Games using 128K RAM

[MacDeath]

With the CPCpower's staff (Kukulcan) we started to set the definitive and complete list of the games that take into account that your CPC is 128K RAM (or even more...)


Needless to say such list may be a bit difficult to fill so every help are needed.


Here are the topics (in French mostly) and pages...

CPCpower article :
http://www.cpc-power.com/cpcarchives/index.php?page=articles&num=151

CPCrulez topic :
http://cpcrulez.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4458&p=14254#p14254

Thx for your help fellow amstradists...

Bonus : telling what extra feature are added...


PS : I put this topic in "Games" but every kind of Softwares (even serious ones) are to be featured too.

Needless to say, when the list is to be "completed" we may add a new category in the CPCwiki...

[MiguelSky]

Well, Green Beret has some graphics more in the disk version than in the cassete one, I don't know if it is because ram...

[TFM]

* Thunder Cats - 128 KB
* A Tribute to the Sisters - 128 KB up to 4 MB

Utilities
* Discology - 128 KB up to 320 KB
* FutureOS - 128 KB up to 4 MB

Sorry for mentioning soooo much own stuff, but that's the stuff you keep the easiest in mind ;-)

[trocoloco]

I remember Target Renegades loading all levels when using 128K
Ghosts'n'ghouls adds intro music + sound effects

[Devilmarkus]

Trantor loads digitalized voice with 128k

It loads the sample also with 64k... (Or did I miss something? Perhaps only the cracked one?)

[trocoloco]

It loads the sample also with 64k... (Or did I miss something? Perhaps only the cracked one?)

thats true sorry, I just checked and you're right 

[jbaudrand]

Robocop has digital voice for disk 128Ko version
 
  -Prohibition : there's a 464/664 disk version and a 6128 disk version   (the boss office quick shot level and the picture that show the hero   hiding behind a wall are missing in the 64ko version)
 
  -Captain Blood: the 6128 version contain more character and more Special effects during hyperspace than 464 version.
 
  hope that helps.
 

[ukmarkh]

Zombi 128k version... more detailed graphics and errie music.

[ssg]

Vera Cruz - actually required 128k and wouldn't run on 64k.

[Targhan]

Orion Prime has a wonderful feature on 128k that the 64k doesn't have : a game (sorry ).

[MacDeath]

You're a perfect Troll...
10/10...
Kidding.

Hermol provided us a list :

(in french)

   
• 2 Player Super League
  20000 Lieues Sous Les Mers
  2112 AD
  3D Construction Kit
  A La Decouverte De La Terre
  Adi Environnement *
  Adi Francais *
  Adi Mathematiques
  Adventure Quest
  Air Sea Supremacy
  Alphakhor
  Amnesia
  Arcticfox
  Atland
  B.A.T
  Balade a Cologne
  Barthels Dash
  Batman 3: The Movie
  Battle Command
  Battle-Spheres
  BCM The Code Searcher
  Bionic Commando
  Black Land
  Black Magic
  Bo!
  Bounty Hunter
  Bunny Bricks
  Call &BD10'n'oeuf
  Carrier Command
  Casanova
  Castle Warlok
  Chase HQ
  Chip's Challenge
  Chomedu
  Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer
  Code De La Route (CPC Infos)
  Colossal Adventure
  Computer Scrabble Deluxe
  Corruption
  Cpc Aventure
  Crazyfruit
  Cyborgs PREVIEW
  Das Reich
  Davy Jones Locker
  Der Zeichner
  Detective: Enquete n1 - L'Affaire Rostov
  Dora
  Double Dragon 1 ANIMAGIC
  Double Dragon 1
  Double Dragon 2
  Double Dragon 2 ANIMAGIC
  Dragon World
  Drigus Und Drolan
  Dungeon Adventure
  El Sistema Muscular
  Elidon
  Enduro Racer
  Escape From Wacci
  Eswat - Cyber Police
  European Soccer Challenge
  European Superleague
  Exterminator
  Fighting Soccer
  Final Fight
  Fres Attack
  Fres Fighter 2 Turbo
  Fres Man
  Frestris
  Frestris
  Fucki Demo
  G-Loc R360
  Gauntlet 1, 2 ,3
  Ghouls 'N Ghosts
  Gnome Ranger
  Grand Prix 500 2
  Grange Hill
  Granny's Garden
  Groops
  Gunboat - River Combat Simulation
  Gunboat Simulator
  Hero Quest
  Highway Patrol
  Horizon CE-1
  Huxley Pig
  Hydra
  Iankey Two Fingers To Touch Typing Conversion Course
  Iankey Typing Crash Course
  III Guerra Mundial
  Ingrid's Back!
  International 3D Tennis
  Into The Mystic
  Ishido (ARKOS)
  Jinxter
  Jump Mania
  Jungle Book
  Karatian
  Kick Off 2
  Killer Star
  Killerball
  Knife Plus
  Knight Orc
  L'Affaire Ravenhood
  L'Art De La Guerre
  L'Or Des Azteques
  La Abadia Del Crimen
  La Abadia Del Crimen
  La Bosse Des Maths *
  La Malediction
  La Planete Mysterieuse
  Labyrinthe De La Reine Des Ombres
  Lancelot
  Le Labyrinthe aux Cent Calculs
  Le Labyrinthe aux Mille Calculs - College
  Le Labyrinthe d'Anglomania 1, 2
  Le Labyrinthe d'Errare - College
  Le Labyrinthe d'Orthophus
  Le Labyrinthe de Morphintax
  Le Septieme Continent
  Les Griffes De La Nuit
  Les Passagers du Vent
  Lights Out
  Line Of Fire
  Logical Head
  Lord Of The Rings
  Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge
  Lubix
  Mage
  Malefices
  Megamix
  Megawar
  Mercenary
  Mercs
  Micro Scrabble
  Microprose Soccer
  Mig Busters
  Mike Read's Computer Pop Quiz
  Monte Cristo
  Moulinsart
  Mountain Bike Simulator
  Murders In Venice - Meurtres A Venise
  Mutant Fortress
  Nathan Ecoles Francais *
  New York Warriors
  Nigel Mansell's World Championship
  Night Hunter
  No Exit
  North & South - Les Tuniques Bleues
  Off Shore Warrior
  Oink!
  Olli & Lissa III - The Candlelight Adventure
  Orion Prime
  Out Of This World
  Paris-Dakar
  Peter Pan
  Pirates
  Piso Zero
  Plumpy
  Postman Pat
  Poussy
  Power-Flash
  Prohibition
  Project X
  Punch & Judy
  Recherche Miss X Desesperement
  Red & Blue
  Rescue Atlantis
  Santa's Christmas Capers
  Scapeghost
  Seymour At The Movies
  Shadow Warriors
  Sherman M4
  Shoulder Dash 99
  Skateboard Joust
  Sliders
  Soko Bam
  Space Crusade
  Space Harrier 2
  Space War
  Splash
  Srambase
  Star Sabre
  Starship Quest
  Streap-Poker
  Strip-Jak
  Stuart England
  Stunt Car Racer
  Sudoku Master
  Super Cars
  Supertrux
  Swap
  Switch
  SWIV
  Talisman Of Lost Souls
  Tank Attack
  Targhan
  Teacher Trouble
  Terramex
  Tetris 95
  The Addams Family
  The Eternal Light
  The Great Giana Sisters
  The Guild Of Thieves
  The Manager
  The Miser
  The Pawn
  The Spiro Legacy
  The Spy Who loved Me
  The Test
  The Three Bears
  Time And Magik Trilogy
  Times Of Lore
  Tolki
  Top Of The League
  Toyota Celica GT Rally
  Traitement Bzzz
  Treasure Island
  Turbo Cup
  Ultimate Tetris
  Vol En Plein Pacifique
  War Machine
  Wind Surf Willy
  World Championship Soccer
  World Class Rugby
  World Cup Challenge
  X-Contra
  Xyphoes Fantasy
  Zap't'Balls *
  Zombi
  
  use instruction "ld bc,&7FC?:out (c),c" in its code...
  
  Daley Thompson's Olympic Challenge (&7FC4)
  Dizzy V - Spellbound Dizzy (&7FC4)
  Dragon Ninja (&7FC4)
  Grell And Falla (&7FC4)
  La Espada Sagrada (&7FC4)
  Stryker In The Crypts Of Trogan (&7FC4)
  Total Recall (&7FC4)
  Vindicators  (&7FC4)
  Wild West Seymour (&7FC4)
  Soccer Pinball (&7FC4)
  Badlands (&7FC4)
  Switchblade (&7FC5)
  Psycho Hopper (&7FC5)
  Gryzor (&7FC7)
  Starwars: Return Of The Jedi (&7FC7)
  Fairlight: A Prelude (&7FC6)
  APB - All Points Bulletin
  Barbarian II
  Batman The Caped Crusader
  El Patiente 106
  Emlyn Hughes International Soccer
  Escape From The Planet Of The Robot Monsters
  Guerrilla War
  Il Etait Une Fois
  Inferno
  Les Ripoux
  Megablasters
  Operation Wolf
  Pinball Power
  Rambo 3
  Robocop
  Saga
  Secret Defense
  Super Cauldron
  Prehistorik 2
  Tennis Cup
  Victory Road - The Pathway To Fear

Of course this would be just too cool to tell What are the extra features.

The most common must be a single loading...
Extra sounds somethimes... (mostly sampled sounds ?)

But actual extra graphics or gameplay must be not that common.

Of course "Serious" softwares are more prone to use a 6128.

3D construction Kit per exemple.

[TFM]

If you ask for help here... then you should at least integrate the provided informations. (All the above mentioned prods are still missing).
Maybe the French don't like Thundercats, maybe they prefer Lightningfrogs 

[sigh]

There's some really strange ones there that I don't understand where the extra 64k would be used. For instance: Emlyn Hughes International Soccer and tennis cup. Would this be extra sounds effects?

I remember Shinobi having music and sound effects on the 128k as it was silent on 64k. I remember not having my memory expansion at the time and playing the cover disk demo.
Gryzor, renegade, target renegade - single loading. Gryzor also had music with 128k. I think operation wulf and operation thunderbolt may have had single loading, but I cant remember.

[ssg]

The Untouchables also had no music on 64k.

[Cholo]

The amstrad action demo of Shinobi is a really good one to test for extra ram is detected as it properly display a message about using the extra 64k for music/sample if it find it.

Amstrad Action did have couple of harmless woopsies. One of the one i recall was the promise of "next covertape  has Hero Quest demo it, make sure to check the cool music in this one"-ish and when the tape came there was no music as it was 128k dependant.

Operation Wolf (tape) does indeed load everything if you have more memory.

Gryzor does indeed load everything and give you the option of music.

Dragon Ninja loads all too in one go and adds that sample too.

If i recall right then Operation Thunderbolt (tape) loads the whole of side one (game and a lot of extra lvls) if you have the extra ram.

Im pretty sure Rainbow Islands does something close to Operation Thunderbolt but i really need to check that one first (so it isnt just my imagination).

[MacDeath]

Ok guys...

kukulcan did his list...

http://www.cpc-power.com/cpcarchives/index.php?page=articles&num=151
(in french)

please check up if something is missing... this list need to be translated perhaps, but i have no time for this ATM...

I will create the subcategories in the CPCwiki and perhaps an article too...

For the moment those are the sofwares who use the extra RAM, not exclusively 6128 softs
(some of those are actually exclusive  but not sorted yet...)



Games : 235

Serious softwares (applications) : 74

Compilations (featuring said games...) : 28


I think some of the game should be put into a specific category as they are educationnal softwares (ADI per exemple)


Post edition :

ok I did a stub of the Category:Extended RAM Softwares and Extended RAM Softwares pages.

This may need a more proper naming and is prone to change according to a debate.

Feel frree to talk about it and put the proper links into existing pages (games, softwares and so on...)

http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Extended_RAM_Softwares

http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Category:Extended_RAM_Softwares


THX..

[cpc4eva]

thats an amazing 128k list from Hermol


great topic this one interesting to find out about 128k software.


other than one go loading and extra loading music or speech did the 128k ever get fully used ?  was it really worthwhile or just another marketing ploy example "look my computer has 128k and yours doesnt"



whatever happened to Hermol ?  is he still making demos? is he still making cpc youtube vids ?  has he made any progress on the cpc zelda project i read about ages ago ?





am wondering what this is ? what does it do ?  and how to use it / implement it ?


use instruction "ld bc,&7FC?:out (c),c" in its code.

[MacDeath]

Well well well... having a 6128 enable to play the delightfull Pirates! game... per exemple...
Or B.A.T ?

Or to play the superbe RickDangerous 128+ (provided you also have a PLUS ...with 128K RAM) or even the soon to come R-Type 128...
Or Orion Prime.

But yeah perhaps too few games actually used it as it should be used (a true 6128 game... with no such silly cvoncept as Tape or 64K only...)

Many application though...


But the main problem is that the extra RAM was more used to get a single loading than to actually add extra features (to be verified)...
Which is great for tape users...
But useless for Disk users who could get fast multiloadings...

To me it would have been better to more differenciate the Tape version and Disk version, halas the 664 actually did exist... and this screwed all this.


So now the debate :

should I put subcategories such as : 128K games, 128K applications... and so on...

or should we simply put all into the generic 128K software... (after all softwares are already into Games or applications categories...)

[TFM]

Ok guys...

kukulcan did his list...

http://www.cpc-power.com/cpcarchives/index.php?page=articles&num=151
(in french)

This list mentions Symbos, but not FutureOS... also A Tribute to the Sisters is missing... (well, just to mention it - a third time...).

[MacDeath]

Oops, this is not complete nor definitive...

You can add those to the CPCwiki's page/categories...

[Devilmarkus]

This list mentions Symbos, but not FutureOS... also A Tribute to the Sisters is missing... (well, just to mention it - a third time...).

Sure: SymbOS is available on disk!

[TFM]

Sure: SymbOS is available on disk!

Like Discology and A Tribute to the Sisters too. But - hey - nobody was talking about discs!

[Gryzor]

"A Tribute..." is not released yet, if I'm not mistaken, and as such it does not belong in such a list. Isn't it still in development? If we were to add everything that *would* have appeared and *would* have needed 128k... no way.


Robocop: the sample, of course, was "Protect the public trust -Protect the innocent - Uphold the law" (the 4th directive was classified).


Trantor had the first voic sample I had ever heard on my trusty 464.


@Macdeath: thanks for the hard work mate... I think two categories are enough: games and apps. The titles could be games/apps that use more than 64k and then in the list we could state if 128k was the minimum or a bonus.


Also bear in mind that the categories need renaming. I may be "logiciels" in French but in english it's just "software", not "softwares"...

[MiguelSky]

What are the extra features in 2112 AD?

[TFM]

"A Tribute..." is not released yet, if I'm not mistaken, and as such it does not belong in such a list. Isn't it still in development? If we were to add everything that *would* have appeared and *would* have needed 128k... no way.

How nitpicking can someone be? A WIP has been released already a year ago.