(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0l4r7Azc-Ao/WspokM-GqrI/AAAAAAAAlMA/n25ko9F8KDE8UxWPMHn5Y7EB9gOc6aR8ACLcBGAs/s640/DaR9fJoX4AEkH56.jpg)
http://www.indieretronews.com/2018/04/malasombra-lady-phoenix-operation.html (http://www.indieretronews.com/2018/04/malasombra-lady-phoenix-operation.html)
- A more detailed write up will be done when each game is officially announced with a story,gameplay etc
Very cool !!!
at first glance the graphics are very beautiful and the music as always great :P :P
Quote from: Neil79 on 20:41, 08 April 18
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http://www.indieretronews.com/2018/04/malasombra-lady-phoenix-operation.html (http://www.indieretronews.com/2018/04/malasombra-lady-phoenix-operation.html)
- A more detailed write up will be done when each game is officially announced with a story,gameplay etc
im so horny right now!! XD
Wow, all three look graphically stunning and the music is sounding great too. Look forward to seeing more of these in action. :)
Quote from: Neil79 on 16:56, 09 April 18
Pics? ;D :laugh:
LOL, remember the "one guy and two QLs" ?
Great graphics aside McKlain is a really good AY/YM Chiptune maestro :D
https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/lady-phoenix (https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/lady-phoenix)
https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/malasombra-menu-music-wip (https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/malasombra-menu-music-wip)
https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/operation-alexandra-ingame-music-wip (https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/operation-alexandra-ingame-music-wip)
They all look pretty amazing, tbh!
is it normal that I feel somewhat aroused ?
Quote from: MacDeath on 21:16, 15 April 18
is it normal that I feel somewhat aroused ?
Absolutely.
Malasombra screens:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DXZ6bzEWmKY/WtWypBiCQ9I/AAAAAAAAso8/dB4QGsuNpakC1-4BEQtE26MJRjNfQzdKgCLcBGAs/s1600/zona_bosque2.png)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NlAoVHGk86g/WtWypGr1hiI/AAAAAAAAspA/reC8Y6sV7rALj2xTUpRxfoI82yY4YwbIACLcBGAs/s1600/zona_castillo1.png)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XoffnKmejdo/WtWxiG3C0uI/AAAAAAAAsoo/JdxP3eo7IpoIbUo4xmabX4DR8il6xEr5ACLcBGAs/s400/zona_pozos4.png)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rY88RSNyx_Y/WtWzF3dM8PI/AAAAAAAAspM/e_zfNuUVqL4BOVWzbjJIWqnGxiDaBfJ3gCLcBGAs/s400/zona_monta%25C3%25B1a3.png)
LadyPhoenix Screens:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kA3Thl62Fq0/WtWywqJ3knI/AAAAAAAAspE/iBTkhwaRxMIwWgonCawLbqiHqqtwI7PeACLcBGAs/s1600/tech.png)(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Mj0c3W605Bs/WtWywrVn8gI/AAAAAAAAspI/zFEMgWA2igQQfQ10OII0HWgvS-R_7p_DgCLcBGAs/s400/planet.png)
source: https://retromaniacmagazine.blogspot.com.es/2018/04/tres-juegos-para-tres-grafistas.html (https://retromaniacmagazine.blogspot.com.es/2018/04/tres-juegos-para-tres-grafistas.html)
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These look gorgeous and a lot of it far beyond what I can do.
How much memory are these games gonna need?
Quote from: Carnivius on 11:50, 17 April 18
These look gorgeous and a lot of it far beyond what I can do.
How much memory are these games gonna need?
both games will come out on mini dandanator-cpc hardware
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 15:46, 17 April 18both games will come out on mini dantanator-cpc hardware
I have no idea what that means. :o
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 15:46, 17 April 18both games will come out on mini dantanator-cpc hardware
What is this hardware ? what does it feature ?
Here we go:
http://www.dandare.es/Proyectos_Dandare/ZX_Dandanator%21_Mini_EN.html
Quote from: Carnivius on 15:54, 17 April 18
I have no idea what that means. :o
http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/cpc-dandanator-mini-1-0-wip/
I am really, really looking forward to all this :o Question: if you have a Plus, is the Mini-Dandanator needed?
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 15:46, 17 April 18both games will come out on mini dandanator-cpc hardware
So they should work with any ROM-card?
Quote from: GUNHED on 23:36, 18 April 18
So they should work with any ROM-card?
Sorry i don't have that info :(
------------ Bad News !!! ------------
malasombra canceled due to legal problems
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/986875317620035585
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 09:32, 19 April 18
Sorry i don't have that info :(
------------ Bad News !!! ------------
malasombra canceled due to legal problems
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/986875317620035585 (https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/986875317620035585)
I hope they can fix the situation and finish the game...
Quote from: GUNHED on 23:36, 18 April 18
So they should work with any ROM-card?
no, it is special.
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 09:32, 19 April 18malasombra canceled due to legal problems
Legal problems?! Can't imagine what these would be with a little Amstrad game? Such a shame, it looks gorgeous.
Some silly crap going on between LuegoLu3go (making the game Nogalious) and 4mhz who are making these cool looking games and from what Redirac translated for me from all the spanish tweets it does seem LuegoLu3go are being kinda jerky.
As far as I know, Luegolu3go has threatened to initiate legal actions against 4mhz for plagiarism.
All quite ludicrous, and a shame...
Quote from: robcfg on 17:03, 19 April 18
As far as I know, Luegolu3go has threatened to initiate legal actions against 4mhz for plagiarism.
All quite ludicrous, and a shame...
Looks like Luegolu3go has done plagiarism of Zelda for Nogalious game :-\
Plagiarism? :picard: This is nonsense. I think LuegoLu3go has been wrong.
4Mhz have released a statement (in Spanish):
https://www.4mhz.es/2018/04/19/comunicado-4mhz-es/ (https://www.4mhz.es/2018/04/19/comunicado-4mhz-es/)
Similar statement by LuegoLu3go studios: https://www.luegolu3go.com/blog/comunicado-oficial
In my opinion, if they are so trigger happy, they should be using that energy to develop the damn game.
They behave as if they were a very big game company and they haven't released a single game yet...
Oh well, I guess there's nothing else to see here, moving on.
Claiming plagiarism on low-res 8 bit pixel art is absurd, 99% of 8 bit games look, and play like something else, if the game engine's code was copied byte for byte, or game itself was ripped off - that would be one thing, but a few sprites? on a non-commercial game???
Good luck on your next kickstarter guys!
So :
Germany : Drama over alternative OS on CPC.
France : Drama between demogroups/clans.
UK : Drama between Speccyfanboyz and CPCmaster-race.
Spain : Drama between retrogames makers on obsolete systems because they both use some overused mémés things (omg, spiders in caverns ? omg, tiles of stones? omg adventurer sprite.... you stole my ideas !!! I invented RickDangerous and Prehistorik before all of you !)
And we shall call this conflict the Spanish Civil VaporWars...
(ok not cool to joke about that but what should I do then ?)
Need a translated version...
But is that some sort of "patent troll" tactics?
Can someone translate ansd post here both parties pretentions and claims ?
Anything to comfess, Greece ?
I am sure you also have a fair share of dramas... :picard:
I wasn't quite sure it wasn't a joke, obviously not.
will have to redesign some tiles and sprites I guess.
It looks like a complex situation, although I must admit that I find surprising these kind of problems when we are talking about Amstrad games, and it seems that I am not the only one. Even in the worse case scenario (both games using a few identical or similar assets) would that do any harm to the studios involved in making them? Would that change the number of copies they are going to sell? I don´t think so...
Seeing as they got their money via kickstarter before development, I can't see how... If there was blatant plagerism, they could have said 'Hey, you're stuff looks like ours... We hope you're going to give us credit for inspiring you!' and got some free publicity.
Reputations are built over years, and destroyed in seconds... threatening hobbyist developers in the community you're hoping will buy your product is not going to go well
This is utterly ridiculous... wow.
Especially considering that Nogalious will be released across a variety of platforms, with different graphics in the different versions.
I feel kind of silly for having supported the kickstarter now...
I want everything finally to be clarified and an agreement reached that does not harm anyone
Just a quick version of the facts for people who doesn't understand spanish:
- Javier from 4MHz makes an agreement to colaborate on LUEGOLU3GO after meeting Raúl in RetroPixel Málaga.
- Javier shows Raúl a mockup of how they can improve Nogalious using some graphics from one of their current projects (Malasombra).
- There is a misunderstanding and Raúl thinks they can use the graphics in the CPC version of Nogalious.
- 4MHz makes an announcement about their projects and Raúl gets mad when they see Malasombra graphics.
- Raúl sends Javier a legal document written by his attorney to remove the graphics from Malasombra (!!!).
It's VERY LOGICAL, right? :picard2:
In the case there's a need to arrest some spanish guys, send them ato Germany. We will do the job. Reliably. 8)
Unbelievable story!
I assume there's a contract in place giving LUEGOLU3GO exclusive use of his graphics? If not...
I do think oral agreements have legal validity as well, however this whole thing is ridiculous indeed...
Is there anything going on in Spain of which we don't know about?
A massive heat wave, mating season, collapse of capitalism, excessive gun violence, drug legalisation?
Come on, guys! Get your act together! I'm sure you can set your problems aside and go on developing your games.
It is all a matter of "legal proof"...
which can sometimes be hard to provide.
They're on a level on this matter that legal proof is ridiculous. This should rather be handled in a taberna with a couple of cerveza.
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:57, 20 April 18
I do think oral agreements have legal validity as well, however this whole thing is ridiculous indeed...
Even if they were technically in the right (And I don't think they were) they should not have resorted to legal threats as a first response.
It shouldn't even be a about "right or wrong", but self preservation for their company... who's going to want to do work for their company now, or even help them for free? knowing that this is how they respond to disputes?
Quote from: Manu on 08:01, 20 April 18
Just a quick version of the facts for people who doesn't understand spanish:
- Javier from 4MHz makes an agreement to colaborate on LUEGOLU3GO after meeting Raúl in RetroPixel Málaga.
- Javier shows Raúl a mockup of how they can improve Nogalious using some graphics from one of their current projects (Malasombra).
- There is a misunderstanding and Raúl thinks they can use the graphics in the CPC version of Nogalious.
- 4MHz makes an announcement about their projects and Raúl gets mad when they see Malasombra graphics.
- Raúl sends Javier a legal document written by his attorney to remove the graphics from Malasombra (!!!).
It's VERY LOGICAL, right? :picard2:
Thanks for clearing things up. How pathetic though!
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Quote from: keith56 on 01:37, 21 April 18
Even if they were technically in the right (And I don't think they were) they should not have resorted to legal threats as a first response.
It shouldn't even be a about "right or wrong", but self preservation for their company... who's going to want to do work for their company now, or even help them for free? knowing that this is how they respond to disputes?
What I said :)
Ugh, I feel bad for backing Nogalious now.
just confirm that the game Malasombra is still in developoment :) ñ. After fix all this matter 4mhz has confirm it. so good news! it was more a missunderstanding than anything else.
Quote from: jesusdelmas on 15:09, 21 April 18
just confirm that the game Malasombra is still in developoment :) ñ. After fix all this matter 4mhz has confirm it. so good news! it was more a missunderstanding than anything else.
Hurrah! That's fantastic news!
Quote from: Manu on 08:01, 20 April 18
Just a quick version of the facts for people who doesn't understand spanish:
- Javier from 4MHz makes an agreement to colaborate on LUEGOLU3GO after meeting Raúl in RetroPixel Málaga.
- Javier shows Raúl a mockup of how they can improve Nogalious using some graphics from one of their current projects (Malasombra).
- There is a misunderstanding and Raúl thinks they can use the graphics in the CPC version of Nogalious.
- 4MHz makes an announcement about their projects and Raúl gets mad when they see Malasombra graphics.
- Raúl sends Javier a legal document written by his attorney to remove the graphics from Malasombra (!!!).
It's VERY LOGICAL, right? :picard2:
I'm happy 4MHz guys are clear now, but I don't expect anything good coming from LL. Stay away from them, is not worth it.
Was it really? Or did they just patch things over?
I mean, even if they did, the fact that all this happened is ridiculous...
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:38, 21 April 18
Was it really? Or did they just patch things over?
I mean, even if they did, the fact that all this happened is ridiculous...
IMHO LL has always been a bit full of shit. The new Dinamic, that KS (bad start, funny ending), getting collaborators from all over the scene, ...is all a bit BS.
It was never for me, so good luck and *ignore*. After this last episode I can't help it, their reputation is clear and I think the sooner they stop messing with the retro community, the better for all.
Stay away from them.
Hell of a misunderstanding to be bringing threats of legal action into the argument but yeah ok am just glad 4mhz can proceed with making lovely games.
I don't care who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, but seeing how it was handled, i know who i will support by buying the game...
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Quote from: reidrac on 16:44, 21 April 18
IMHO LL has always been a bit full of shit. The new Dinamic, that KS (bad start, funny ending), getting collaborators from all over the scene, ...is all a bit BS.
It was never for me, so good luck and *ignore*. After this last episode I can't help it, their reputation is clear and I think the sooner they stop messing with the retro community, the better for all.
Stay away from them.
I agree with you, LL doesn't seems to a good game studio: too much hype and too few facts. Nogalious is a very mediocre game and they are presenting the game like something big.
finally .. there was agreement between both parties and the game Malasombra will be finalized :D
Quote from: reidrac on 16:44, 21 April 18
It was never for me, so good luck and *ignore*. After this last episode I can't help it, their reputation is clear and I think the sooner they stop messing with the retro community, the better for all.
Yeah, I didn't really like the way they went about things. And who coughed up the final €15k in the Kickstarter to suspiciously take them over the line in the final 2 days?
Something tells me it wasn't genuine backers....
Quote from: Skunkfish on 12:07, 24 April 18
Something tells me it wasn't genuine backers....
And you are right. Raúl admitted to have friends and "partners" that gave money to the campaign...
https://twitter.com/raulnogales/status/932877007637098496
https://twitter.com/raulnogales/status/932873386463780864
Ah, interesting. Didn't realise that they'd been up front (or rather found out...) on this topic.
Once those people call in their debts, I wonder how much of the campaign money is left? Enough to develop and publish the game still? Kickstarter takes 5% of the proceeds and they may lose another few % on their payment fees. If they need to pay those people back, they could be down around €1500.
I did think that their target was a bit ambitious for an unknown retro game.
These games look damn hawt.
I truly hope that there is a variant for 512KB Plus Carts (i.e., .crt files for GX4000).
Historically, Spanish coders do not create on the cpc + / gx4000 range, probably du to their poor success in Spain. I have always appreciated their use of mode 0 and mode 1 on the classic hardware.
Operation Alexandra , the game advances :o
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1034500519723761670
Oooh pixel Nazis!
Operation Alexandra teaser soon !!! , beware :o
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 21:26, 29 October 18
Operation Alexandra teaser soon !!! , beware :o
Looks amazing, look at the size of that screen [emoji342]
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Gotta move to Spain...
https://youtu.be/nN55q1-3SeE
Disapointed. The gfx look nothing like the trailer and there's no snow.
Another amazing game... this looks like one of the best CPC years ever ;D
What a trailer! very professional, although a little long the initial part for my taste, I would prefer to see a little more of the game :)
https://twitter.com/elmcklain/status/1058301934468251648
The 4mhz team announces that the Malasombra game demo will be available in approximately 13 days ... :o :o :o
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1158887862756151296 (https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1158887862756151296)
Any news about the Operation Alexandra physical release ? It was originally planned for march...
Quote from: kawickboy on 12:35, 08 August 19
Any news about the Operation Alexandra physical release ? It was originally planned for march...
until after summer I think nothing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHBjzDPWkAEubJP?format=jpg)
Raid on Moscow was not so great...
Is Operation Alexandra their last CPC project ?
On the McKlain sound page, the malasombra nes-tune recently published is great.
https://soundcloud.com/mcklain/malasombras-theme
McKlain is creating some lovely tunes indeed...
Quote#OperationAlexandra will appear in physical cassette the second half of November
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1185638683069861888 (https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1185638683069861888)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHQAO6lWoAI1Dhl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
The packaging seems to have the same excellent quality than repoker de ases.
Please someone let us know when it's available :)
Time for some Baba's palace on my phone now!
Looks very nice !! Following the development of these :D
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1197877497821638658
now on sale ...
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1200887394096074754
...and ordered :)
https://twitter.com/4mhz_es/status/1206623782074499072
https://www.4mhz.es/2019/12/16/las-vicisitudes-de-una-produccion-fisica-para-amstrad-cpc/
Happy ending.
Just received my Operation Alexandra. Great job, as expected.
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 09:32, 19 April 18malasombra canceled due to legal problems
What a pity. How this? It doesn't look like being related to any know game.
Quote from: GUNHED on 14:14, 27 December 19What a pity. How this? It doesn't look like being related to any know game.
I think it is canceled only because it is now a NES game. As I have understood, the legal issue was about using Malasombra gfx on an other production, not the invert.
Quote from: TotO on 15:24, 27 December 19
I think it is canceled only because it is now a NES game. As I have understood, the legal issue was about using Malasombra gfx on an other production, not the invert.
That's crazy! Or maybe they had problems finishing the game on CPC?!?
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:44, 27 December 19
Or maybe they had problems finishing the game on CPC?!?
That's not the problem at all. As Richard said, they just decided to try a new system.
Malasombra being briefly canceled due to legal reasons was one of the most bizarre moments we probably have seen on the spanish CPC Scene. 4MHz got indeed a cease & desist letter from an "international developer studio" who had at that point 4MHz's main programer as an adviser.So they mainly sent openly a letter to one of their colaborators instead of resolving whatever problem it was on private.
Funny enough they failed up to today to provide the CPC port of their Nogalious game as it was promised in their Kickstarter (june 2018!) and they stoped any comunication since june this year, so we almost said goodbye to Malasombra (yes, i know, many of you said Goodbye since the project moved to the NES) for nothing.
Yeah, that Kickstarter looks more and more like a disaster...?
Quote from: Dubliner on 22:18, 28 December 19.
...So they mainly sent openly a letter to one of their colaborators instead of resolving whatever problem it was on private.
What a Kindergarten, sorry, that's sooo unprofessional. Sadly some hobbies seem to turn old men into school boys again. Therefore the 'legal issue' seems crazy to me. Of course it can be an 'excuse' for private problems.
However, if some company boycotts the CPC for NES, then we shall boycott them too and make that public.
EDIT: Out of curiosity... Does somebody have a working copy of the game anyway?
https://youtu.be/38D2IIxrS1o
Really nice! My copy is at the post office...