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Crownland conversion from Atari
« on: 07:35, 02 May 19 »
I have recently seen these videos on youtube, it seems that someone is converting the game Crownland to CPC , Does anyone know anything about the project or know its author?


https://youtu.be/QmxB2nmOpFg


https://youtu.be/uDNCfB3l91c
« Last Edit: 14:41, 02 May 19 by XeNoMoRPH »
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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #1 on: 07:50, 02 May 19 »
That looks really awesome! Sorry I have no information about the project.

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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #2 on: 07:55, 02 May 19 »
That looks like hardware scrolling with the paralax been done with software techniques. If that is the case then it is very impressive.

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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #3 on: 09:04, 02 May 19 »
That looks great indeed!


Not to sound picky, but Crownland is a game for the Atari 8-bit computers, not the C64.  ;D


I’ve played it a lot on Atari and I can say that it’s a great game!

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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #4 on: 09:21, 02 May 19 »
You are right robcfg, Cronwland is a 128k Atari game. I completed it some time ago on my 130XE, but it's not very rich in levels.
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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #5 on: 09:43, 02 May 19 »
Don't know anything about the conversion but it sure looks impressive. It's hard to get a parallax effect like that without a purely software scroll (and that in itself is tricky), so I'm curious how it's being achieved.

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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #6 on: 11:06, 02 May 19 »
I am sorry I don't see the point in creating a 1:1 port of this game to the CPC, since I don't feel it is going to match the original version. I don't see 'smooth scrolling' and 'non-stop ingame music', both features packed on a decent game screen and not just on a small window, as the biggest strenghts of most CPCs games; besides, Crownland does not work on any stock Atari A8, it requires at least a XL/XE system upgraded to 128KB of RAM, so it may be more fair to port it to the Amstrad Plus range.


A plain CPC version could take advantage of more enemies and/or moving platforms on screen (as it doesn't need to rely on a limited number of hardware sprites), so it would be harder (and maybe slower) to progress, or could even introduce puzzles to keep moving on the stage, but it would mean to design a different gameplay -what would be great, but would make it like 'Crownland 2', not just 'Crownland'.


Atari A8 games I would love to see on a CPC, with updated graphics and so? Drelbs, Realm of Impossibility and the first dungeon crawlers with close to text-mode aesthetics. I can't see a Yoomp! port to the CPC, for instance.

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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #7 on: 13:45, 02 May 19 »
Be patient guys ;)


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Re: Crownland conversion from C64
« Reply #8 on: 14:42, 02 May 19 »
That looks great indeed!


Not to sound picky, but Crownland is a game for the Atari 8-bit computers, not the C64.  ;D


I’ve played it a lot on Atari and I can say that it’s a great game!
It's true .. I've been wrong with another game I had in mind about C64 and I've messed up haha  :picard:
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #9 on: 20:11, 02 May 19 »
Hi !
I'm the author of this preview. Initially, it was just an attempt at parallax scrolling, but the project progresses.


Don't know anything about the conversion but it sure looks impressive. It's hard to get a parallax effect like that without a purely software scroll (and that in itself is tricky), so I'm curious how it's being achieved.

Good intuition :) 
Hardware scroll is used for front tiles, and compiled tiles are used for background and water. I hope i can show more very soon.
« Last Edit: 20:22, 02 May 19 by gurneyh »

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #10 on: 20:23, 02 May 19 »
Thanks for dropping by, and best luck on your project!

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #11 on: 01:16, 03 May 19 »
Impressive! The multi-plan scrolling is a real plus, and was certainly a bit tricky to do. If you need help/advice for the music/sound, don't hesitate to ask (check Arkos Tracker on my signature if you never heard of it).
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #12 on: 11:32, 03 May 19 »
Hi,
The two video preview are astonishing ! :)
For the front tiles, is it byte hardware scrolling at 25 hz ?Won't you need the scrolling to be slower when the character starts to walk ?

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #13 on: 19:55, 03 May 19 »
Impressive! The multi-plan scrolling is a real plus, and was certainly a bit tricky to do. If you need help/advice for the music/sound, don't hesitate to ask (check Arkos Tracker on my signature if you never heard of it).

Thanks you, it's very nice.

Arkos Tracker is installed on my machine. Just, i'm bad with soundtrackers.
Hi,
The two video preview are astonishing ! :)
For the front tiles, is it byte hardware scrolling at 25 hz ?Won't you need the scrolling to be slower when the character starts to walk ?
I'm glad this preview pleases.Crownland on Atari 8 bits seems, to have scroll at same speed than the preview, but i could be wrong.

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #14 on: 21:08, 03 May 19 »
Very promising, thanks for sharing !

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #15 on: 23:32, 03 May 19 »
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Arkos Tracker is installed on my machine. Just, i'm bad with soundtrackers.
It depends on what you want to do actually. I saw an Atari ST version, I guess you could use the same music? In that case, you can use Madram AYC player (from the YM stream).
If you want something more specific, you can you can still ask for help.
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #16 on: 10:03, 04 May 19 »
I didn't know this game. Seems to be a mix of Mario / Wonderboy (snails inside !). Graphics are nice, animation is good but the music is CLEARLY too short and not very inspirated (even if for an Atari XL tune, sounds are good). If you plan to do an Amstrad CPC port, you should change this !

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #17 on: 11:14, 04 May 19 »
I didn't know this game. Seems to be a mix of Mario / Wonderboy (snails inside !). Graphics are nice, animation is good but the music is CLEARLY too short and not very inspirated (even if for an Atari XL tune, sounds are good). If you plan to do an Amstrad CPC port, you should change this !
It's a little early for me to project on what the music will be. The plan was to convert it from Atari ST version, but again it's too early.
I still have work to transform a parallax scrolling demo into a proper game. And... I'm slow.
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #18 on: 12:35, 04 May 19 »
I would be sad if the game music is changed.


Maybe improve it, but definitely not changing it. The tunes are short but catchy.

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #19 on: 13:00, 04 May 19 »
It will be not the first time that a 8/16-bit game do not have the same music from a system to an other.
I do not see any issue with that if it can be better and in the same spirit. (Cybernoid, Deliverance, ...)
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #20 on: 15:10, 04 May 19 »
As usual, it's a matter of taste and it's gurneyh's call.


Just saying that if you're used to the original tune, changing it drastically would feel weird.


But that's my 2 cents  :D

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #21 on: 21:19, 04 May 19 »
Good work, Gurneyh, the multiscroll effect is very well achieved!Is it your first work for CPC?

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #22 on: 23:27, 04 May 19 »
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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #23 on: 23:29, 04 May 19 »
Good work, Gurneyh, the multiscroll effect is very well achieved!Is it your first work for CPC?

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Re: Crownland conversion from Atari
« Reply #24 on: 11:27, 06 May 19 »
Never heard of the original before, but the vids look beautiful...