to believe it was that long ago) - or it could be that the large majority of the good games have already been reviewed and therefore only the bad and not-so-good games are reviewed nowadays.

I can understand that everyone will have their hits & misses based on preferential ideals and how many games someone has played.
The difference between you and me is you've probably played nearly every CPC game, and by contrast can compare games to other similar games, and draw conclusions based on preferences to which games you'd prefer, which is understandable. 
Someone like myself has probably only managed to scratch the surface and played 5% of CPC games ever made, so that by contrast would reflect how I reviewed a game, so there are games on your site which have a middle of the range number to low-ish number which, I've had a tendency of playing a lot and have come to enjoy.